Eurosport - Tue, 24 Nov 12:53:00 2009
Liverpool could be out of the Champions League tonight and as the pressure mounts on Rafael Benitez, we ask is it time for a managerial change at Anfield?
There is little room for emotion in football as Benitez showed when he discarded Champions League final heroes Jerzy Dudek, Vladimir Smicer and Igor Biscan immediately after the dramatic 2005 penalty win over Milan in Istanbul.
Fans will stick by Rafa through thick and thin due to the fact he brought the European Cup back to Anfield in his first season, but his stubborn refusal to adapt means he has so far failed to bring the league title back to Merseyside.
Benitez is a top coach, of that there is no doubt. But - as regular viewers of Liga games that do not involve Barcelona and Real Madrid will testify - his conservative attitude does not wash with the rough-and-tumble of English football.
To win the Premier League, you have to attack, to try to win games against any opposition. Playing for a point, shutting up shop by taking off Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard or - as seen last weekend - Yossi Benayoun when playing top-half rivals at Anfield is simply not good enough.
Of course defending is paramount, but as Manchester United in particular have shown in recent years it is a foundation, not the be all and end all.
And, this season, Benitez's side cannot even do that.
Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel are decent players but not Liverpool class. Plus they are frighteningly injury prone. The normally dependable Jamie Carragher appears to have lost all confidence in his team-mates, and himself. And at full-back, Fabio Aurelio is lightweight and Emiliano Insua nothing more than a prospect.
Benitez has had an age to sort this out. Prior incumbents Steve Finnan and John Arne Riise were begging to be upgraded, yet - and this holds true all over the park - Benitez does not seem to know what is required for the Premier League.
Players such as Philipp Degen,
Time and time again, multi-million pound signings have come and gone.
Jermaine Pennant, Alvaro Arbeloa, Gabriel Paletta, Jan Kronkamp, Josemi, Antonio Nunez - the list goes on, a mixture of players meant to hold down first-team places or fill out the squad and they all had one thing in common all dross.
Benitez constantly bemoans injuries but he constantly selects players who are not physically up to the demands of the Premier League. There are concerns that Alberto Aquilani, Albert Riera and (whisper it) Torres may fall into this category.
And what of the players he has let go, treated with little more than disdain but who clearly could have done a better job than the likes of David N'Gog, Andriy Voronin and the aforementioned Insua? The likes of Peter Crouch, Robbie Keane, Craig Bellamy and Stephen Warnock, who are clearly better than what turned out for the 2-2 draw with Manchester City? All tossed aside, ignored at times by a manager who apparently rarely talks to his players.
Had he taken Xabi Alonso under his wing after bizarrely trying to flog the world-class Spain midfielder to fund a move for the quite good Gareth Barry, he may have been able to convince him to stay, or even gauge his intent to leave and prepare what would have been a cut-price move for the England international.
But he did not, pretending nothing happened in his now typical, borderline sociopathic manner. Meanwhile, he rucked with the club's owners, who admittedly tightened the purse strings - although who can blame them given how much trash he has bought and cast adrift in the last five years?
And do not get started on his rant against referees and Manchester United last season, piling needless pressure on his players and writing Sir Alex Ferguson's team-talks for him as Liverpool capitulated from a position of strength.
This leads to the final, crucial point. Benitez wants to control everything: training, scouting, youth development, financial affairs. And yet his man-management skills seem worryingly weak when the ability to get the best out of players, to harness egos, reward endeavour, play the dreaded mind-games and deal with cash-conscious business executives are regarded as the most important tools in modern club management.
Coaching is left to the coaches, but Benitez also dispensed with assistant Pako Ayestaran - who did much of the work behind the scenes - after a minor disagreement.
The former Valencia boss seems, alas, to fall well short of Ferguson, Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho when it comes to the art of managing.
