the laugh is if it was the other way and newcastle got the penalty nothing would have been said . why dont managers stop wining about decisions against them when they say nothing when it goes for them ,, maybe the managers are the mickey mouses ,football is a great game and errors happen and thats life , shall we stop the game all the time check the replay and while that is on have some adverts chucked in as what they do in america cos thats what tv wants ? cos they can make money in adverts in the game , the great game of football will be ruined , so you mickey mouse managers stop moaning when it goes against you ,its life get on with it ,

Good refereeing results in good football being played; good refereeing results managers not making excuses about poor refereeing that affected the outcome of games and not calling referees "Mickey Mouse". Good refereeing results in RESPECT. FA, UEFA, and FIFA. You need to change an antiquated system and allow more referees and technology to help referees.

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Wonder what words poor Joe offered Michael for missing the sitter from six yards out?

calling someone who is mickey mouse is hardly a rant like!
come on its hardly an offensive comment!!! like i see everyone is against newcastle again.

Managers like Kinnear should look at themselves before berating officials. If the ref. is Mickey Mouse then perhaps Joe is Goofy.
Foul mouth managers who employ and condone people like Barton are perhaps not good enough to judge others so harshly.

The FA want everyone to be nice to the ref. true with out them there wouldn't be a match, but there has to be some kind of punishment for a poor ref. if a person has a bad day fine everyone does, and sometimes they really are obstructed. The FA needs to raise its standards this isn't some grass roots league.

Donald Duck would be more appropriate from Joe. Leave him alone for a bit please, he is having a go with instuctions only from far away in the smoke. The Toon will make it OK

Agree with the boys about the video playback and also bring in the rugby style sin bin to shut up the mouthing.

Dat4kay, I agree with your 4th eye suggestion especially with the top flight of English football being a serious mult million pound industry but there's no way any footballer who played at some profesional level could be a referee purely for the reason that thier impartiality couldn't be garaunteed. Referees always whinge about wanting respect but maybe if they weren't (for the large part) incompetent waste of spaces, they'd be given some

footballers going onto be ref's, dont make me laugh.
The ref's dont earn enough.
somebody will say next that they only play for the love of the game.

Quite agree with the IT, its been proven in Rugby and wouldnt hold up the game more than the players harrassment off the ref's.

The managers are right though, its a case of jobs, promotion or demotion. The ref's are making millon pound decisions out on the pitch

Football is now a multi million pound industry. It's time a fourth eye with IT technology is used.
Managers are very good at spotting incidents in their favour but how often do they conveniently not see any incidents against them. That always amuses me. Even with replays how often to we argue whether or not it was a free kick or a penalty even with replays.
There is a question that footballers should go on to be ref. How many go on to do that after seeing the abuse the Ref takes? The lack of footballers going on to be ref should answer the question.

alan k well written although he does have a point to be fair it was blatant foul before the pen. shame owen w*nked all over his chance at the other end, couldnt rele have been mush worse for him...

ref should be told by the fa insted of kinnear

Time for the video ref like with most other sports

funny he didnt complain about the newcastle goal which was shown as 2 yards offside on tv.

Why is it that when managers tell it as it is they are punished and the stupid refs are always right even when they are soooo wrong.
All the FA want is to have @#$% footing managers and players with no backbone well sod them bring back the vinny jones and chopper harris's and get back to proper football.
Man utd fan

It all points to the urgent provision of European refs.

FA are a bunch of gin-swilling megalomaniacs.
The ref was pants, just like they have been all season . . . . . sort it FA.

ts true Joe, refs are a joke nowadays,just like everything else in this country,I personally blame "New Labour" for all this,every since they said that "more women,kids,@#$%,etc should attend games,refs have "Lost the Plot",give me the 80s anyday Joe,you were spot on,the real fans were "Men of Steel"!!!! Shame on you "New Labour Danger, the 80s will rise again!!!!