Toyota reconsider F1 presence

Eurosport - Sat, 09 May 20:58:00 2009

Toyota will not enter next year's Formula One World Championship unless new rules published by the governing body are changed, according to motorsport president John Howett.

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"If nothing changes, we won't be submitting an entry," he told Reuters at the Spanish Grand Prix when asked about a May 29 deadline.

"But I don't think that is a unique opinion among other competitors."

Howett is vice-chairman of the Formula One Teams' Association, presided over by Ferrari's president Luca di Montezemolo, a firm critic of the governing body' plans to introduce an optional £40 million budget cap in 2010.

The governing FIA want the cap to encourage new teams to enter and also keep the existing 10 teams on the starting grid after Honda's abrupt departure last December.

The plan would allow capped teams to operate with far greater technical freedom than those continuing with unlimited budgets.

Montezemolo has warned it would create a two-tier championship that could be "fundamentally unfair and perhaps even biased".

The FIA set the deadline last week when the regulations were published and said all teams wishing to compete in 2010 must state whether they wanted a cap or not.

Howett said Cologne-based Toyota, who have yet to win a race since their debut in 2002, wanted a level playing field.

"I think it's very clear that with a double tier championship, you have to go for the £40m cap because the (capped) cars will be quicker," he said.

"As a corporation it's not only budget, it's about the value of Formula One. And we think the double tier series is not the right direction."

Howett said Toyota were concerned that the correct procedures should be followed.

"The regulations were announced but if you read the regulations, there is a proper process that should be followed and our understanding is that that hasn't been done," he said.

"There are a number of issues that need to be clarified before we can enter."

FOTA met to discuss the situation last Wednesday and called for urgent talks with the governing body, whose president Max Mosley abandoned plans to attend the Spanish race after the death of his son Alexander last week.

Howett said Toyota, who also provide Williams with engines, would like to remain in F1 but had alternatives.

"We have social issues with our people," he said. "A £40m budget means we would have to make a huge number of people redundant.

"And there are other categories that we could consider where we may be able to operate in a completely different manner.

"We would love to stay here and we want to compete in the premier level of motorsport. But I think it has to be said that given the current situation as we stand today, it is impossible to submit an entry."

Howett said FOTA had taken huge steps to agree cost cuts among the teams and pointed out that the cap would still involve considerable additional expense for teams since drivers' salaries and hospitality were not included.

"We welcome, as Toyota and as FOTA, new entrants," he said. "It's purely that faced with the current situation, very simply we can't enter."

The Briton could not be sure that the situation would be resolved satisfactorily.

"It's beyond our control," he said. "I used to believe that common sense would prevail, but I have to say that I'm becoming more pessimistic that it does."

Reuters

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  1. Seems like the FIA are out to smash FOTA; they see them­ as too much of a threat. Yes, it is about time the fans­ stood up to be counted and F1 was returned to the­ ideals of it's founders, not the dictates of the­ "governing body".
    On the Yahoo F1 message­ boards there is a thread called Petition, if you are­ serious about no more draconian intervention from Max­ and Co, follow the link and see what it says; some of­ you may even decide to sign it.

    From GRAHAM J, on Sun 10 May 7:32PM
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    Hello my little f1 buddies, it marnio here from­­­­ peru.
    it good toyota leave the f1. they make the­ rubbish car. no one in their right the mind would buy­ the toyoya car, they very very very very boring car.­ they make the electric car-where the fun in­ that?
    sooner they go from the f1 the better.
    i now also­ emplore­ the men from the mercedes to­­ give up on the­ mclaren­ losers and stick to the brawn­­ men. they not­ the­ criminals.

    From marnio from peru, on Sun 10 May 11:58AM
  3. Russell P, the problem is there is NO money. All the­ car companies are making major loses. See my posting­ no.6. When you see the likes of Toyota, BMW and­ Mercedes making loses and unions telling their bosses­ to pull the plug on F1 you know you have a problem. If­ F1 is a that forefront on car technology then lets see­ if they can push this technology to a new level with­ out spend a 100 million, but only spending 40 Million. ­ Which of the teams is going to try technology like­ Hydrogen? We all know electric cars is not the way­ forward, so who is going to have the balls to try it?

