Whoa Ginger Gitt, I think Senna was much more of a primadonna than Prost ever was.

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ginger_gitt : thanks ginger .. i'll put that away with my " pre-flight check list " for the space shuttle.

SlimJ: Go to the link "message boards" in the top right corner of the page, chose general discussion (or something along those lines) on the new page, then choose any topic. Below the first post, click to "reply" to the post, and below the type box that appears you have the option to change the name that appears below your posts and add a photo. From that point, just follow the links as they are written to upload a photo/picture of your choice.

is there a site/forum that is muppet free? i'm asking because sometimes this place becomes intolerable.

Shelby: Not all successful drivers become primadonnas. While Alonso has, and before him Prost did, and you could argue his "must win" clause made Schumi one. You can't say Hakkinen was, or Mansell or Senna. So the question is what pairing would you have prefered from the past - Prost and Patrese, or Senna and Mansell? You can show the primadonnas the door and still win championships.

Slim, nobody expected anything from Hamilton until 2010! I even remember Ron saying before Melbourne 2007 he has to keep his head down for two or three years and try not to crash too much.

ginger_gitt : i believe that first of all you would have to have a standard by which to judge . In a perfect car Jacques Villeneuve shone brightly but he failed miserably against miserable cars with drivers not perceived to be as good as Jacques.Without a way to rate drivers equally the rest becomes perception.

ginger gitt. yeah' i realise that and also the possibility that he can do all the grunt work testing and so on makes sense but the quality of the driving i've seen from him is sometimes so bad that surely old flav' would be better off taking his chances with a new driver and should he prove worth his weight in momo steering wheels will be brought into the briatore management stable and sold on.

i guess i just don't get it with piquet at all. especially the stropping. that would make my blood boil and i'd run him down the road purely on the basis he was trashing my motorhome (if you like) because in effect he couldn't cut the mustard. prima donnadom would be scarce in my team...as would podiums i guess !!!

ginger_gitt :  a little off topic here but maybe you can help . I've tried for the last day to add a picture so that those here will know my posts from anyone trying to screw up the forum . aany help greatfully appreciated .. I have tried to use a picture from my own didgital photos without luck

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Its a shame that Piquet (or any other driver for that mattter) can be mediocre* and still get a decent race seat, when quality drivers (whether new or old) can't get the seats the deserve.

* = I use the term mediocre in measurement against other F1 drivers like Alonso, Hamilton, Raikkonen or Vettel. I think we need to make it clear that he isn't mediocre in comparison to us mortals as I'm pretty sure he can do better than any of us, even if he is a long way behind his peers.

Rabbit: did anyone really believe that Lewis would walk right in and tip the apple cart as you say . If so , why did McLarens even hire Alonso in the first place unless they were buying up the competition so to speak. F1 is a funny world and no one really knows how it will unfold

Slim- Probably both I would imagine. When his seat was announced for 2007 a lot of people pointed on the moves up the motorsport ladders weren't exactly based on his results, with a couple even openly saying he traded on his name and his Dad's money. But you can also bet 100% he kept his seat because he wasn't going to upset Alonso's apple cart!

not often you see the words "piquet" & "talent" in the same sentence :=))

Marion why do you keep repeating yourself? I used to enjoy your humour but you havent posted anything new for ages. Come on my witty Peruvian give us somthing fresh.

Ginger Gitt,you're right but they do need a quality back up man to the "sainted" Fernando and Piquet definately isn't it. I was disappointed Renault re-appointed him in preference to a good rookie, but maybe the "star" vetoed that after his traumas last time. Shame because there are some good youngsters knocking on the doors.

ginger_gitt : I would think that the Piquet name has more to do with being in the seat then talent.

HE LOST ALL RESPECT FROM THE DRIVERS
Then hes team mclaren cheat in stealing top f1 secrets in what was the biggest spy scandal in f1 history!!
They should of been banned for long Time but continued and so did mr hamiltons son continue bashing other drivers out of way in hes strive for the ultimate prize the F1 TITLE..
Soon came end of season and with all the bashing and stealing secrets from mclaren mr hamiltons son had blown it all again..OH NO HES FATHER CRY,,
OOHHH but wait a min ,, suddenly out of nowhere from over the horizon,
NO SURELY IT CAN NOT BE!!! YES ITS HIM DADDY ITS HIM DADDY!! cried baby hamilton

YES YES ITS FATHER GLOCK DADDY ITS FATHER GLOCK and the little boys dream came true...out of nowhare like an ALIEN arriving from Mars,,,faher glock had deliverd the ultimate prize to Mr hamiltons son....but the cost was so severve it ended forever F1 as we no it.

MCLAREN CHEATS.....MR HAMILTON SON CHEAT AND BASHER...2007 2008 2009 CHEATS

Shelby: The fact that Piquet isn't as good as Lewis in comparison to Fernando could be why he's still got a seat next season. If he'd been able to keep up with or even beat Alonso Renault may have shown him the door.

marion,your a @#$%