paul g had to wait four years to extend his title and­ add th word champions.fu kn t it!

I didn't think you were being anything other than­ genuine old pal. I was merely following up my original­ posting. I have read several of your posts and can­ clearly see you are a level headed football fan. All­ these claims of cheating are wearing thin. Every man­ among us can find justification for dubious acts when­ they benefit our club. To cry foul when it goes against­ us,is an act of hypocrisy and I will not be party to­ it.

sherbert d ..... I am sorry there is so much bile on­ these pages you have mistakely thought I was being­ sarcastic... PLease believe me I was genuinely­ complementing you and will do so again. Well posted­ sir!!!!!! I believe in getting tore in when I see­ nonsence being posted but I hope I have the ability to­ give credit where it is due, as in this case.

rarkless my point is simple, I have celebrated goals­ that have come from dubious decisions,so therefore I­ have to take it on the chin when those decisions appear­ to go against us. Wether the ref was right or wrong­ does not come into it.

sherbert d.... Your ability to to say maybe you were ­ wrong does you credit .Well posted sir.

ronbaird..................There was no bias towards any­ team in my reply to you. I stated what was obvious to­ any follower of the game. Arsenal were two up and in­ control of the game,the penalty, handy as it was, did­ not "determine" the result as you claimed.­ You appeared to me to be the one adopting a biased­ stance by using euphemisms for the McGeady incident and­ clear accusations regarding Eduardo. You claimed a­ third Hibs player was "steaming in to clatter­ him", thus tagging an illegal action on to the­ defenders intentions, when the boy clearly pulled out­ of the tackle showing in my opinion a determination to­ stay within the laws of the game. As to your question­ is Miller cheating if he goes down when nudged and he­ is at full speed, of course not that is a clear foul.­ If he goes down simulating then equally clearly he is­ cheating. The question of McGeady having nothing to­ gain is a red herring. The full back can be booked­ rendering his ability to make 50/50 tackles­ compromised, Celtic can pack the Hibs box and launch­ the resultant free kick the box with the possibility of­ a goal. Two advantages and I am sure you yourself could­ think of others. Remember Celtic scored against­ Motherwell from a corner that clearly should have been­ a bye kick and even more innocuously from a throw in,­ in a cup final, which should have gone to Rangers.­ Football is a dynamic game and every decision however­ trivial impacts on the next move and changes the­ course of the game forever. As for when players­ "START" to get red cards! that day is already­ here. I am happy with the strict application of the­ rules. We ask referees to be consistent and then moan­ when they are and our own team is affected. The common­ sense that a large number of fans call for translates­ into "Please ignore the rules when my favorites­ are concerned".

Paul get it up ye auld yin lol!!

I seen both incidents and have seen simillar incidents­ many times before. There are allways question marks­ surrounding the ethics of such acts. The fact is every­ team have suffered or gained an advantage through­ dubious decisions. It all balances out in the end. I­ thought at the time the ref got it wrong. I have seen­ nothing to change my mind,however if indeed it was a­ bad decision,then why are'nt the club appealling­ the decision? Perhaps there are no grounds for an­ appeal and I got it wrong.

LOL What a load of p.i.s.h. from caddis. Can nobody at­ ceptic admit he dived? There first to mention other­ teams are they not?

7. You really need to look up the words 'last'­ and 'man'.

Guys we have got to look at the way football is going.­ It doesnt matter which team you support, just look at­ No Tackling, No Dribbling and No fast interactions.­ When these occur players will be tackled and touched­ and will be brought down, this is football. Sometimes­ when someone like Kenny Miller is at full speed he­ recieves a nudge or the player about to tackle pulls­ out, but Kenny sometimes takes a fall. Is that­ cheating. Definitely NO. It is a football incident.­ There was no gain for McGeady to go down but there was­ for Eduardo and thats the difference, if you cannot see­ the difference, then when your players start to get red­ cards you will.
BTW, I used Kenny so you could not call­ me biased as he has played for both Old Firm teams in­ the last few years.

I'd like to point out that McGeady shouldve been­ sent off in the first half for bringing down Deek when­ he was the last man but never mind eh! Youknow I used­ to think Scottish officials were biased towards the old­ firm-theyre not theyre just f@**ing s@***e!!!

Don't get me wrong, I don't blame him, there­ was a lot of money and prestige at stake and everyone­ knew that a goal from Arsenal would end any chance of­ Celtic turning the tie around with a miracle. I guess I­ just expect that professionals, especially ones with­ talent like that, to take the upper ground.

Eduardo was going to dive no matter how close the­ keeper came. He wasn't "getting out of the­ way" in any fashion, the keeper was covering the­ face of goal, not coming after him to give him a­ bashing. Eduardo is such a good player there's no­ way he didn't know exactly what he was doing.­ Don't make excuses, just expect better.

ronbaird ...........you are deluding yourself if you­ think that the penalty determined the result of the­ game. It was the gulf in class between the two teams­ which determined the result. In the McGeady situation­ the third player was not "steaming in to clatter­ him", the player clearly pulled out of the tackle.­ He dived, perfectly simple. Why! who knows and who­ cares the diving is the offence not his motive. Some­ years ago a Celtic full back while standing in the­ penalty box with not an opponent within 10 yards of him­ inexplicably reached up and punched the ball. Should­ the ref. have asked him why he had done it before he­ gave a penalty? No the offence had been committed and­ that is an end of the matter. Finally those prima­ donna's you mentioned ,did they not win the World­ Cup and the European Nations Cup recently.

ronbaird. At the end of the day, mcgready dived, he­ wasnt touched and was trying to con the ref into giving­ celtic a free kick and getting the other guy­ booked....................so he should have recieved­ the yellow card for cheating end of story, im a rangers­ fan and when a rangers player takes a dive i admit he­ should be booked too (unless against a foreign team­ ha). Its the only way to stop the cheats ruining the­ game, the only thing i that is wrong is refereeing­ consistancy, ie chris killen should have been booked­ for diving and trying to get the last hibs defender­ sent off................................PS MON THE­ GERSSSSSSSSSSSS

Eduardo DIVED in the penalty box to gain a penalty. End­ of story.
McGeady went down out on the touchline after­ dribbling past 2 defenders who had two goes at him and­ a 3rd steaming in to clatter him. If you watch his left­ foot it came down at an angle and he went over. This­ was a football situation and did NOT mean he DIVED.
To­ gain WHAT, should be asked.
If that is cheating, then­ every centre half clattering a forward and vice versa­ will also be deemed cheating. In fact if you foul you­ are potentially cheating. We have to get back to the­ premise this was a football situation and Eduardo was­ gaining a penalty which determines the outcome of a­ game.
All football will be played in slippers soon­ unless you look at your own team and recognise when­ your players are either tugging, pulling, feigning­ injury and diving as all teams do, then start moaning­ at your own players and see where that gets­ you.
Football will be for the prima donna's like­ the french and the rest of us can get on with a real­ game.

And Eduardo getting out of the way of an impending­ clatter from the Celtic keeper is different how. Given­ the injury he suffered from a mistimed tackle last year­ how is he judged as a diver but McGeady is­ 'intellegent'. Last Wednesday's media­ frenzy is the cause of blowing things out of­ proportion. This happens every weekend, Rooney for­ example had booted the ball so far out of play before­ being clipped by Manuel Almunia and was still awarded a­ penalty for going down before any contact was made.­ Fair, consistent I don't think think so. A­ disgruntled Gooner!!!!