Premier League - Fans propose McLeish protest

we should look at a manager at an unfashionable club­ that is doing better than expected. Swansea have just­ given a new contract to Mr Rogers. That leaves paul­ lambert from Norwich, or the bloke who is taking­ Sunderland up the table at a hundred miles an­ hour.....now whats his name again???

I believe Redknapp has always said he find it difficult­ to turn down the england job ie come and get me. Glad­ he's got this tx thing out the way or the press­ would use it to get him the sack when he is England­ manager.

Still not sure how i feel about McLeish. If­ he hasn't got the dressing room then, Jeff I­ think your right, he needs to go. I just wonder­ who'd come in and do a better job. I suppose if I­ had to put say a name it would be Sam Alladyce

ooops sorry doctor harry hill afterall he is still a­ doctor

i read somewhere that the next aston villa manager is­ going to be harry hill

Im on the gin again

I agree (scary this, innit?!) that Harry is probably­ way better off where he is, and could easily end up in­ the nasty mess of personal vilification that poor­ Graham Taylor (a legend to every Villa and Watford fan)­ did. Nevertheless, he's an English football man to­ his core, and I don't think he would be able to­ resist the opportunity.

Y'know DavidD, I'm kinda hoping the FA will­ offer him the job.

He thinks that its suitable for an­ ex-city manager to go directly to villa, maybe he also­ thinks a scottish manager should run the england­ team.

Although, I wouldn't be so sure of Redknapp­ either, he has a good think going with spurs at the­ moment, why would he want to leave to take on the­ poisoned chalice that is the England job.

From our own­ experience look at Graham Taylor, excellent for us then­ suddenly it all goes wrong for him (and ever after)­ when he took the England job.

Bloody hell, jeffo, so much acrimonious water has­ passed under the bridge that I forgot there's a­ subject on which we wholeheartedly agree (which has­ some serious implications for your swingeing, blanket­ evaluation of my "punditry"). O'Neill was­ always a wizard at getting performances out of eleven­ players on the pitch (notwithstanding their tendency to­ give away goals like free Smarties in the last ten­ minutes of games - I notice that hasn't started­ with the Mackems yet). But he has never been able to­ keep players outside of his chosen eleven happy. He­ never even SPEAKS to squad players, by all accounts. As­ you say, he did indeed throw a hissy fit and leave­ because he was told to get rid of all the expensive­ signings he was clearly and correctly admitting were no­ good (by never playing them) before buying any more.­ Those who continue to bleat on that he "wasn't­ allowed to spend money" have some serious issues­ with maths.

As for McLeish, I have never given a­ flying stuff that he came from Small Heath, and I­ don't think many Villa fans do, despite that being­ constantly tripped out in the media as the reason we­ don't like him. I hated his appointment because his­ record outside of the two-team tartan league stinks to­ high heaven, and his teams play sideways, headless­ chicken football. If anything, it would have been all­ the sweeter if he was a roaring success at Villa after­ leaving the Small Heath illegal caravan site.

Anyway,­ do you think the buffoons at the FA would be stupid­ enough to appoint McLeish? We could always tell them­ he's had more success against France than a­ succession of German armies. The jocks seem to believe­ it.

hmm, clipped my ending :-(

To finish, again, lol

When­ a manager no longer has the confidence of­ the fans,­ thats one thing. When he no longer has the confidence­ of his own players, thats a whole different story.

I­ think it's time to part ways on semi-friendly terms­ before his opposition becomes more vocal and critical,­ the problem with this is that the fans almost WANT to­ lose, just to give further ammunition to their cause.

Crickey! you have a day off the 'media' &­ all this erupts around you.

RE - Previous posts

Chris­ (19), you're largely spot on about MON. He left­ because he was told to play the poop he'd bought­ before he got more money (remember MON spent 9.5m on­ Curtis Davies, 3m on Habib Beye, 9m on Nigel Reo-Coker,­ all now gone for less than 3m back). MON is perhaps the­ greatest man-manager the epl has ever seen, he has the ­ invaluable quality of making poop shine, but he has­ his limits. The record proves that MON can only take a­ club SO far.

I doubt a protest will make the slightest­ bit of difference one way or the other, Lerner and­ Faulkener obviously have little interest in­ 'pleasing the fans'.

Finally, someone­ mentioned about this being an attempt to create a­ 'story' out of nothing. Probably true, but when­ the media smell a scalp, they rarely stop until they­ have it.

