Ecclestone comments anger Jews

Eurosport - Tue, 07 Jul 14:01:00 2009

Germany's Central Council of Jews has urged motor racing teams to boycott Formula One after its supremo Bernie Ecclestone praised Adolf Hitler's ability to "get things done".

FORMULA 1 Formula One chief executive Bernie Ecclestone arrives in the paddock in Silverstone - 0

Ecclestone, 78, was quoted in The Times on Saturday as saying he preferred totalitarian regimes to democracies and as singling out Hitler for pushing things through effectively.

"No team should work with him any more - a boycott would be more than appropriate," said the Council's vice president, Dieter Graumann.

Graumann said Ecclestone was "either empty headed or unbelievably malicious - probably both" and said he risked driving the whole of Formula One into a wall.

Germany's Grand Prix takes place at the Nuerburgring this weekend.

"Just one week before the start of the Nuerburgring, the teams should make very clear that whoever praises Hitler, shows he is not serious," Graumann told Handelsblatt newspaper. The Council confirmed the quotes.

Ecclestone was quoted in The Times as saying: "In a lot of ways, terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was in the way that he could command a lot of people, able to get things done."

German media also reported that Guenther Oettinger, state premier of the southern state of Baden-Wuerttemberg, had cancelled a planned meeting with Ecclestone on the sidelines of the Nuerburgring race because of his comments about Hitler.

Ecclestone tried to clarify his comments in top-selling Bild newspaper on Monday.

"It is all a big misunderstanding. In the interview we talked about structures and that it's sometimes good if something can be handled stringently and decided without limits," he said.

Asked by Bild why he had praised Hitler, Ecclestone said: "I did not mention Hitler as a positive example but I just pointed out that before his terrible crimes, he succeeded in fighting unemployment and the economic crisis."

Asked if he wanted to apologise, he said: "I would never dream of hurting the feelings of a community. A lot of people among my closest friends are Jews. Everyone that knows me, knows that I would never attack minorities."

Reuters

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  1. Sid I am well aware of the Night of the Long Knives me­ old!!!! As my degree is in History (with a speciality­ in Military Warfare and notably WW1 and 2) Depending on­ how you read into the whole thing old Adolf was either­ the total instigator of the plot or it was set up by­ Reinhard Heydrich!!!! However, the RHSA view of it­ would involve Hitler being manipulated and that­ doesn't seem too plausible!!! Of all the people­ killed during the 'Night' the NSDAP apologised­ for one 'accidental' killing!!!! He was a­ Doctor called Schmidt (sic) who shared the name of one­ on the list!!!!

    From Gareth, on Tue 7 Jul 2:21PM
  2. Lads I think that Jeanette has taken away all her IDs­ and gone. Perhaps she has a job and has had to start­ work again, I know I have to or Mrs Big Sid wont be­ able to buy any more shoes and the Little Big Sids and­ Little Big Sidettes will starve. And we dont want that!

    From Big Sid, on Tue 7 Jul 2:16PM
  3. king, more people have died as a result of religion in­ war than any other reason as most wars have a basis in­ religion!!!! also, most of us are probably not jewish­ and more likely as not WASPs or WASCs!!!! Yes the­ State of Israel does do nasty things to the­ neighbouring Arab states but they get a fair amount­ back at them!!!! However, in the history of the world,­ no major religion/race has had anything greater than­ the Holocaust happen to them!!! What Bernie has done­ is make an unintelligent statement which shows­ remarkable stupidity (in one apparently so smart) with­ his lack of understanding of historical events and­ ill-timed remarks with a major event for which he is­ responsible for organising in the country where the­ slaughter of (not just) the Jewish people began, soon­ to be held!!!!

    From Gareth, on Tue 7 Jul 2:14PM
  4. Oh I see k i n g e o i x, Bernice was just sticking up­ for the Arabs was he? Funny didnt pick that up in what­ he said.

    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 7 Jul 2:09PM
  5. Gareth, it wasnt just political opponents either. On­ "The Night of the Long Knives" where he­ kurbed the power of Rohm's SA, by imprisoning and­ killing or just killing. He also took the oppurtunity­ to have an art lecturer arrested, who was at the­ University in Vienna and had not given Hitler an­ admission some years back.

    Hardly a political­ opponent.

