'Yo momma!': The rules of trash-talk

Eurosport - Sat, 07 Nov 09:56:00 2009

David Haye has been making full use of all his best trash talk in the build-up to his clash with Nikolai Valuev and we guide you through the frankly terrifying world of boxing trash-talk.

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"Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defence is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"

Boxing is no longer the Sport of Kings. It is now the Sport of Blings - and if you don't speak the lingo, you're going to get left behind. Left behind like a bum.

Pre-fight smack-talk has become an obligatory feature in these days of ten-city 'press conference tours,' hype and tension building at an exponential rate until the fighters' disliking for each other quickly turns from publicity phoney to genuine I-want-to-rip-your-head-off-and-spit-down-your-throat hatred.

There is no doubt: employed properly, smack-talk can become a potent psychological weapon, a pre-emptive and unsettling low-blow fired off long before the first bell rings.

But in the wrong hands, it just sounds lame. There is a fine line to tread through this cuss-littered minefield.

So, the next time a fighter starts beating his chops, make sure you know what's going down with Eurosport.Yahoo.com's Six Golden Rules of Smack-Talk...

1. Family is fine: Apart from race or sexuality, there is no topic that should be considered off limits. Some people think families should be out of bounds, especially mothers. Those people are chumps. Believe me, yo momma is fair-game - and that's exactly what it says on the toilet wall...

Example: Joe Frazier: "What've you been up to?" Ken Norton: "My wife just had a baby." Frazier: "Congratulations! Whose baby is it?"

2. They've ALL got it comin': Why limit your range by restricting your trash-talking to just your opponent? The whole freakin' world is against you, so let rip, brother, let rip! Reporters, promoters, referees, your opponent's homies - spray them all with your smokin' verbal volleys. Those punks all deserve it.

Example: Reporter: "How is your conditioning?" James Toney: "**** you!" Second reporter: "Who are you sparring with and how is it going?" Toney: "Keep asking stupid questions, it'll be you. Now **** off!"

3. Physical threats are expected: You're a boxer; it is your job to inflict physical pain. People aren't going to be shocked if before the fight you scream with foaming mouth about wanting to rip your opponent's head off. Far from it, my friend; the more vicious and sadistic your abuse, the better.

Example: Trainer Roger Mayweather: "When Hatton knocks at that door, somebody's going to answer that door with a baseball bat, beat him across his ******* head."

4. Stay in your comfort zone: Boxers aren't the smartest breed; you only have to watch Rocky to see that. But they should not be judged for their cultural ignorance: you try running head-first in to a brick wall for a decade and see how many F.Scott Fitzgerald books you can name. That's why trash-talk should be kept simple - for there is nothing more cringe-worthy than a boxer drawn outside his comfort zone...

Example: "Two ton" Tony Galento, one-time heavyweight contender, when asked if he knew who Shakespeare was: "I ain't never heard of him. I suppose he's one of them foreign heavyweights. They're all lousy. Sure as hell, I'll moider de bum."

5. Highlight physical abnormalities: The strong have picked on the weak since time began; feel proud that you are continuing that legacy. Show no mercy. Never forget that mocking the afflicted is FUNNY. If it wasn't then why did they make so many series of You've Been Framed? Like a Rottweiler ravaging a terrified puppy, locate the jugular, pounce - and don't stop shaking until all signs of life have been extinguished...

Example: Tyson to Razor Ruddock: "You're sweet. I'm going to make sure you kiss me good with those big lips of yours. I'm gonna make you my girlfriend."

6. Never lose your cool: At one point or another, every boxer has been called a "be-atch" by his opponent. The point of trash-talking is to try to get you real mad - show your class and don't indulge. Because when your opponent gets in your face and says he wants to eat your children, he doesn't really mean it. And if he does, good luck - it's gonna take more than a bit of trash-talk to get out of this one.

Example: Muhammad Ali, to American Journalist Howard Cosell: "'I'm gonna whoop him, Howard. You just watch!" Cosell: "You're feeling very truculent today, Muhammad." Ali: "Truculent? If that's good, I'm it!"

Top five Haye quotes in the lead-up to the Valuev bout

1. "He is the ugliest human being I've ever seen in the flesh. I've seen ugly guys before in movies, but that's probably the prosthetics. But I'm talking about, physically with no make-up. He's the ugliest human being on Earth. He makes the Elephant Man look like Pamela Anderson. I have watched Lord of the Rings and films with strange looking people but for a human being to look like he does is pretty shocking.

2. "Valuev's known as 'The Beast from the East' and there's a reason he's got that nickname. He's a big, ugly, sweaty and hairy man from the Eastern bloc.

3. "The size I am, I sort of come up to his chest and apparently the word around the campfire is that he doesn't smell too sweet. I've talked to a few guys that have been in the ring with him and they say that's the first thing they notice, just the stench. Hopefully he runs a cold tap over himself or someone hoses him down outside before he comes in."

