He was on viagra a lot of guys are using it you could­ tell at the end because he had a major diamond cutter­ on the podium. The peloton was full of it this tour­ and now I guess they have found a test..

I think after watching the TDF for years, and being a­ fan, listening to the velo club in France and the­ respect I had for the people on the panel, I feel for­ certain that all those outstanding winners and stage­ winners are and have been all along cheats
Armstrong,­ Ulrich and basso included, and the hardest thing is to­ have participated clean and to have been beaten out of­ site by cheats, I don’t see anything honourable in­ winning like that.

clive

lance armstrong will be found out in time is not­ humanly possible to ride like that for all those tours­ i now see hes protesting about testing his frozen­ sample for drugs tests not available then

Pantani didn't fail a drug test in 99 - his­ hemocrit level was over 50% which due to­ 'health' reasons was ejected from the Giro. But­ this was not a failed drug test. He could have started­ racing 2 weeks later. Of course high hemocrit is a good­ indicator of EPO use but certainly not conclusive of­ drug use. Now I'm not saying he didn't dope -­ in fact he probably did but he did NOT test positive­ ever.

shumacher is hopefully one of the last obstacles to me­ having a drugs free fantasy tdf team next year

Well about time, was waiting for this positive test­ since he went from good time-trialist to world beater­ overnight. No surprise but shame they couldnt have got­ him sooner. All the signs were there, sudden massive­ improvement, teammates none to keen on him, yet he gets­ away with it all til now. good riddance to bad rubbish.

You're right. Excessive Heamocrit levels.

The­ only bloke who has been given a ban that i feel a­ little bit sorry for is Petachi. I beleive CONI banned­ him for using to much of his asthma drug which he had­ UCI permission for. All others who dope to win deserve­ their fate.

Oh, and one more thing. Pantani "did" fail a­ drug test in the 1999 Giro. Know your facts tmartine.

infinite.loop1, you are a tit. It clearly is the­ cleanest tour in years as there have been more positive­ tests for years. The TdF cannot stop riders from doping­ but it can put the test in place to catch them when­ they do. This has obviously worked as this story­ proves, i just hope the young british riders coming­ through are not stupid enough to think that they­ won't get caught of they feel the need for a little­ synthetic "help". I'll see you all at­ Goodwood for the 3rds race this sunday, if you've­ got the legs for it.

tmartine, my logic is quite astute actually. I do not­ condemn people until "after" they are caught.­ Feel free to run your own personal Inquisition if you­ so choose. I will continue to cheer for my favorite­ riders until they are "proven" to be doping.­ Lance never failed a test...... period.

FYI Maurice1958, caffeine is "not" a banded­ substance. It use to be, but WADA dropped the ban a few­ years back.

I kind of thought he was a bit of a sore sport when he­ took a tumble on the uphill finish and then proclaimed­ he believed he should be given the same time as­ everyone else so he could keep yellow one more day.

This is for all the people who keep talking so much­ pile about how the sport is clean and exciting now and­ they don't want Armstrong back. Well so much for­ that. The total of caught in last years tour keep's­ adding up. Welcome back Lance who never tested positive­ for any banned substance and is now riding for a cause­ even greater than himself and those around him.

Solving the drugs problem is simply down to making the­ disincentives to cheat overpower the incentives.
Some­ years the incentives to take drugs will grow (e.g.­ Armstrong exits, Contador out)... and so the­ disincentives have to grow proportionately more- move 2­ yr ban to 4 yr ban.
It really is as simple as that (and­ keep drug detection at cutting edge).
Make the system­ difficult to cheat and not worthwhile career-wise to­ cheat.

I was surpised by how Schumacher was ripping up­ Cancellara in the TdF's two main TTs.

German cycling is already struugling for sponsers. then­ along comes this numpty

This is unbelievable, I am convinced that some of the­ comments are unreal. In time when businesses and trade­ in general is in decline. Families are struggling to­ buy food and pay mortgages. Yet we have people hissy­ fitting and making statements like " i hate his­ guts... he should rot in jail for the rest of his­ "career" or what the banks have been doing­ for years with illegal charges, cyclist gets it in the­ neck wiyj, "CHEATING in order to make MONEY and­ that's CRIMINAL"
Hello out there it is only a­ sport and a few young men are prepared to cut corners.­ how many of you saints have taken a strong cup of­ coffee or a coke to help pick you up..... it contains­ caffeine a banned substance. why not go to a famous­ info site and compare other sports and you will find­ ....wait for it ATHLETICS 366 - Cycling 116 including­ the 2 yesterday have been banned for taking­ substances.
Better Still why not attack the £100k a­ week brigade who snort there way from pay cheque to pay­ cheque in the beautiful sport.
I am convinced most of­ the comments of this nature are made by individuals who­ have no notion about this fantastic sport.

This is unbelievable, I am convinced that some of the­ comments are unreal. In time when businesses and trade­ in general is in decline. Families are struggling to­ buy food and pay mortgages. Yet we have people hissy­ fitting and making statements like " i hate his­ guts... he should rot in jail for the rest of his­ "career" or what the banks have been doing­ for years with illegal charges, cyclist gets it in the­ neck wiyj, "CHEATING in order to make MONEY and­ that's CRIMINAL"
Hello out there it is only a­ sport and a few young men are prepared to cut corners.­ how many of you saints have taken a strong cup of­ coffee or a coke to help pick you up..... it contains­ caffeine a banned substance. why not go to a famous­ info site and compare other sports and you will find­ ....wait for it ATHLETICS 366 - Cycling 116 including­ the 2 yesterday have been banned for taking­ substances.
Better Still why not attack the £100k a­ week brigade who snort there way from pay cheque to pay­ cheque in the beautiful sport.
I am convinced most of­ the comments of this nature are made by individuals who­ have no notion about this fantastic sport.

why has it taken so long for this to come out?­ Schumacher has been racing in other events since the­ tour. can someone please enlighten me?

So much for a new start (100% me my @rse) and getting­ rid of the old guard. Welcome back Lance, you are­ probably the only rider who rode clean

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