Eurosport - Wed, 01 Jul 09:25:00 2009
Since his comeback in January Lance Armstrong has looked a shadow of the man who posted a record seven consecutive Tour victories and he seems unlikely to match his awe-inspiring prime on the roads of France this year.
The 37-year-old American, who returned to competitive cycling with Astana three-and-a-half years after retiring, has appeared more human on the bike and could benefit from this to win the hearts of the French fans.
The ultimate winning machine in his heyday, Armstrong has had a strained relationship with the country of his greatest triumphs.
"I hope he will not be there. Is he afraid of France? Nobody forced him to come, he only has to stay at home. He cannot win the Tour. I hope (Alberto) Contador gives him a beating," Frenchman and five-times Tour winner Bernard Hinault was quoted as saying by Le Parisien last month.
Armstrong, who fought testicular cancer before dominating the Tour from 1999 to 2005, has had more lows than highs since returning to racing in January at the Tour Down Under.
Having never been sidelined with a crash-related injury before 2005, the Texan came off his bike three times in a few months, most notably during the first stage of March's Tour of Castilla y Leon, when he broke his collarbone.
Armstrong recovered in time to take part in his first Giro d'Italia in May where he was targeting a stage win.
He failed in that but managed a creditable 12th place overall, although his 53rd in the Giro's final time trial showed the American was not ready to hammer the competition as he used to.
Instead, Armstrong had to be content with victory at the unheralded Nevada City Classic last month for his first professional win since his comeback.
Things have changed since Armstrong's last appearance in the Tour four years ago and he will not lead his team, instead working for Spaniard Alberto Contador, the 2007 winner and favourite for the title.
However, Armstrong is confident he can again do well in the Tour, which starts on Saturday in Monaco.
"In 2001, 2004 and 2005, when I came I was sure I would win," he told French radio station Europe 1.
"I don't have the same confidence now but I am about as fit as in 2003, when it was a very tight Tour. Let's say I have a three-to-one chance to win."
Italian rider Ivan Basso is convinced the American can pull off a surprise.
"He will ride the Tour like no one else because he has the experience of seven Tour de France wins," he said. "He will go like a beast."
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When Arstrong quipped he thought he had a one in three chance of winning, I think he was being illustrative (ie less then evens!). Reading some of these postings is like getting inside the mind of Will Hunting.............do you know how easy this is for me???!!!
(oops, quite right jeffrwebb, I mean Armstrong rates a win as 25% likely - "3 to 1 chance" is 1 in 4 probability which is 25%).
It's interesting that Armstrong says he's about as fit as in 2003. Armstrong and Bruyneel will have paid close attention to how his current power output, VO2, lactate threshold etc. compares with historic data from 2001 onwards. There's little else to benchmark with.
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So, assuming we'll be seeing a "2003 version of Lance" (c.6th in the prologue) and assuming the best rivals are at or slightly above Ullrich and Vinokourov standard, then we can see how Armstrong rates a 33% chance.
Actually Hinault is a Breton. Bretons do not have a reputation for being snooty, arrogant or rude - that is usually reserved for Parisiens and other French tourist hotspots. Hinault comes from simple farming stock and speaks his mind. Sad thing is, much of what he says is rather negative, although this doesn't make it untrue. Yes he's a bit of a dinosaur, but everyone is entitled to an opinion? As a multiple Giro, TdF, Vuelta, one-day monument winner - surely he's earned it? You don't have to agree with him.
3 to 1 odds is not the same as a one in three chance. It's a one in four chance.
@ revo user: Of course they let Hinault on stage, it's the French! Typical Frenchman, snooty, arrogant, and downright rude. But I'm sure as someone got in his face, he'd turn tail and run, just like the French!
Floyd Landis-- hope you are training hard so we can talk about your odds of winning the TDF next year. First your odds on Leadville.
2 points actually...1) LA won the TDF 7 times. If Hinault, Merkcx, Indurain or even LeMond decided to return to racing when they were 38 they would have raised a huge stir as well. Cycling needs the big names to keep it alive OR a good rivalry which I really think cycling needs more than one big name. When will the next big duel between GC contenders will occur ?? 2007 was great but nothing came of the competition for the next edition. I think the sport really needs 2 (or more) big riders to compete against each other for multiple years to capture the publics attention and deflect all the doping BS. Schleck Vs Gesink Vs Contador or something similar where they can shadow box all year and get down to it during the TDF and slug it out. Races like this years could lead to that I hope if all the old guys would bail and let the young guys suck up the publicity.
Why does cycling not need Lance Armstrong? So it doesnt need twice the funds, publicity, support, not to mention the outstanding results achieved by LA during his time competing. And of course this year, with raising the awareness of his cancer charity, lives may be saved. It is the press and the critics that keep using Lance's name in every article they write. All they want is to sell more papers, all LA wants is to keep cycling.
Even almost at 38 Armstrong will show who's the Boss. The motivation is completely different for the Tour de France in comparison to the other racings.
Hinault's comments are shameful. TDF organizers better not let that jerk be on any podium after each stage. The fact is, the TDF should be thanking Armstrong, because the TDF ratings in the US would be dismal were it not for Armstrong's participation.
It ought to be a great race -- the course is brutal. I don't think it's a coincidence that the organizers made Mont Ventoux the penultimate stage, a place where Armstrong has never won. If Armstrong makes it onto the final podium in Paris I think it would be a great accomplishment.
Cycling does not need Lance Armstrong! I repeat, the Tour will be won by one of the past three Spanish TDF champions.
everytime i read about cycling is all about armstrong, he's not gonna win the tour and will never win any other tour for coming years,
the wildcard is this: the peloton made a lot more money when LA was part of it. look at all the sponsors who have bailed since then and add up the total funds going to the euro teams...way below what it was. therefore, LA is still the king of the peloton in that respect. how much press will the tour get this year in the US due to LA? tons...that equates to more money for all the riders. a bit of a conspiracy theory maybe, but we all know it's italian mafia run anyway haha.
Thank you, Ivan. Finally a quote from someone actually in the "know". And I am thinking the Tour odds makers should be giving you a serious look too.
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just heard now now charly Wegelius is going to the tour thomas dekker has been removed
So if you take 1 ex 7 time champion with a 1 in 3 chance of winning, add in 179 other top cyclists, 3 weeks of racing, (X)100 possible crashes, (X)1000 over zealous fans, motorbikes and cars, THEN factor in possible sickness, injury and loss of morale due to press and public comments....
I believe the is answer - 3 weeks of really cool racing.
Schools out for today...
Tomorrows lesson... Geography - Is the route 0.76 times better then last year??
Surely a domestique should have no chance of winning anyways as that is all Lance should be, unless Johann Brunyeel is telling porkies!!! If Contador is team leader and Levi Leipheimers performances mark him as team number 2, then Lance's job should be to protect them!!! Now I always loved Lance on the bike, his grit, determination and will to win aligned to remarkable physical endurance and the overiding battle against cancer marked him as someone special but that was then and his time has passed. If his motivation is to draw attention and raise funds for his charity then fair play, but it should not be at the expense of others or for any personal gratification!!! Therefore (imo) he should support his team-mates and although he will get plenty of attention and limelight, not put them in the shade!!! After all, considering his age, Contador could very well eclipse Armstrongs achievements!!!
Never mind this higher maths nonsense, who are the other three? I make it Menchov, Contador, Evans........oh thats one in four..........ohhhhh and Sastre of course..... and Schelck and the other Schleck............and Hinault
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