4. "All you've got to do is look at a picture of the guy and that speaks volumes. I consider him more of a circus show freak that happens to be boxing. He's an ugly type of fighter, he tries to lean on you, tries to brawl and comes out with a really hairy chest that gets matted and is disgusting. I've never been a big fan of the matted hair in my face."

5. "I would love to bring a lawnmower into the ring with me before I fight this guy. Everyone goes on about his size but have you seen how hairy this guy is? I would suggest a wax job but that would take too long. A lawnmower is the only practical solution. You know what I mean?"

Best of the rest - actually, just the best of Tyson

"My main objective is to be professional but to kill him."

"My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm."

"All praise is to Allah, I'll fight any man, any animal, if Jesus were here I'd fight him too."

"I try to catch him right on the tip of the nose, because I try to push the bone into the brain."

"I paid a worker at New York's zoo to re-open it just for me and Robin [his wife]. When we got to the gorilla cage there was one big silverback gorilla there just bullying all the other gorillas. They were so powerful but their eyes were like an innocent infant. I offered the attendant $10,000 to open the cage and let me smash that silverback's snotbox. He declined."

Alex Sharratt / Eurosport

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  1. Does size really mater, David had proved to the whole­ world that size is no barrier as long as you have the­ brain, size is just a mass of flesh. Hayemaker will be­ the Champ for a long long time. Hope He checks every­ moves he makes as long as that con man call Don is­ milling aroung him.
    Well David, you made us all­ pround.

    Denis Twontoo

    From Muzungu, on Sun 8 Nov 9:34AM
  2. WHAT A FIGHT, ONE HARDWORKING FELLA BEEN ROBBED WITH­ HIS CROWN IN FRONT OF MILLION VIEWERS, SORRY MATE COZ­ THE JUDGES THINK YOU CANT BRING MONEY AND CROWD TO WBA,­ THEY CHOOSE THE BROTHER OF USAIN BOLT WHO LOVES TO RUN­ AROUND AND AWAY FROM HIS ENEMY, BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY­ WAY FOR HIM TO WIN HAHAHAHAHAHA, WHAT A LIFE, IF YOU­ WATCH UFC THE CHALLENGER SHOULD REALLY PROVE THAT HE­ CAN BEAT THE CHAMPION IN A CONVINCING PASSION, NOT LIKE­ THIS ONE RUN AWAY TO WIN.

    From Ronaldo G, on Sun 8 Nov 8:43AM
  3. WHAT A FIGHT, ONE HARDWORKING FELLA BEEN ROBBED WITH­ HIS CROWN IN FRONT OF NILLION VIEWERS, SOORY MATE COZ­ THE JUDGES THINK YOU CANT BRING MONEY AND CROWD TO WBA,­ THEY CHOOSE THE BROTHER OF USAIN BOLT WHO LOVES TO RUN­ AROUND AND AWAY FROM HIS ENEMY, BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY­ WAY FOR HIM TO WIN HAHAHAHAHAHA, WHAT A LIFE, IF YOU­ WATCH UFC THE CHALLENGER SHOULD REALLY PROVE THAT HE­ CAN BEAT THE CHAMPION IN A CONVINCING PASSION, NOT LIKE­ THIS ONE RUN AWAY TO WIN.

    From Ronaldo G, on Sun 8 Nov 8:42AM
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    From kalysmith28, on Sun 8 Nov 3:12AM
  5. GET EATING CAROLYN U SCRUFF. U PROBABLY HAVE S£X WITH­ UR DOG TO DONT YOU. DIRTY WOMAN

    From papillon soo soo, on Sat 7 Nov 11:34PM
  6. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR DOG @#$% LOL

    From robert, on Sat 7 Nov 11:27PM
  7. JLee...you're not very wise. Stopped before round­ 5? Funny! No..embarrasing!

    From sure, on Sat 7 Nov 11:20PM
  8. IF HAYE WINS, I WILL EAT MY DOGS POOH!!!!!!!!, THAT­ RUSSIAN MUVVA FUCCA IS LIKE A STEAM TRAIN ON STEROIDS,­ BETTER GET THE NUROFEN READY FOR MR HAYE'S !!!!!!!

    From CAROLYN, on Sat 7 Nov 8:50PM
  9. facking @#$% burgers

    From gary.rowlatt, on Sat 7 Nov 8:33PM
  10. Make no mistake... Haye will win. If anyone needs­ proof, go watch Valuev's last fight against­ Holyfield... the American great granddad whooped his­ arse for 12 rounds... Valuev has absolutely no skill -­ just one great natural gift... his size.

    Against a­ skilled fast technician of Haye’s size (and please note­ Valuev has never fought anyone as skilled as Haye), he­ will be made to look stupid. It will be like a sumo­ wrestler doing the 100 mtrs against bolt! That is what­ the gap will be like. Trust me that is a fact.

