Championship - Ipswich charging more than Man Utd

Catherine,

Are you saying that the ordinance survey­ map dated pre 1945 is wrong? The one that says the­ North Road Stadium (carrying the grid reference which­ is now Northumberland Rd) is located in Clayton? Is­ that what you're saying Catherine? Maybe an­ ordinance survey bod took exception to what you were­ saying? Or maybe, just maybe, people read you're­ comments, read mine (which contained evidence and­ it's sources) and figured it's you who­ don't know what you are talking about and gave you­ the old "thumbs down".

Is that what­ you're saying Catherine? Or is it just that when­ things don't go your way you blame somebody else:­ 4th official, referee, the kit, Yahoo. Wonder where­ you learn't that "tactic" from. Oh­ yeah, just remembered, you're a United fan.

What­ was that you said "looks like someone can't­ handle the truth".

Truest thing you've said­ on here.

Why have all of my posts been removed? Looks like­ someone can't handle the truth and has reported­ them.

To summarise: Simon B doesn't know what­ he's talking about.

IPSWICH FKING @#$% HOLE HOW CAN U PUT SO HEAVY PRICESE­ when u suck so much worser than Lee BAMFIELD

Jay said "I find it interesting that an article­ about Ipswich­ ends up bringing out the ABU­ brigade". Sorry to burst your bubble Jay but the­ article's title says it all:

Championship -­ Ipswich charging more than Man Utd.

Does the delusion­ of united fans know no end?

Catherine,

"the only people even slightly­ bothered­ about the local geography and governmental­ boundaries­ are City fans"

Actually not true. ­ My original point was made in reference to United fans­ complaining about other fans constant references to the­ geography of United fans. I was merely highlighting­ the reasons why these fans did this. Most other­ non-manc football fans I know are very cynical about­ United because of their geographical schizophrenia. ­ Remember the furore over MK Dons? English football­ fans have traditionally been brought up to support the­ team from their own town (there are always exceptions­ of course), and where there are (as is often the case)­ two town teams this would encourage an inner city­ rivalry. United bucked the trend.

Also please­ don't kid yourself with the Town Parish argument. ­ The town Parish is synonymous with Greater Manchester­ today. The Borough of Manchester was pretty well­ established by 1904, Old Trafford was built in 1910. ­ Stretford was NOT in the borough of Manchester and­ therefore was NOT part of the City of Manchester.

The­ facts are United moved to Stretford to take advantage­ of the new ship canal, and it's associated business­ links. It was a business deal, pure and simple. ­ Moving out of the City's boundaries probably suited­ the owners who didn't want to have local­ councillors medling in their business. Man City of­ course embrace such medling (although directors refer­ to it as co-operation).

Bertalan, I understand where you are coming from,­ because footballers are overpaid and most of them are­ what you say they are. But, Rugby League isn't what­ you need to watch. Now, RUGBY UNION is a man's­ game.

Kevin they are over paid the teams are all in debt­ because they are paying out more than they bring in­ football is not generating what it pays out.

Catherine,

I guess you didn't check the link I­ told you about. If you did could I ask you to follow­ your own instructions and read again. Unfortunately I­ can't paste the link so I'll try and explain as­ best I can:

The North Road stadium is described as­ follows:

"North Road was a football stadium and­ cricket field in Newton Heath, Manchester, England. It­ was the first home of Manchester United Football Club –­ then known as Newton Heath Lancashire & Yorkshire­ Railway Football Club – from its foundation in 1878­ until 1893, when the club moved to a new ground at Bank­ Street, Clayton".

Now you would be forgiven for­ thinking the reference to Newton Heath has made your­ point. Unfortunately boundary changes combined with­ the desire to describe things in reference to their­ more recent boundary leads to people assuming the­ ground was always located in Newton Heath. To get the­ true picture you need to click on the file picture,­ which was from pre 1945, before boundary changes were­ made.

The file picture, from an ordanance survey map­ has the following description:

"English: A­ section of a pre-1945 Ordnance Survey map centred on­ the location of North Road stadium, Clayton, Greater­ Manchester"

This section of map and it's­ description has the co-ordinates:­ 53°30′13″N­ 2°11′56″W. Punch those­ co-ordinates into Google maps and you will indeed get­ the modern day Northampton Road. In other words I am­ NOT talking about the North Road that currently resides­ in Clayton. AFAIK there never was any form of stadium­ located near that North road, just a school.

You can­ argue the point all you want, I don't think­ ordinance survey maps are ever wrong (or indeed it­ would be very very rare), and I know in this instance­ it is correct. The reason the team was called ­ Newton Heath Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway­ Football Club was because the players all worked for­ the railway depot whi

I would rather go picnicing in the woods with Raoul­ Moat than pay that!!!!!!!!

if there is one thing the new season is guaranteed to­ do, its start a load of petty online arguments. kepp up­ the good work people, its more entertaining than the­ actual footy most of the time. i just wish the spammers­ would fcuk off.

i wish i was a wigan fan

Once again the new football season is upon us and the­ morons are already surfacing to voice the same old­ boring....... boring issues over and over again. The­ recent world cup fiasco perhaps is a good indication of­ the direction football is going......hopefully down the­ pan! Overpaid, overvalued, role models my proverbial­ bottom (i'm being polite, i could have said my @#$%­ or even my arse but i refrained from doing so) skivers,­ divers, theatrical amateurs, whining, moaning, whinging­ bunch of so called proffessionals! As for Walkers­ Crisps, Hansen & the rest of the BBC pundits,­ we'll have heard it all before so, so many times.­ No doubt they are busy rehearsing the 'strength and­ depth' of their vocabulary over a packet or two for­ yet another ...yawn.....still yawning season ahead. I­ suppose there's one good thing to come out of it­ Hansen won't have any reason to go shopping at­ 'Morereasons' any more. Not that he did anyway,­ he's a Tesco man so I hear! Then again you­ can't always believe what Lee Dixon says! The­ animal kindom has probably got it just about right by­ hibernating in the winter thereby missing out on all­ that entertainment....yawn...yawn.....yawn! Perhaps­ they dream of that infamous image of Fergie ranting and­ raving, not that he does really it's all hype. Its­ the act....or in him that makes him do it. Fergie was­ last spotted in House of Frase negotiating a new tea­ set deal. Two for the price of three! Thank you!

jamesl you are a typical utd supporter. Every trophy­ you have ever won recently has been down to blatant­ cheating (regular dodgy last minute penalties at old­ trafford) bullying of referees (Very famous pics of roy­ keane screaming in the face of a ref) Fergie whinging­ about perfectly fair decisions and coming up with­ pathetic excuses for losing (wasnt it the grey kit when­ they got destroyed by Southampton a few years back).­ Man utd make me ashamed to be english because they are­ a disgrace to football and I hope they go bankrupt. Oh­ and for the record, Ive worked at Salford Quays for the­ last 10 years and deal with Utds scummy self righteous­ supporters on a regular basis. Utd are finished and the­ rest of english is delighted. GET OVER IT!!!