KENNY HOW WRONG YOU ARE........i dont know where to­ start, how about this, shut up you piss ed and listen­ the EPN is the best league in the world for exitement­ my heart pounds when i go to watch sunderland so shut­ up and watch some boring scottish football or some­ hyped up spanish play boy football RED AND WHITE­ ARMY
ROAD TO EUROPE

aww! c'mon! i live in england (mores the pity), and­ the english premier league is nothing but over-hyped­ @#$%,full of over-paid people from players right down­ to the imbecilic and ludicrously jingoistic­ commentators,they were crowing non -stop last season­ about how they had so mant teams in the champions­ league and how it would be an all english final,bur i­ reckon they must have forgot about the team from the­ far superior spanish league. it was so satisfying to­ watch barcelona completely dismantle pathetic­ manchester united. lol!

who are these fickle nobody's who slag Scottish­ Football? yes we're going through a bad period, but­ every dog has his day, i think it's good that this­ has happened, we need changes in our domestic game to­ compete these days in Europe, no longer should we use­ terms like "110%" and "ball winner"­ every footballer should give 110% without saying, and­ every footballer should be able to win the ball, the­ operative word here is "footballer" i dont­ want to pay to watch a "110% ball winner" i­ want to watch football.

Not an Aberdeen supporter (actually a rugby supporter)­ BUT find in crazy that the team in the supposed Oil­ capital of the North and also with supposedly a­ Millionaire as Chairman they cannot sign players­ because they cant compete with wages on offer in the­ 3rd tier of fitba in England.

yes I appreciate Setanta­ crashed but come on

21 - Nah mate, you got that wrong, that's rangers.

#16 I am Dons fan and I think you are being generous.­ The Old Firm would be lucky to survive in the EPL but­ might do it with the always sold out games and what­ would be the 4th or 5th highest attendances and­ gauranteed TV revenue stream. They would however­ quickly climb to the top tier because of that and that­ a great many exiled Scots like myself would follow one­ or the other down here. THEN Scots football would be­ competitive again. Why would the chairman/owner of any­ Scottish team spend money - for 3rd? a cup run? and I­ wouldn't have to get the slagging that awaits­ me.

But it will never happen who would vote the old­ firm in? top 4 would add to their competition in a few­ years the others would have more chance of going down­ and staying down.

Scottish football IS in a sorry­ state and Fergie's return wouldn't save us.

We may have been well thumped by the czechs however­ this may force the board into giving the manager some­ money so it could turnout to be a good thing in the­ longterm scheme of things.As for the abuse the team is­ getting on this msg board this is more than likely old­ firm fans gloating at our demise however given the­ wages that the bigot brothers can pay for the better­ players is anyone surprised at the standard of player­ that Aberdeen and the like can attract.Remember Dons­ fans we can look forward to our tue and wed nights­ watching these tarts being humped almost every game by­ some REAL big teams.

@ Rico

I am from Scotland and I like the SPL, I­ support Kilmarnock so have no real bias towards either­ of the old firm. Whilst I agree that initially Rangers­ and Celtic would be mid-table and once the TV money etc­ rolls in then they would be right up challenging the­ big boys.
All that is missing from Scottish football is­ a little bit of money. Take Gretna for example, they­ get a wealthy buyer and in a few seasons progress from­ the Third Division to the SPL and taking a trip to­ Hampden for the Scottish Cup Final in the process. Yes­ they did go bust and yes the competition in Scotland­ isnt great. But it does show that a little bit of money­ can completely change a team.
I think that if the Old­ Firm did leave the SPL to go to the EPL Scottish­ football would initially suffer. But with the fans­ great support it would climb back up to a similar­ position it is now. Wales and Ireland, yes have­ absolutely terrible leagues but the Irish like the­ Scottish game, and the Welsh have no option but the­ English. The point I'm trying to make is that­ without the Old Firm, teams like Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs­ and Dundee United will be able to regularly get into­ the european spots allocated to Scotland. Which if we­ did lose the OF would drop to maybe 3. One Champions­ League qualifying stage, and two Europa League spots.­ From that those teams would gain solid money.
I also­ think that the SPL would still get a TV deal. It would­ not match the one we have or have had but it would­ still create the income needed for these teams to­ survive.
The SPL's players are not top quality but­ I would say of the standard of the Championshipa down.­ One Stevie Naismith of Rangers had a trial with Arsenal­ before he eventually signed for Rangers from­ Kilmarnock. Wigan new boy James McCarthy was scouted by­ both Chelsea and Liverpool whilst he was playing in­ Scottish Division 1.
The SPL would survive but may not­ be as good as it is just now but it would certainly­ have the fans and financial suppo

