Eurosport - Mon, 10 May 19:00:00 2010
Formula One teams have agreed to ban from 2011 the so-called 'F-duct' pioneered controversially by McLaren this season to give Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button a straight-line speed advantage.
Other teams, notably Ferrari in Spain this weekend, have rushed out their own versions of the system triggering fears for safety as well as an expensive new 'arms race' just when the sport is trying to slash costs.
The controversy has echoed last season's furore over the use of double-diffusers, now adopted by all teams but also outlawed for 2011.
The systems appear to be operated by drivers temporarily diverting the airflow to stiffen the rear wing and reduce drag by blocking a vent in the cockpit with their hands or knees.
Ferrari's double world champion Fernando Alonso could be seen taking a hand off the steering wheel while accelerating at around 300kph down the Barcelona straight.
"It's a clever piece of engineering and hats off to the guys who invented it but some of the solutions this weekend look a little bit marginal when I see drivers driving with fingertips and no hands basically," said Red Bull team boss Christian Horner.
"I think there is a safety issue and a cost issue to take into account," he said.
The ban decision came at a meeting of the Formula One Teams Association on Sunday. Horner said: "The majority voted through not to have it next year."
Mercedes team chief executive Nick Fry said the systems had to be "nipped in the bud" because developments could prove even riskier and they also had no applications to the kind of cars driven by ordinary people.
"By the end of this year I know that we, and I'm sure most of the other teams, will have an F-duct on their car and I'm sure that just neutralises the advantage of having it," he told said.
"I think on F-duct in particular there are other ideas which one can come up with and the engineers have already come up with which are even zanier than that.
"When I look at some of the things our engineers have come up with and which on the face of it apply the same principles, they are zany in the extreme," added Fry, who has seven times world champion Michael Schumacher and Nico Rosberg as his drivers.
"I know its disappointing for those that invent these ideas but I think what people have got to get used to is that, like the double-diffuser, they may be fairly short-lived."
Brawn GP, the team Mercedes bought last year, won both titles last year thanks in large part to the double-diffuser that they pioneered and that helped Button win six of the first seven races.
By mid-season, the other teams had caught up but by then it was too late.
"If it isn't a useful technology then it comes off," declared Fry. "What we should be encouraging is stuff we can use elsewhere and I am personally a big proponent of KERS (the kinetic energy recovery system) because of that."
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I installed an F-duct on my Honda Accord. Now I'm getting to work 2/10ths of a second quicker in the morning. This has allowed me more time to pursue my other interests. So, I can't speak for the Formula 1 drivers, but speaking for myself, the F duct has definately improved the quality of my life.
It make me laugh we're arguing about safety here when a driver has no hands on the wheel for a few seconds. Come on, do we think the likes of FA are not capable of doing this. For us mere mortals it would be an impossible task, these guys are virtually superhuman. Let them get on with it for FGS.
OK children I'll use small words so you can understand. It is a safety issue. They are driving with one hand or even just the finger tips of one hand. Now go back to Malaysia and recall Ham & Petrov swerving down the straight.
Or maybe you would find it acceptable if instead of letting go of the steetng device, the drivers just needed to loosen their safety belts so they could slide down in the seat and use their helmet to block a vent because it was found that a larger vent was more efficient.
Use yor brains people. Unless they rescInd the rule allowing mechanical manipulation of aerodynamics, this is not a safely implementable technology.
You McClaren worshipers can cry conspiracy all you wish, but they too voted to not use the system next year. This is an agreement of the teams not a mandate by the FIA. Can you not read?
The reason FOTA has decided to "ban" F-ducts is, McLaren has already designed a new trick, to be implemented next year. Since everyone will already have an F-duct, or blown wing as Ferrari calls it, there will be no advantage. So their NEW trick will then again give them an advantage until everyone copies it... Now all they have to do is figure out what is making the RED BULL cars so fast...
Well isn't that a stupid move. As all the teams are developing it this season, the cost of having it next season is zero. So how is dropping it at the end of the season going to save money? It isn't, it will in fact increase costs because the cars will have to take off the part and that will increase costs next year as they design through the void it left behind. Just allow them to put anything on the cars they want and limit the amount of fuel they carry... let them use turbo and super chargers if they want or jet engines... just limit the fuel and you would have true innovation and much better racing than the current glorified spec racing.
@carl
The Spirit of the rules is very important, and that is why the teams have agreed not to pursue this. I believe this must be a unanimous decision by the teams.
In this case the implementation is a bordering on dangerous. I am not against new technology, but this is a safety issue. As I wrote in my previous post the proper way to do this is with a control circuit and not having the driver play "look ma, no hands". However the rules regarding systems which manipulate aerodynamics are quite clear and well established.