Fan view: Reds divided
LFC_SOFA_SUPPORTER: Are things so bad at Liverpool football club. We've got Alberto Aqualini who can play in five positions in midfield and could be a better player than Xabi Alonso. Yossi Benayoun is a good player who can play on the wing or in midfield and Albert Reira isn't too bad although we could get a better player if need be. Glen Johnson can only get better and better, as can Martin Skrtel while Daniel Agger is very good. We're strengthening bit by bit. Chelsea were a mid-table side until Roman Abramovich came along. Liverpool have always been in the top 10. So yes Abramovich bought Chelsea's successes, much like Man City's improvement with the Arabs. If LFC had the monies of Man City or Chelsea no doubt we'd have won the league by now.
Kopalot79: I'd still take Martin O'Neil or Martin Jol over Rafa all day long. Both are quality managers who players respect. I mean who'd fight Jol?
Kuen is angry that big signing Alberto Aquilani still is not trusted to make an impact when Liverpool need a win: He was on the bench? Why didn't Rafa use him? I have no idea. We paid £20 million for the man, not just to warm the bench. If he is good enough to be on the bench, why not give him the 10 minutes, instead of Aurelio? Rafa, you are unbelievable.
The alternatives:
Jose Mourinho (2/1) - the smooth-talking Portuguese has won consecutive titles at Inter but, frustrated by the relatively weaker domestic competition and the demanding Italian media, has struggled continentally and hankers after a return to his beloved England.
Kenny Dalglish (3/1) - the former Anfield boss is second favourite despite being out of management for nine years since leaving Celtic after one disastrous season. The Scotsman, who managed the Reds with some success in the early 1990s, is a Liverpool legend and is currently running their International development and scouting division.
Roberto Mancini (5/1) - the man Mourinho replaced at Inter is a more sensible option as he won titles with the Milan club and has a grasp of the English language picked up while at Leicester.
Guus Hiddink (12/1) - the thinking-fan's choice: a tough disciplinarian who is happy to work with limited resources and has a proven track-record of quick success. Players love and fear him, he gets results and he adapts like a chameleon. The only surprise is that, after Russia's failure to qualify for the World Cup, he is not heading the list.
Juergen Klinsmann (12/1) - an ill-fated spell as Bayern Munich coach and primarily a motivator with no real experience of field coaching or budget management, he would only really be able to work with an experienced director of football. Dalglish, perhaps?
Oswaldo de Oliveira (14/1) - the Kashima Antlers' Brazilian coach has never managed in Europe. Chelsea made a similar mistake with Luiz Felipe Scolari, so do not expect Liverpool to follow suit.
Martin O'Neill (16/1) - many Reds fans would love an Irishman in charge and O'Neill has proved himself adept at over-achieving with Leicester, Celtic and now Aston Villa. He has Premier League pedigree, has taken a team to a European final and is loved by both supporters and the press. A mini Mourinho, if you will.
Manuel Pellegrini (20/1) - the Real Madrid boss could soon be fired in the insane world of Spanish football if they lose the Clasico against Barcelona, even though Real are top of La Liga. The Chilean worked wonders with Villarreal, will be able to manage the Hispanic contingent, plays attacking football and - crucially - speaks pretty good English for someone who has worked only in Spanish-speaking countries.
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Christmas is coming,
Rooney's Getting Fat,
Rafael's a Ladyboy and Neville is a t.w.a.t
Rio is a crackhead, his nostrills getting bigger.
Berbatov's a useless C.u.n.t and Nani Is a Ni.gg3r!!!!!!!
I LOVE 'IM
THAT MAN IS A TACTICAL GENIUS.................BRINGING ON AQUILANI WITH 30 SECS TO GO , WHAT A MASTER STROKE !