    From Johnny Bop, on Sun 10 May 11:31AM
  4. i always thought that F1
    was the forefront of design­ and innovation of new concepts that filter down to cars­ we drive on the road
    for example if it was not for F1­ when would road cars have got paddle gear­ change
    traction control the list is endless over the­ last decades
    take away the ability (money) to test­ such new designs in the world of F1 and then what­ ???
    its got to have a knock on effect
    I DO NOT GET­ THIS CAP RUBBISH AS FOR A TWO TIER GRID WE ALREADY­ HAVE IT ITS CALLED F1 THEN F2
    AND SO ON DOWN TO RACING­ A BANGER IN STOCK CAR
    if a manufacturer has the cash­ to spend let them if they have not they cannot simple­
    look a Subaru highly successful in rally and sell­ road cars because of it BUT HAVE RALLY CARS GOT­ TECHNOLOGY FROM F1
    I KNOW SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE­ ABOUT THE COST
    BUT IN THE END MONEY MAKES THE WORLD­ GO ROUND
    WHAT IS NEEDED IN F1 IS 15 TEAMS WITH­ BOTTOMLESS POCKETS THERE HAS TO BE 15 COMPANY'S IN­ THE WORLD THAT CAN AFFORD IT (LOOK AT MAN CITY BERNIE­ THE OWNERS WOULD PAY 100MILLION FOR ONE PLAYER WHO­ COULD GET INJURED AND NOT PLAY FOR MONTHS)
    40 MILLION­ CAP... MANY FOOTBALL TEAMS RUN HIGHER BUDGETS

    From Russell P, on Sun 10 May 10:44AM
  5. It is clear that it is time that the governance of the­ sport be put into new hands. Without criticism of what­ has gone before - it's just simply just time to­ take a step into the realities of 2010 and beyond.. How­ about Sir Richard Branson heading up a corporation of­ eclectic interests, owning and managing both commercial­ rights for the sport and acting as its governing body? ­ Its charter would be to run, for a profit (maybe Carlos­ Gohsn could help here), the ultimate in public events­ providing the best the world has to offer in relevant­ automotive technology development, advertising­ opportunities, exhibition of sporting skills and­ entertainment. The corporation would have­ representation from manufacturers, commercial teams,­ energy companies - you name it. I could see our sport­ thriving and growing under this scenario.

    From Greg, on Sun 10 May 9:18AM
  6. sdcharger F1 cannot survive with what Mad max and­ bugger bernie want to do to F1 it will create two­ tiers. spend 40M and garanteed 2-3 seconds faster than­ teams who spend more. So i hear people say well if you­ can go faster for less why not. Because the teams lose­ the oe thing manufacturers want and need the ability to­ show their development and inovation skills both of­ which translate to great marketing assets. As soon as­ they manage to bring in a 40M cap they will then want­ to reduce the amounts that are awarded in prizes after­ all why give Ferrari 80M when it only costs 40M to race­ for the year. It will be the same for all teams bernie­ and max just see it as a great way to keep even more­ money while reducing F1 from the pinicle of motorsport­ to a fomula racing series. there are enough formula­ racing series and we all know how popular they are­ anyone watch A1?

    From Demo, on Sun 10 May 8:48AM
  7. listen up everyone, its time we all stopped venting on­ yahoo and sent our messages as fans to the FIA. If we­ all said we were going to switch off and support­ something else, and the teams all said they were going­ to walk away, then Mad Max And Bernie Bling would have­ to change. Lets try that.............. Its called power­ of the people

    From kiwibuild, on Sun 10 May 8:01AM
  8. Surely this will also drive away major sponsors, if u­ can afford to back teams who run well into the £300­ million mark then you sure as hell can afford £40­ million which could lead to single sponsors of a team,­ why share when you could have your logos alone on a­ car, and with limited space where would other major­ sponsors go who couldn't buy space?

    From Mick, on Sun 10 May 7:32AM
  9. Another one bites the dust. Why is there a budget­ squeeze , because Bernie and Max want more money, There­ money grabbing has ruined F1.
    Wake up teams.
    if you all­ say no then they wil listen otherwise you will have no­ sponsors anyway,

    From hotrijder7, on Sun 10 May 6:42AM
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    FERRARI PRESIDENT IS RIGHT CORRECT RIGHT

    CONVICTED­ SEX PERVERT OAP MAD MAX MOSSELLEY IS......NOT..RIGHT

    From simioni44, on Sun 10 May 4:03AM
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    SUPREME SMOOTH DRIVING BUTTON FOR ANOTHER WELL EARNED­ VICTORY

    OTHERS TO TRAIL HOME IN HIS SLIPSTREAM

    From simioni44, on Sun 10 May 4:01AM
  12. This sport needs to serve many, significantly the­ manufacturers who participate to sell more cars. They­ seek to do this by demonstrating superiority in­ engineerng, development of new technologies and by­ cultivating brand loyalty as creatively as they can. F1­ is not a spec race series, nor should it be. If the­ manufacturers can't get this opportunity to their­ satisfaction, they can't justify their­ participation to shareholders - they won't even­ try. They need a bigger say in the 'formula'­ and the rules. Cost control is best implemented via­ the formula, not by arbitrary caps set by an­ independent governing body. If this means we need a­ new series with new governance and management - so be­ it.

