Talking point: Ferrari's greatest driver

Eurosport - Tue, 02 Dec 14:16:00 2008

Who is the greatest Ferrari driver of all time? Every week during the off-season Eurosport will offer a point of discussion for Formula One fans, in conjunction with our online poll. So let us know what you think.

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The shortlist:

Alberto Ascari

One of only two Italians to have won the drivers' championship (the other was inaugural Formula One champion Giuseppe Farina), Ascari was one of Formula One's true greats. After coming fifth and second for Ferrari in 1950 and 1951, he began 1952 with a retirement at the Indy 500, then part of the F1 calendar. Howeer, after that disappointment Ascari was unstoppable, and won the next six races to take the championship in style. Five wins out of eight the following year secured him consecutive titles before Fangio re-established his grip on the sport. Ascari was tragically killed a year later while testing for Ferrari, despite being a Lancia driver by then.

Juan Manuel Fangio

One of the great names in motorsport, Fangio is a Formula One legend, despite the fact he was in his 40s when the championship was first staged in 1950. The Argentine competed in 51 grands prix between 1950 and 1958, won 24 races and finished on the podium 35 times. In the process he won five drivers' championships and finished runner-up in another two. Yet most of his success came with other teams, notably Alfa Romeo, Maserati and Daimler Benz. Only in 1956 was Fangio a Ferrari driver, during which time he recorded three victories and two second places on his way to a fourth drivers' title.

Mike Hawthorn

Yorkshireman Hawthorn drove for Ferrari on and off throughout the 1950s, and with the Italian team never finished lower than fourth in the drivers' championship. His greatest season was his last, in 1958, when one victory, five second places and a third was enough to win the championship at the sixth time of asking.

Niki Lauda

The Austrian spent four seasons with Ferrari from 1974-77. He joined as an unproven driver and at a time when the team's glory days of the 1950s and 1960s had fizzled out into a title-less decade of underachievement. Lauda revitalised the team. During his time with Ferrari he won 14 races and registered 31 podium finishes, enough to win him the 1975 and 1977 titles. He also finished second in the 1976 championship, one point behind James Hunt, despite missing several races with injury. Bernie Ecclestone, then Brabham team boss, poached Lauda for the 1978 season by offering him a $1 million salary, and Lauda would never again race with the prancing horse on his car.

Kimi Raikkonen

The Finn arrived at Ferrari in 2007 having been one of a few drivers to run Schumacher close in his peak. Raikkonen lost the 2003 championship to the German by just two points. Yet after a flying start to the season with victory in Australia, the team struggled with reliability problems and Raikkonen was overshadowed by his McLaren rivals. Back-to-back victories in France and Britain got him back in the title race, and after winning three of the season's final four races Raikkonen did just enough to earn Ferrari their first championship since 2004.

Jody Scheckter

South African Schekter spent two years driving for Ferrari, and won the drivers' championship for them in 1979 before being plagued by problems in 1980 and retiring from the sport. He was the last man to win a title for the team for over two decades.

Michael Schumacher

What can you say about Michael Schumacher that hasn't already been said? The greatest driver of his era won titles in 1994 and 1995 with Benetton before moving to Ferrari, where he spent the remainder of his career. Despite having an inferior car, Schumacher also came close to winning the 1997 and 1998 titles. But when Ferrari's technology caught up with their rivals he was unstoppable. Five consecutive titles from 2000-2004 followed, making the German the most successful Formula One driver of all time. His finest hour is a toss-up between the 2002 season - 11 wins, five second places and a third - and the 2004 season, when he won 12 of the first 13 races of the season. Critics might point to a relative lack of competition when he was at the height of his powers, but the truth is that Schumacher had the strength of will and commitment to make great drivers look ordinary.

John Surtees

The only man to have won world championships on two wheels and four, Surtees moved to Ferrari three years after making the switch to Formula One. After a fourth-placed championship finish for the team in 1963, he had a stunning 1964 season in which he secured a podium place in every race he finished. The following season he remained with the team, but a crash robbed him of any championship aspirations.

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  1. N. Lauda is at the top of the list in my book. He­ dominated at a time when F1 was really in it’s golden­ age. It was a time when F1 was much more, dangerous and­ less reliant on driver aides such as traction control,­ while at the same time breaking new ground­ aerodynamically and with material compositions. Niki­ puts himself over the top by nearly winning his second­ consecutive WDC after nearly dying on the track in­ 1976, and missing only two races. J.M. Fangio and M.­ Schumacher take second and third place. Both of their­ accomplishments are nearly equal, considering they are­ at opposite ends of the spectrum.

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:17AM
  2. N. Lauda is at the top of the list in my book. He­ dominated at a time when F1 was really in it’s golden­ age. It was a time when F1 was much more, dangerous and­ less reliant on driver aides such as traction control,­ while at the same time breaking new ground­ aerodynamically and with material compositions. Niki­ puts himself over the top by nearly winning his second­ consecutive WDC after nearly dying on the track in­ 1976, and missing only two races. J.M. Fangio and M.­ Schumacher take second and third place. as Both of­ their accomplishments are nearly equal, considering­ they are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:16AM
  3. Both of their accomplishments are nearly equal,­ considering they are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:16AM
  4. J.M. Fangio and M. Schumacher take second and third­ place.