FOREVER IN UNITEDS SHADOW
C last comment thank you.You have said it all
I do not agree with some of the things he said. The decent players that he mentioned all cost under 10mil. you can't be expecting world class players for that price. look at MU, Anderson(15mil)& Nani(15mil) they cost more but are they exactly world class?? the players that Rafa spent more than 10mil on like Alonso,Masch,Torres, are world class. Rafa play with one striker, so when you have Torres where do you think you find a place for Bellamy & Crouch. They are good players and not willing to sit on the bench, so Rafa is right to let them go & get someone young & willing to wait for their chance. As for Keane, well Rafa said it before it didn't work. Warnock, seriously i'll have Aurelio or Insua anyday. Rafa have money to spend but he needs to spend on a few to build the depth of the squad. He just doesn't have the luxury to spend 30mil on a player like MU. Well at least Rick Parry woudln't allow him to at that time.
Mancini is overrated, the only top italian coach who is actually mediocre. Still an italian coach would probably be the best choice, as proved by Capello, Ancelotti and Trappatoni (poor guy). Liverpool might want to consider Cagliari's Allegri, Giampaolo (free) and Zenga (free), but the best option is Luciano Spalletti also currently a free agent who led AS Roma to their best period in history with relatively meagre resources and hardly any money to spend on transfers. Ideal for Liverpool.
Am a Mighty Red fan and will always be and though I will want to give Rafa a chance,can someone explain to me why Bena haven came in as a substitute against ManC and equalised for us and was immediately being substituted could only make 15mins or so yesterday.I thought Rafa did that on Saturday so that he can play 90mins lastnite.Why is Lucas playing 90minutes in nearly all matches and Bena never despite Bena having 4goals for us and Lucas none
starman123 you are an idiot. Torress won Euro2008.
Oh, yes; like never before........
Keeping the fat boy is now costing LFC millions!
it is better for rafa to go rather than sacked by the club.. it will be a very embarrased way of losing a job.. hahahahahaha... goodbye to u rafa...
Come on...Let Rafa have a chance...Give him finish this season...He deserve it...At least he manage to beat Man Utd 3 time in BPL...FOR GOD SAKE 3 TIME!!! I'm sure he will turn the bad into the good...
P/S: Last for all...MANCHESTER UNITED will always be the better team in the world...Hehehe...
I don't think it's possible to get Alonso back, he just moved. But it's will be better and about time to change current manager before situation get even worst than it's already is. Hiddink will-be a perfect man to replace useless Rafa.
get alonso back man
Although Torres is a good player (when fit) but you have to ask: what has he accomplished in his career? As a teenager at ATM great things were expected of him, but what has he accomplished? NOTHING. If Benitez has made a mistake then the mistake was getting Torres (how much did he cost?). Liverpool traditionally get players that are solid, hardworking, reliable, above average, follow game plans and are NOT injury prone, that DO NOT make mistakes and DO NOT cost several Millions. It was a mistake getting rid of Keane, maybe he did not score goals while at Liverpool BUT YOU WERE WINNING, that is more important. I am SO GLAD that Liverpool are not the team they were, I hope they go further into mediocrity. YNWA = You Will Never @#$% Alone
PLEASE KEEP Benitez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liverpool doing well was always based around a solid defence that gave the midfield and forwards the confidence to attack, attack, attack.
At the moment, the defence is so bad, you could drive tanks 4 abreast through it. The number of goals from set pieces in particular is beyond belief when you compare with the teams of the 70s and 80s.
Carragher is past his sell by date, resorting to fouls more and more often, and acts the innocent when he gets pulled up.
There does need a change of management as Rafa seems devoid of any ideas.
rafa benitez your time is up, you can take your rubbish signings like lucas, dosenna, voronin with you adios
No not yet, they are still in the Premiership, wait til they go down first.
What a load of tosh, you should do some research before committing words to print.
Kenny Dalglish only recently started in his current role with the club (within the last year).
You could try and blame him for some of the poorer signings that have been made since R.B. joined the club but you would look like a complete idiot... wait... too late...
i think rafa is a good manager even tho he is going through a rough patch. he has a better record that alex ferguson so far
i think rafa is a good manager even tho he is going through a rough patch. he has a better record that alex ferguson so far
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