    From Big Sid, on Tue 7 Jul 2:03PM
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    All of you that are criticising bernie, especially the­ jews, for expressing his opinion and exercising his­ rights to freedom of speech are sick in the head.­ Please take a look at what our fellow jews in Isreal­ are doing to the Arabs. How many times have we spoken­ against that? Are they (Arabs) not human beings like­ us? What makes you think that we more special than any­ other race? how many people died in this world for our­ cause but we never show any sign of concern, instead we­ keep on getting more arrogant, greedy and always­ whining.We need to stop this nonsense and let everybody­ say what he wants to say. It is up to the listeners to­ believe him or not.

    From kingeoix, on Tue 7 Jul 2:02PM
  7. Harristrevor: as I know both Big Sid and MGA I can­ assure you that they are not the same person but 2­ different people from opposite ends of England.

    From the real adrian, on Tue 7 Jul 1:58PM
  8. Big Sid just had a thought, all of this stuff is­ familiar. Big Sid felt Deja Vu (great album that mga),­ he had seen all of this before and while I was sitting­ eating my lunch I remembered.

    Forza Ferrari, who­ doesnt post much on this thread any more because of­ muppets like Ms Bolan. Was being accused of being­ Marnio, loads of IDs kepted appearing saying­ "Forza we saw your ID change, thus you are­ Marnio". It was back in the days when Marnio was­ a bigger pain than Potter. But its the same as today,­ all of these brand new IDs keep appearing blaming­ everything on poor old mga, except then it was on­ Forza.

    Listen on the very small chance that­ harristrevor49, hentorgen, mclarenracefans,­ trofeopirelli and signanbill are not all the same­ person - ie Jeanette Bolan. Then you lot go your way­ and we will go our way. We have the evidence of the­ email address of Ms Bolan and you say you have­ evidence. But remember if you want to win peoples­ hearts and minds don't go the cut & paste­ route, we have enough of that from Ms Bolan.

    We have­ no record of cut & pasting.

    From Big Sid, on Tue 7 Jul 1:58PM
  9. Burt,
    Give up thumbing people down:-))
    I'm doing a­ scientific test here:-))
    Go and play with your train­ set for an hour or so then come back:-))
    No apology­ necessary:-))

    From MGA, on Tue 7 Jul 1:54PM
  10. why are there no modulators on a site such as this!!!! ­ I am aware that there are a group of people that go­ around all the message boards etc who basically thumbs­ down anything poor, in bad taste etc... to ensure­ it's removal/blocking. But surely Eurosport could­ have a group of regular (and sensible) people keep an­ eye on the content of these sites!!! Many people would­ I am sure love to do this without payment as they are­ already performing a similar role but just doing so­ unofficially!!! I know many sites/message boards that­ do this and I carried out this function on numerous­ places previously. That may stop people who create so­ many IDs just to be annoying from ruining what could be­ a great site and place for genuine and intelligent­ discussion!!! p.s before anyone asks, I have 2­ id's with my other being mikehailwoodwasagod but­ it's obvious that it is me!!!! The reason is that I­ login via 2 different ISPs depending on when/where i­ am.

    From Gareth, on Tue 7 Jul 1:49PM
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    the hamster slapping continues.

    From Burt, on Tue 7 Jul 1:44PM
  12. The article; Bernie is a complete idiot. Even if he­ meant no malice in his comments he ought to have­ realised the impact it would have ahead of the German­ GP.

    Mutliple IDs; everyone who has a multiple ID does­ so for one reason only. To thumb up/down comments of­ others and their own to antagonise/disrupt and­ generally ruin a forum for genuine F1 fans to have­ their say. Even if you're doing it in repsonse to­ others it's still pathetic. You're all losers.

    From Graham P, on Tue 7 Jul 1:28PM
  13. harristrevor49,
    To answer your question a while back a­ petition was posted on the message board site to Yahoo­ for them to do something about Marnio/Potter and the­ rest.
    Now if you was around at that time you would­ remember this.
    Marnio posted on that thread now there­ was a glitch in the Yahoo thread and it showed peoples­ email addresses i spotted Jeanette,s email address and­ it was a BT one i took a bit of flack when i posted it­ on this site for every one to see:-((
    But hey she had­ given us grief for a long time so was i bothered ill­ let you make your own mind up on that one.
    This is how­ we know about Marnio/Jeanette,
    Just for the record i am­ MGA and no one else But i do have email contact with­ many on this Board
    Let the Thumbing Begin:-))))))))))

    From MGA, on Tue 7 Jul 1:26PM
  14. After the delussional rantings by this stunted na.zi­ will anyone, anyone at all, in F1 just plant the little­ runt as he's passing their pit? I'll bet not­ one has the 'cojones' to even say a word to his­ face.

