maghinim.
maghinim
maghinim

Anyone recognise this­ @#$% as someone to bore your @#$% off not to mention­ someone whos head you`d love to cave in?

In reference­ to the essence of the argument that is current:

1. ­ Hamilton gave back any advantage he gained by allowing­ the boring Fin to retake the lead position.

2. How can­ you take advantage of someone who didnt finnish­ (intentional spelling error), the race?

REWIND­ ........to shut (maghinim) up. Mclaren didnt steal­ this data, they were gifted it by a pissed off Ferrari­ employee. Now sod off (maghinim) and apply your­ hemmorhoid cream.

PS.

Can we meet somewhere so I can­ @#$% you?

Weaver, again I need to educate you beyond your years.­ Winning is what matters in F! and if you calculated the­ 3 out of 4 win scenario thru the 2007 season that would­ mean Ferrari would have won 12 out of 16 races. Since­ their were 17 races that year they could take the day­ off and let McLaren fight it out for a token victory.­ THATS DOMINATION!. Stop with your dictionary­ definitions, they do not apply to the discussion. My­ comments that McLaren illegally acquired technology was­ referencing several books in light of your lack of­ factual information regarding the stolen Ferrari­ technology, I was not giving credibility to the­ information. Sorry I wont have you around to banter, I­ love schooling under-educated experts.

I STOPPED WATCHING F1 WHEN SENNA DIED (GUTTED­ COUND'NT BELIEVE IT)
I GOT BACK INTO IT WHEN A­ YOUNG NEW TALENTED BRIT CAME ALONG LAST YEAR
WE NOW­ HAVE A CLOSE BATTLE WITH THREE GREAT DRIVERS AND IT­ SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN F--KED UP
IF THIS IS NOT OVERTURNED­ AND MASSA DOES GET THE TITLE BY A POINT OR TWO I AM­ SURE HE WILL NOT BE 100% HAPPY .. HE IS A SUPERB­ DRIVER VERY VERY COMPETITIVE . I WOULD NOT WANT A­ TITLE GAINED BY CONTROVERSY AND SPECULATION.. I WOULD­ WANT TO HAVE MY DRIVING WIN IT .. PEOPLE MAY FORGET­ BUT THE DRIVERS WHO IN THE PAST HAVE TOOK A TITLE BY­ CHEATING (NOT THE CASE WITH MASSA HES NOT A CHEAT)­ WILL REMEMBER JUST HOW THEY BECAME WORLD CHAMPION
I­ WOULD DARE TO SAY THAT MASSA FROM THE HEART WOULD LIKE­ TO SEE THIS DECISION OVERTURNED TO.. SO THEN IF HE DOES­ TAKE THE TITLE HE WILL BE 100% HAPPY HE DID IT WITH­ SKILL
AND NOT OFF TRACK DECISIONS

FERRARI you are poor - people!!!

WHY ARE FERRARI SO RATED ARE THEY NOT OWNED BY FIAT­ (SHED ON WHEELS)
WHAT ALL THIS BANTER ABOUT MACLAREN ­ NICKING INFORMATION FROM FERRARI
GOING BUY THE ENGINE­ BLOW UPS FERRARI HAVE HAD ITS A GOOD JOB THEY­ DIDN'T COPY THE ENGINE TOO HAHAHAH
FERRARI BIT­ LIKE ITALIAN FOOTBALL GOOD UNTIL UNDER PRESSURE THEN­ THEY START WAIVING THE HANDS ABOUT AND GET HOT UNDER­ THE COLLAR

COME ON MACLAREN YOU CAN WIN THIS­ SPAGHETTI WESTERN

LEWIS HAMILTON WILL BE WORLD CHAMPION
LEWIS HAMILTON­ WILL BE WORLD CHAMPION
UNDERSTAND
UNDERSTAND
IF NOT­ TAKE UP STAMP COLLECTING YOU MOANING GITS

Forgot to add - I suspect I have been around F1 a darn­ site longer than you have - and that includes working. ­ But frankly this discussion is becoming boring so I­ shan't bother with it any more! Bye bye!

"claim"? maghinim, says it all really - I­ could "claim" I was 10 foot tall or a­ millionaire but it wouldn't make it true.