From my own personal fan perspective, McLeish­ was NEVER a popular appointment, even those who­ supported him (& still do) only did so simply­ because they could see past the politics that he's­ a manager who has achieved on limited budgets, however­ the stigma of him coming directly from the bluenoses­ determined that he had to achieve almost instant­ success to be given just a half-chance by the­ nay-sayers.

In retrospect, this was a bad appointment­ by perhaps a chairman (or faulkener) who concentrated­ more on the CV & their requirements than what the­ fans would think, also simply just ignoring general­ footballing 'common sense'.

I did support­ McLeish until after the Newcastle game when I began to­ see & hear reports of dressing room discontent­ (which yahoo were 2 days late in reporting). Both­ Ireland & N'Nogbia openly questioned their subs­ against newcastle, a match we could (& possibly­ should) have won & I can't say I disagree with­ them. When a manager no longer has the confidence of­ the fans, thats one thing. When he n

Alex McLeish won many a battle on so many levels up­ against Martin O'Neill over their respective spells­ in the S.P.L. so he can't be that bad, someone­ earlier said about him buying duff players, all the­ best managers in the world make duff signings, you­ could go through the whole top 6 in the prem and name­ duff signings made by Ferguson, Dalgliesh, & yes­ Rednapp who spends money like water at every club he­ has been at & has literally won very little to show­ for it, give McLeish a bit more time & he will sort­ it out.

@ O.S. Completey agree with you. I'm not a Villa­ fan either but I know a freind who is a Birmingham city­ fan. I serioulsy dont know how you appoint a manager­ who in his previous season in the Premier League got­ his club relegated. People can say it's the players­ fault becuase they didnt play well but the man in­ charge is responsiable. McCleish too his credit has­ done some good things (In Scotland and with Birmingham­ last season) He's an OK manager in the SPL or even­ a championship club on a shoestring budget but his­ teams have no depth to them, they only know to play one­ way football and that hit it long and hope to god­ someone gets on it a bit like Owen Coyle at Bolton­ except he adds the Hit them hard as well. I cannot see­ Villa getting out of the predicament they are in. They­ are sinking dangerously close to relegation and if­ McCleish stays in charge it's more than likely to­ become a possibilty. Would be a shame to lose one of­ the orignal prem league clubs again but unless the­ Villa board do something. They will be playing­ championship football next year and without the likes­ of Downing, Bent and all your young talent thats­ breaking through.

o.s. there are 4 scottish managers in the top 10­ (everton joint 10th). an englishman has never won it.­ you have to go back 21 years with leeds in the old­ division for a "home bred winner" so dont ­ put down managers just because they are scottish.did­ mcleish not win you your first cup since 1956?

Though I am not a Villa supporter and will never be, I­ did say at the start of the season when this man was­ appointed that, Villa were heading to the Championships­ but some irate fans disagreed with me. It's very­ surprising how the Board of Aston Villa could easily­ ignore what this man did to Birmingham and gave him an­ appointment without even thinking it through. Who ever­ made that decision needs to hang his head now in the­ public. Yes this man was moderately successful with­ Rangers but no one should use success in Scottish­ football as a yardstick for appointment into the­ English Premiership. No Scottish manager in the modern­ era aside from Sir Alexa has been able to cut in the­ EPL. Not their fault of course. It is the fault of the­ Boards that keep giving them jobs here in the EPL. When­ someone has been appointed based on his success with a­ club that will struggle even in the English­ Championship, then you can blame them if they find the­ mountain too much to climb in the EPL.

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Sorry Max. Last comment was meant for Half a brain.

Max post 26.

Yea I kinda get your point but it was­ simply business. He spent £24m to buy the goals that­ saved him £40m.

Matthew I'm ok with the truth personally. The truth­ is:

Villa don't have a lot of money (or more like­ we don't have the appropriate income to cover our­ outgoings as far as the new UEFA regulations are­ concerned). I still think these regulations may catch­ some clubs out but time will tell. We are in the­ premier league as we always have been and still will be­ next season.

The blues, who generally I don't have­ a problem with (if only they could keep the green eye­ under control), also don't have a lot of money. In­ fact depending how it goes with the crook who owns you­ you may well be in big trouble. You are in the­ championship and still will be next season.

The truth­ is fine with me.

WHY???? You are a team with no money and your manager­ has you safe from relegation. What do you expect? The­ Champions League? Protest against the lack of a salary­ cap and better revenue sharing you morons. Not against­ the manager.

Chris, comment 19, I actually agree with you on most­ points. I still think it stinks that his successor was­ given money when he was told to sort the squad, a squad­ that was knocking on the Top4 door. But I agree with­ the rest of your statement.