    From colourblindfan, on Tue 7 Jul 1:23PM
  15. Gareth, exactly, what do we expect. Im not surpirsed at­ all, isnt bernie just confirming what we already know.­ I just think that the arena in which he has confirmed­ it, that was his big mistake. As soon as it becomes­ political, then it could easily impact sponsorship etc,­ etc. We will have to see.

    From Alistair, on Tue 7 Jul 1:15PM
  16. Spread the news. Copy and paste next time marnio posts­ to p!ss him off.

    Marnio from peru made a mistake and­ posted in the 20-20 india and pakistan cricket forums­ using three of his other alias's, talking about­ indian and pakistani cricket and his motherland and how­ the British cut it in two.

    MARNIO FROM PERU IS A­ BRITISH ASIAN AND HATES THE UK
    Marnio from peru,­ potter, bernard lives in the UK but is of­ Pakistani/Indian descent
    MARNIO FROM PERU IS A BRITISH­ ASIAN AND HATES THE UK

    From Alistair, on Tue 7 Jul 1:13PM
  17. hentorgen another Jeanette Bolan ID, basically saying­ the same thing as the others.

    Jeanette Bolan you are­ fooling nobody old woman, give it up.

    Hang on maybe­ jeanette bolan is asian, we hadnt thought about that,­ hentorgan can you find out if jbolan is asian? I have­ been contacted by someone recently who claims to know­ Jeanette Bolan and I am hoping to be able to publish­ her address. Now that will be interesting and we can­ investigate the Asian thing too.

    But I dunno it would­ be just like to Potter to come up with a racist angle­ to take the heat off Ms Bolan?

    From Big Sid, on Tue 7 Jul 1:12PM
  18. what do you expect from someone like Ecclestone!!! ­ Sorry, but he is a little short arsed tinpot dictator­ (much like Napoleon) who's big mate happens to be­ the son of a fascist who was mates with Hitler­ (Mosley)!!! On this occassion you really can judge a­ man by the friends he keeps!!! Also, even if you could­ forget the anti-jewish side of Hitler and the­ Nazi's which some are willing to do on here­ (morons), people seem to forget that the little­ bavarian corporal killed hundreds of thousands of his­ own people and had all his politcal opponents murdered­ to keep power!!!! Suppose Bernie had Ron Dennis in the­ crosshairs a few times (only joking)!!!! FFS,­ 'Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do­ things'!!!! By who? He was the one who wrote Mein­ Kampf, he was the one who stood up in beer halls­ calling for racial hatred and blaming the jews, he was­ the one who started a pogrom against an entire race of­ people!!!!! No offence Bernie, but you are clearly a­ deranged idiot, with no understanding of some of the­ greatest events in world history and most likely need­ to be educated!!! I won't go so far as I really­ want to as you strike me as the sort of person­ who'd happily sue anyone who calls you anything­ remotely slanderous or libelous. I can get away with­ calling you a short arse as i'm 6ft 1 and therefore­ you are clearly shorter than me, or even an oompa­ loompa!!!

    From Gareth, on Tue 7 Jul 1:11PM
  19. INTERSETING, THIS POISONED DWARF IN COMMAND ON WHO­ HOSTS F1 RACES AND PRAISING HITLER, AND POLAND AND­ OTHER EASTERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES WANTING TO HOST F1­ RACES, ALL COUNTRIES THAT HITLER INVADED DURING WW2 AND­ LIBERATED BY STALIN...................ALL THIS POISONED­ DWARF WANTS IS TO DRAW AWARNESS TO THE NAZI GAS­ CHAMBERS THROUGHOUT POLAND AND EASTERN EUROPE,­ HIGHLIGHTING HITLERS SUCCESS IN MURDERING THE JEWS AND­ THE WORLD WONDERS WHY ISRAEL RESPONDS WITH MILITARY­ FORCE WHEN TERRORISTS AND ISLAMIC NATIONS ATTACK IT,­ PROMISING TO DESTROY­ ISRAEL......................................

    From David, on Tue 7 Jul 1:08PM
  20. What repetitive postings would that be­ harristrevor49?

    Why is it so unbelievable that jbolan­ is a woman, we know the ID of jbolan is correct? So­ why cant jbolan be a woman. Is bolan a very asian­ name?

    Why is it like some Monty Python sketch to claim­ that jbolan is a woman? Not only that I still­ don't think Potter would be such a racist if he was­ an Asian, it makes no sense at all.

    Come on explain­ these things.

    Jeanette please leave this site, go to­ the football site where no one will know you are the­ one behind Potter and his chums. Nobody on the F1 site­ thinks you are funny, you are just pathetic.

    From Big Sid, on Tue 7 Jul 1:06PM
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