Oh and­ "dominate" means "tower above;­ overlook; overshadow" or "occupy a commanding­ or elevated position". If Ferrari were managing­ to do this, then it seems odd that only one of their­ cars was beating the McLarens in those races (or none­ as in some of them).

weaver, first off, let me apologies for the moron­ comment, it was not called for. However, at the rate of­ second and third place's that McLaren were­ chalking-up in early 2007 the championship would have­ been over at Silverstone, how appropriate. If you took­ the time to read my comment you would have noticed that­ I said - FERRARI WON 3 OF THE FIRST 4 RACES OF 2007 AND­ DOMINATED MCLAREN - AND THEY DID. The objective of­ racing is to WIN. Ferrari won all 4 poles and defeated­ McLaren 3 of the first 4 races by: +7 sec., +2 sec. and­ +6 sec. McLaren were simply out-classed. It was around­ this time that most of the testimony and investigative­ documents contend that McLaren outfitted their cars­ with new aerodynamic and suspension technology. Alonso­ testified under oath and gave specific details on the­ type of changes made to his car and the origin of the­ new technology - FERRARI. He testified to avoid going­ to jail or getting fined $50m, not because of your­ ridiculous assertion that he needed team orders to win.­ By the way, stop with the holier-than-thou routine,­ McLaren has used team orders to win races for years,­ unfortunately that has not been an issue in recent­ years, this is when I want to call you a moron again,­ but I'm not . Instead, their are several books that­ you should read that will provide detailed information­ on the events of stephnegate, read them before you rant­ about the competitive world of McLaren Motorsports.­ Some of these books claim that for years McLaren has­ been illegally acquiring technical data from other­ teams, and I'm not talking about the kind of data­ one receives from drivers when they switch teams.­ I'm talking big time technology from Benetton,­ Renault and Honda. As for the re-pass, of course it is­ allowed - but it was assumed illegally. Again, read the­ rule book, it states that a driver may NOT GAIN­ ADVANTAGE! that includes position however, you can fail­ to gain position on an opponent but still gain­ ADVANTAGE. That's why Hamilton was penalized

maghinim - firstly I think it is interesting that you­ need to resort to name calling. I was quite polite to­ you and find it a shame that you cannot extend the same­ courtesy to me. Oh and by the way I can assure you­ that my mental development is well beyond the ages of 8­ to 12. (Meaning of moron in case you did not even know­ the meaning of the word you were using).

Now let me­ see- you say that the McLaren cars were not competitive­ for the first four to six races in 2007? Then it is­ interesting to note that they were second and third in­ Australia (beating at least one Ferrari). They were­ first and second in Malaysia (beating both Ferraris). ­ They were second and fifth in Bahrain (beating at least­ one Ferrari) and second and third in Spain (beating at­ least one Ferrari). In the fifth race they were also­ first and second.

These races all took place when­ according to you they could not compete because they­ did not have the Ferrari technology. It is such a pity­ that you either did not check your facts or decided to­ assume that I did not know the results. Given the real­ competitive edge that the McLaren cars already had they­ had no need of Ferrari data. As for anything Alonso­ may have said whether or not on oath it absolutely­ cannot be believed - he only decided he had something­ to say when he realised that McLaren (unlike Ferrari)­ would not give team orders to allow him to beat­ Hamilton in every race. Oh and remember that Alonso­ was in receipt of this data apparently but did not­ report it!

As for the Spa race - I pointed out that­ Kimi hardly lost an advantage given his swift­ re-overtaking. Oh and the rules say that a re-pass­ must be allowed in such an off track manouevre and this­ is what Hamilton did - and that it was OK was confirmed­ by the Race Director.