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:13AM
  5. Niki puts himself over the top by nearly winning his­ second consecutive WDC after nearly dying on the track­ in 1976, and missing only two races.

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:09AM
  6. It was a time when F1 was much more, dangerous and less­ reliant on driver aides such as traction control, while­ at the same time breaking new ground aerodynamically­ and with material

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:09AM
  7. He dominated at a time when F1 was really in it’s­ golden age.

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:08AM
  8. N. Lauda is at the top of the list in my book.

    From vinnydawg67, on Tue 2 Dec 8:08AM
  9. Let us not forget Three Time world champion Niki Lauda­ who, had it not been for a near death accident, would­ have won the 1976 world champioship. Niki won in­ 1975,1977, and 1984. He was a great driver and­ technician, maybe the best technical driver of all­ time. Remember also, Lauda raced when the engine was­ right on the drivers back and no real safety to think­ of. Today's drivers are able to pushe harder­ because they know they will not be killed in a race­ (remember Kubica in Canada).
    To face facts Schumacher­ has to ranked #1, but to rank Lauda anything less than­ #2 in an outrage!!

    From Daniel S, on Tue 2 Dec 6:33AM
  10. It is a shame that Gilles Villeneuve is not in the­ list.
    Schumacher is probably the best because without­ superior machinery, he could win 3 champinships. With­ superior machinery, he blew everybody away.
    The rule­ changes were to slow down Schumi. History speaks for­ itself

    From Can A, on Tue 2 Dec 6:31AM
  11. No doubt Schumi!!!!

    From Wellversed, on Tue 2 Dec 5:52AM
  12. My greatest Ferrari drivers of all time are my­ childhood hero Alberto Ascari followed by Gilles­ Villeneuve and Michael Schumacher. Alberto Ascari is­ the only Italian to be champion for Ferrari and being­ Italian I couldn't ask for anything more. Ascari­ beat Fangio and that takes some doing. His death was­ tragic. Gilles is on my list for sheer excitement. The­ way he drove the car, it would make today's elite­ look like amateurs on trolleys. Schumi is there for­ obvious reasons(most titles, most wins, most podiums,­ most points, the usual stuff)

    From max_angelos, on Tue 2 Dec 5:27AM
  13. Fernando is an amazing driver and in the future he will­ be on this short list- possibly even at the top of it.

    From andrew_slezak_coz, on Tue 2 Dec 3:53AM
  14. Fangio was probably the best race driver, period, in­ any car. Plus, he began his F1 successes when in his­ 40's; in the last 20 years or so, if any driver is­ in his late 30's it's usually time for the glue­ factory or dog food factory for most or all in F1.­ Fangio raced when the driver had to be his own­ mechanic, changed his own tires, etc., no pit stop­ strategy BS and this was during races like LeMans and­ the Carrera Panamerica. You think Schumacher or any­ other contemporary driver would ruin their manicure or­ their Nomex? Also, you screw up Fangio's time, you­ were dead. Cojones gave you victory, not traction­ control.

    Lauda- 4 seasons,1974-1977, with the­ Scuderia, 2 World Championships and 1 2nd place? He­ began with them when they weren't very good, and­ helped revitalized them (sound familiar?) That's a­ hell of a lot more impressive than anything Scumacher­ did. Especially when you consider this: He got the 2nd­ place in 1976 because after dominating the first half­ of the 1976 season, he had a very had a very nasty­ wreck at the Nurburgring, was severely burned to the­ point of being given last rights, and after a stay in­ the hospital the man came back after 2 weeks and only­ missing 2 races, and finished second by one point to­ James Hunt. That's the stuff of a great driver,­ even if you don't consider another World­ Championship in 1984 with Alain Prost as your teammate,­ not to shabby himself, at McLaren.

    Ascari is easily in­ my top 3, especially if you consider he competed­ against Fangio.

    That's one thing I always hate­ about these polls; most of the people who participate­ have no historical memory beyond 5 or 10 years, so­ results are always skewed in that direction.

    From 917/30, on Tue 2 Dec 12:39AM
  15. I sorry my Marnio he make trouble there.

    Although­ Marnio he seem grown, he has the sickness of the head­ and inside is just little boy, sometimes he has the­ accident in his bed.

    Marnio he has no freinds so he­ invent his own and often make up stories. If Marnio he­ make you angry please ignore him and he will go away.

    From mrs.bolan, on Tue 2 Dec 12:34AM
  16. Without a doubt its Schumacher. Before him, Ferrari was­ at a low point, not having a championship since the­ 80's, then he comes and wins five.

    From Scott, on Tue 2 Dec 12:30AM
  17. Schuey was simply sublime!! His driving was unmatched!

    From hondasales, on Tue 2 Dec 12:01AM
  18. If you want the best gentleman to ever drive a Ferrari,­ that would be Phil Hill. True sportsman.

    From Patrick, on Mon 1 Dec 11:56PM
  19. marnio from peru, and JAIME A, so you think Schumacher­ is the best, well if you think someone who cheats,­ there away to the top, is the best, then so be it,­ whatever floats your boat.

    From paul t, on Mon 1 Dec 11:44PM
  20. Schumacher is the greatest ever, against facts there is­ no arguments.!!
    The Records speak for themselves.!!

    From JAIME, on Mon 1 Dec 11:29PM
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