    All of­ this hype and @#$% about Valuev having half a chance is­ to get public interest… and lots of pay per view­ customers. Unfortunately, its just a smart business­ move by Sky… not that I am complaining as I am also a­ willing paying customer! Lol… But I just don’t like to­ patronised by any dam right stupid misleading­ statements about some fighter who is supposedly got­ half a chance? Yer right of course he has!!!!­ hahahahahaha

    The only question remains is can Valuev­ be genuinely hurt? or even more can he be floored?...­ Those are questions I can only give you a educated­ guess at. But as in most instances, if something bleeds­ than it can be hurt... so I would put my money on Haye­ laying his big @#$% down on the canvas... I would go as­ far to say that he will do that within 5 rounds.

    If­ it goes beyond 5 rounds the ref or Valuev’s corner will­ stop the fight... as the boy will be so far behind on­ points it would be pointless for him to carry­ on.

    Please everyone don’t be so naive to think this­ fight is nothing more than a manufactured opportunity­ for Haye to shine to the world... And with all great­ respect to Adam Booth and co who have achieved this.­ And I am not taking anything away from Haye as in­ actual fact I am a huge fan of him... even as far back­ in his early amateur days boxing out of Bermondsey. The­ kid is true class. Everyone should get behind him... I­ appreciate he talks a bit to much at times... but he is­ only kid getting the most ou

    From jlee792005, on Sat 7 Nov 7:02PM
  11. IM MORE THEN SURE THAT HAYEMAN WILL KNOCK THIS RUSSIAN­ GUY IN 4TH OR 5TH ROUND.U WIIL SEE. ­ ADAMEK WILL BE A CHAMPION OF THE WORLD NEXT YEAR

    From mefistofeles23, on Sat 7 Nov 4:59PM
  12. Comment hidden due to its low rating. Show

    i hope hay dies
    i hope he hits him again and again and­ again
    untill he ruptures his heart and laughs in his­ face while haye is begging him to help

    From rpm1184, on Sat 7 Nov 4:55PM
  13. TYSON BIT HIS F***ING EAR COS HE WANTED TO REALLY HURT­ HIM AND HOLYFIELD WAS INTENTIONALLY CLASHING HEADS AND­ GETTING THE BETTER OF IT.

    DID YOU WATCH THE­ FIGHT!?!??!?!

    TYSON IN HIS DAY WAS A BRUTE FORCE.­ EVERYONES BOXING DAYS COME TO AN END. WHEN EVERYONE­ FOUND OUT HIS WEAKNESS. F**K SAKE. STFU.

    what about­ MUHAMMAD ALI when he got pummeled 3 out of his last 4­ fights THE SAME AS TYSON

    TYSON LOST 6 FIGHTS IN HIS­ CAREER
    ALI LOST 5

    after losing to holyfield he fought­ Golota
    "after round two Gołota refused­ to continue fighting"

    and everyone knows it­ wasn't the same tyson who went into the ring with­ LEWIS

    From insideyourcooch, on Sat 7 Nov 2:31PM
  14. p.s tough guy bit Evander's ear to get the fight­ stopped,coward was taking a whooping and needed an out.

    From jack torrance, on Sat 7 Nov 1:07PM
  15. Tyson was little more than a heavy handed bully,as soon­ as the kids in his playground started hitting back he­ folded like a pack of cards,watch the Douglas,Holyfield­ and Lewis fights in the latter he was practically­ bubbling in his corner getting his cuts seen to,once­ his myth was exposed he was fair game to all and­ sundry,cmon Danny beat him up for f ucks sake.

    From jack torrance, on Sat 7 Nov 1:06PM
  16. I'll f*** you till you love me fa**** - Mike Tyson

    From binga_spleetje, on Sat 7 Nov 1:02PM
  17. tharsh-talk jst sounds lame, that's all there's­ to it imo.

    From fast_corey, on Sat 7 Nov 12:41PM
  18. For as long as Boxing has had RULES, it has been a­ noble contest not a Gutter fight.
    "Sport of­ Gentlemen" - a 'gentleman' being not a­ toff, but anyone who is respectful and plays by the­ rules.
    Without this ethic, Boxing as a sport COULD NOT­ EXIST, so it is not window-dressing, it is­ essential.

    It should reflect this ethic by making­ Gutter talk illegal, and throwing out anyone who­ engages in it.
    The media, Mr. Sharratt should also turn­ its back, not write in praise of it.

    It's still­ perfectly possible to 'talk up' a fight without­ stooping into Gutter talk.

    From David, on Sat 7 Nov 12:36PM
  19. 'My main objective is to be professional but to­ kill him'

    This has to be the greatest quote ever

    From DarkE, on Sat 7 Nov 11:24AM
  20. Boxing is not 'the sport of kings' thats­ horseracing.Boxing is the sport of 'gentlemen'­ Still why let facts get in the way of a quote????

    From Philip, on Sat 7 Nov 11:05AM
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