To Peter C
As you say 'getting lapped is going to have an effect on you'r overall pace'
That's the point, these new guys do not have the overall pace to prevent getting lapped! Yes it does create good overtaking opportunities, but what is most concerning is the safety aspect! It is a lot like entering a 'donkey' in the Kentucky derby!
As I said before, these 'newbies' have to learn, but I don't think the risk is worth the reward! The new cars are too slow, the rookie drivers that are in them, are posing to much of a safety risk! Their HAS to be a safer way....
Barry
Barry the slow cars would fall into the 110% (ish)...what I think you fail to see is that when a slower car is lapped then it's lap has to be even slower...getting out of the way 30 or 40 times a race is going to have an effect on your overall pace, added to the fact that it allows a leading driver a chance to pounce on another to gain a place perhaps we should see them as 'an overtaking opportunity'.
What the FIA and the constructors need to look at is putting numbers to the disturbance behind an F1 car and setting regulations to reduce the distance of disturbance to a following car. and as regards to Downforce...stipulate a maximum and test it.
Instead of all this garbage about 'banning this, banning that', why doesn't F1/FIA do something that is usefull! You have 3 new teams this year, that 'can't get out of their own way', yet a rule to restrict advances to make a car faster are outlawed!
You have 3 teams,(6 cars), Lotus/SRT/Virgin, that are not only incredibably slow, they ARE dangerous. In Spain you had divers of the 'better' cars saying they lapped these guys 2 or 3 times! Instead of 'banning' the F-duct, or anything else, why don't these people impliment MINIMUM requirements for these cars to compete! The 110% rule would do that nicely! Racing is dangerous enough without havind to deal with 'rolling chicanes'
What's with all this 'spirit of the rules' rubbish ?? If it's legal, it's LEGAL...end of. 'Spirit of the rules' seems to mean 'we haven't got it yet or we didn't think of it so no one can have it'.
If we ban technological breakthroughs to mae the cars of the team that think of it faster then we may as well all have the same car and call it Indy Racing.
No thanks !!
Bad news then if that techno is not allowed anymore. I thought it was about finding right formula-solutions to make your car faster. Ah well something else will contravene the rules for sure.
What you seem to be missing is that the F-Duct is an attempt to skirt the rules regarding the manipulation of aerodynamics. Obviously the correct way to do it is with a driver controlled button, or maybe even computer controlled, but that is not allowed. As a work-around a driver vent is covered/uncovered to change the air flow. so, while it is technically legal, it is not in the spirit of the rules.
With regard to KERS, it is a very relevant technology. For road cars it will start as a means of efficiency. Commercial vehicles such as busses are already using a system.
Paul at 14: You're absolutely right. F1 has become a farce when it claims to be the pinnacle of racing technology when every new development infrnges some rule of some kind. I can't imagine what Coln Chapman or Ken Tyrrell would think, I'd love to know what Gordon Murray and John Barnard think of the current setup and while Adrian Newey is an exceptional designer he must feel frustrated by the handcuffs the FIA insist on doling out. One man's innovator is another mans cheater but to ban something becuase someone else didn't think of it is just stupid. How can F1 call itself a racing sport when all it is trying to do is to constantly slow down the cars? Yes I know that cost is an issue but no wonder the American have no interest in F1 when it stifles innovation on one hand while looking for cash from the customer to race cars that are going backwards.
Joe the problem is not that one hand is used to cover up the hole, but that the driver is also using the other hand at the same time to change the dials on the steering wheel, and there were several points durng the race, when there were no hands on the wheel, that is the safety issue, no hands not one hand
Didn't drivers use to have to shift with one hand while driving with the other??? So how come now it's unsafe to do so. It seems taking your hand off the steering wheel only once or twice a lap is nothing...........
Fishblue6 -- FIA is not banning, nor calling for a ban! Read the article! Or have you NOT a firm grasp on the english language? The text clearly states:
---------------- "Formula One teams have agreed to ban from 2011 the so-called 'F-duct' ..." "The ban decision came at a meeting of the Formula One Teams Association on Sunday." ---------
--- There is not ONE reference to the FIA at all. ----
Pull your paranoid head out of your a&&. There is no conspiracy.
Banning technology is dumb.
"Brawn GP, the team Mercedes bought last year, won both titles last year thanks in large part to the double-diffuser that they pioneered and that helped Button win six of the first seven races.
By mid-season, the other teams had caught up but by then it was too late."
I love how the article admits that the car won Button the world championship. Top notch writing!
OhenA . you do talk pants dont you. nobody fears mcmoaner . hes turned into a joke spends more time hugging the walls or moaning then anything else. the guy has lost the plot and is cracking under pressure because he cant handle losing. he blames everyone else apart from himself for his @#$% result this year. its never his mistake, its the car or the teams fault, or its another drivers fault. nobody fears him
knobheads
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