Rico, superb. Spot on, u r right about where things­ fit. I'd say WHY??!! Not many years ago we were a­ team in the third tier of the English league. We­ escaped by a mere whisker and avoided becoming Leeds­ (or worse Newcastle). We're playing your mates­ Celtic this weekend in a doomed attempt to gel as a­ group of overpaid millionaires. At least we're not­ Newcastle, don't think our owner's gonna be in­ the stands swiggin broon = Chav owner, chav results.­ Come on Aberdeen get some confidence. Blue Moon.

I LIVE IN SCOTLAND AND WHAT AN EMBARRISED ABERDEEN AND­ MOTHERWELL HAVE BEEN................. IM A SEASONTICKET­ HOLDER AT OLD TRAFFORD AND ABERDEEN LIVE ON WHAT SIR­ FERGIE DID FOR THEM LET ME TELL YOU EVEN A 14 TIER­ TEAM WOULD BEAT ABERDEEN THIRD TOP TEAM THIS SEASON­ YOUR HAVING A LAUGH WHY DO SO MANY TEAMS GO FOR EX­ PLAYERS TO BE MANAGER IM ASHAMED TO SAY I SUPPORT­ DUNDEE UNITED SCOTTISH FOOTBALL IS IN DECLINE WILL GO­ DOWN QUICKER THAN THE TITANIC

Stop rating down all the anti-SPL comments, the best­ sides from the SPL (Celtic and Rangers would initially­ fit in the 3rd tier of the EPL:

Tier 1: ("The Big­ Four")- Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal
2:­ ("The Best of the Rest")- Everton, Man City,­ Aston Villa, Tottenham
3: (Midtable)- Fulham,­ Sunderland, Wigan, West Ham (RANGERS, CELTIC)
4: (The­ relegation candidates)- everyone else

Eventually their­ high and passionate support may get one of them into­ the UCL.

The point however is that minus the Old Firm,­ the best the SPL offers is teams like Aberdeen. No­ disrespect, they are a good club with good tradition­ but are not world beaters and would either be epl­ relegation fodder or Fizzy Pop Championship play off­ hopefuls at best. If the old firm ledt, scottish­ football would be relegated to the levels of welsh and­ irish leagues, no tv interest, no teams in the UCL,­ nobody outside the country would give two haggises­ about it.

Good players, well managed, make good­ teams. Look at the Celtic and Rangers management and­ playing staff. A couple of examples- Gordon Strachan,­ good manager of my hometown saints but that is about as­ high as he could realistically go un epl, pedro mendes­ one of rangers better players yet surplus to­ requirements at spurs, none of the big teams in england­ buy any players from spl and if even average/poor teams­ such as wolves show an interest, players will even­ leave rangers and celtic to join, nuff said

Now­ instead of marking me down SPL fans, argue that im­ wrong- does this result not demonstrate what most fans­ have known for ages: only two teams are any good in the­ SPL and even they would struggle to hold their own­ against the top 8 in the EPL.

Cheers

av an idea bay city rollers in defence_mcgee and jimmy­ in midfield.
with robbie coltrane in attack-lol

IT'S A BRAW BRICHT MOONLICHT NICHT....
PASS THE­ METHS, JIMMY.........

Aberdeen and falkirk will be relegation fodder this­ year with falkirk shading it.

Sinki7, sad but true! "No money, no honey"­ (or silverware).

what do you expect,McGhee`s got even less to work with­ than
what Jimmy had !! if they want to be a force in­ scottish football
again the board has to invest and­ give McGhee some money to buy
some proper­ players........

Marion stick to cooking, cleaning and eating the­ biscuits you fat ugly bint

see you czech mate

we (celtic) got humped 5-0 from an unknown bratislava -­ strachans first reign. so hopefully mcghee will finally­ clear the dead wood. he knows the game...thats­ garaunteed!!!