    From Greg, on Sun 10 May 3:40AM
  13. Toyota have barely made the biggest splash, and as this­ move is being suggested to encourage more privateer­ teams into the sport, so long as they are replaced by­ a few new teams, who really cares?

    Teams like jordan­ and minardi could not survive in the sport these days,­ which has simply become a corporate budget shoot-out -­ if you have to live on your sponsorship and prize money­ (ie by the quality of your performance), as opposed to­ the sales of toyota hatchbacks, fiat tractors or soft­ drinks, you are screwed.

    More teams, closer­ performance, better racing = good.

    From Shaun DavidC, on Sun 10 May 2:43AM
  14. If Toyota can't make a formula one team work, what­ are the prospects for the smaller manufacturers? I­ hope Truli and Glock can make the best of this race in­ Barcelona and the rest of the season. I fear that if­ the teams break away, they will have a Europe only race­ series. With restricted budgets and road trips to the­ European tracks only. The fly away races might be left­ to Bernie and his ego. Hopefully all parties can come­ to an agreement, but this looks ominous.

    From dckali, on Sun 10 May 2:08AM
  15. It would make no difference if the teams break away­ from F1. Toyota are screwed they have made a 3.3­ Billion euro loss, BMW have made 128 Million loss. The­ people at the top of these companies are now worried­ about their companies folding. So do you think they­ are now interested in throwing Millions at F1 or at any­ other kind of series. Mercedes are having problems with­ their union workers. The unions want Mercedes to pull­ out of F1. For the Ferrari fans, their owners FIAT are­ interested in buying into to Chrysler and Opel. So do­ you think a company that is looking to buy into 2­ companies is looking at throwing Millions of euros into­ F1? The only way to keep the owners of these teams­ interested is setting a budget. The teams do not like­ it, but if the owners say differently then they will­ have to obey.

    From Johnny Bop, on Sun 10 May 12:31AM
  16. as always, it needs a Japanese "base" to do­ something like this. Lackeys like Briatore and­ Montezemolo talk the talk but don`t walk the walk.
    What­ a joke Formula One is becoming.

    From Sake, on Sun 10 May 12:30AM
  17. I would dearly love to see the teams break away from­ FOM AND FIA or at least reinvent FIA.
    Unfortunately­ they had the chance and could not all agree; as usual­ Ferrari and Briatore were Bernies buddies, and I­ suspect his “Provocateurs” in the team camp.
    Bernie CAN­ NOT and DOES NOT own the rights to the names FI or­ Formula One.
    He does own the rights to Formula One­ Management and FOM, which are both tainted by his­ presence.
    So a new F1/Formula One could indeed be­ formed.
    What we don’t know is; how he has rigged the­ contracts he had the teams sign a couple of years back;­ because Ferrari held out for their “80 million pieces­ of silver”. - Remember?

    From Walking quiet, on Sat 9 May 11:17PM
  18. F1 cannot survive without some sort of budget cap. In a­ few years, there will only be 4 or 5 big manufacturer­ teams on the grid, with the smaller teams financially­ out of business. If Toyota and even Ferrari believe­ that they connot be competitive on a level playing­ field, they do indeed need to go and leave the racing­ to those that want to actually earn a championship, not­ buy none.

    From sdcharger717, on Sat 9 May 11:01PM
  19. FOTA have the teams, the tracks don't race the­ cars do, so FOTA should bit the bullit and break away­ from Bernie. We will all follow them it does not matter­ what the Top GP is called as long as we and the teams­ have the sport that we love, and, do not let Bernie and­ Max take it by the neck and wring the life out of it.­
    They are two Men, rich Men, they will survive without­ F1!

    From pauljgregory, on Sat 9 May 10:48PM
  20. Hardly an incentive for the big teams with Toyota­ coming on song now.

    From wizzo, on Sat 9 May 10:22PM
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