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weaver, I am well aware who stole proprietary­ technology from Ferrari. As I mentioned earlier, it was­ a former loyal McLaren employee that maintained close­ ties with Newey and the other criminals from McLaren.­ He was a British citizen that came to the Ferrari team­ to work with Ross Brawn. He became disgruntled when­ Brawn left Ferrari so he decided to steal $100m of­ industrial secrets and turned them over to his friends­ at McLaren. As for who has the better cars, look at the­ constructors points moron, Its laughable, McLaren would­ be running neck and neck with Toro Rosso without the­ stolen Ferrari technology. Don't be naive, they are­ absolutely using the ill gotten booty or the ill booten­ gotti. As for the huge fine they paid, IT WASN'T­ ENOUGH! McLaren executives should be serving time in­ prison for industrial espionage. McLaren had possession­ of stolen property worth $100 of millions of dollars­ and said nothing untll they were caught. Alonso­ admitted under oath that McLaren were adding Ferrari­ created design to the McLaren cars LAST YEAR! He told­ investigators and the courts that he watched McLaren­ technicians add new aro-dynamic packages created­ directly from the stolen Ferrari documents and this­ would put them on par with Ferrari. McLaren settled for­ $50m because the scandal would have destroyed McLaren­ forever, and I do mean forever. Do you remember how­ last year started, Ferrari dominated the first 4 races­ of 07'. winning 3 of 4 and I believe finishing 1-2­ in two of the four races. Then what happened? McLaren­ all of a sudden became competitive for several races­ and began competing for the championship. We all know­ what happened next. Shameful the Brits have no dignity.­ On the most recent incident, suffice it to say your­ comments are not inaccurate and irrelevant. Its not­ about Kimi overtaking or re-taking Hamilton, IT'S­ ABOUT THE ADVANTAGE HAMILTON GAINED BY CUTTING THE­ CORNER. Its about the RULES. The same one's you all­ screamed about when Shumi. violated them.

Hello whoppa12 = some data was stolen last year by a­ FERRARI employee who obviously thought so little of­ them he wanted to try and pull them down! Either that­ or Ferrari engineered the whole thing to discredit­ McLaren - much more likely!

Oh and as for whether­ Hamilton could have braked - well if he had done he­ would almost certainly have lost the back end of the­ car and swiped Kimi and himself off the track - would­ you have preferred that to happen and possibly injure­ both of them?

Some of you people here are a joke. What has this kid­ done to piss you off so much?
"He's­ arrogent" So are a bunch of other sports and­ entertainment celebs. So What??
"He's­ agressive"And Shumi wasn't?? Big deal.­ "He was thrust into the limelight too fast".­ Too fast? He proved last year that he was better than­ most of the field only
losing the championship by 1­ point and if you can be honest you'll have to admit­ that rookie mistakes cost him the championship not his­ driving ability.I've been reading the F1 forums for­ awhile now and you people were moaning about Hamilton­ long before
he turned a wheel in F1. Really sad.­ You're doing the same thing to Hamilton that­ we
Americans are doing to Obama. You hate to see him­ come out on top no matter how good
he'd be for the­ sport and in our case,the country.
Get a grip­ Europe,you're starting to look as backwards as you­ claim us Americans are.

lewis had 3 options
1. Crash in Kimi - spoilt the race­ like in Canada
2. Cut the chicane - new experience and­ got his lesson
3. ***BRAKE*** - i think he does not­ know about this because of his arrogance

i havent seen­ any reactions from Webber's dad because of the­ 25seconds penalty... give Vettel a ferrari car, he will­ show lewis whos the boss

LH cut the chicane, was he unable to break preventing­ his car off the track ???

racist are the comments of­ the McLaren fans, if it involves ferrari then it MUST­ be cheat and mafia...obviuosly Max Mosley is a sicilian­ godfather and Bernie a don from
brooklyn....who stole­ Ferrari designs last year ? a bunch of brits paid by­ German Mercedes Benz..AUFWIDERSEHEN !!!!

The decision doesn't, and shouldn't, look at­ who should have won the race. The decision is looking­ at an incident and determines the penalty for that­ incident. What that penalty causes, as far as race­ results are concerned, should not affect the­ decision.

All the pro Lewis comments are asking the­ officials to consider who should have won the race, and­ base their assessment on that. At the same time, many­ commentators are against making decisions based on the­ colour of the car. So make up your minds - fair­ decisions based on the incident, or subjective­ assessments?

Regardless of wether Lewis had an advantage or not,
A­ little further on after taking the lead Lewis went off­ and Kimi took the lead.
THEN Kimi spun twice finishing­ up in the wall.
Even if Lewis didn't take the lead­ at the first corner he STILL would have won the­ race.
The only way Kimi could have won the race was to­ pit and change into wets as soon as the rain­ started.

Come on FIA reverse this decision that­ EVERYONE disagrees with.

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