Talking Point: Best of the rest

Eurosport - Tue, 11 Nov 09:14:00 2008

Who was the best driver never to win the F1 title? Every week during the off-season, we are opening up a discussion point for Formula One fans in conjunction with our online poll. So let us know what you think.

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Here is our eight-man shortlist:

Chris Amon: The last driver from New Zealand to make an impact in Formula One, Amon was the son of a wealthy sheep farmer who arrived on the scene in the 1960s and earned widespread adulation for his fearless approach on the track. He won both the 24-hour races at Le Mans and Daytona, but despite competing in 108 grands prix, he never managed a victory in Formula One.

Rubens Barrichello: Barichello was prolifically successful as a Kart driver, winning the Brazilian title five times before moving on to become champion of Formula Opul, then Formula 3. But since arriving in Formula One the Honda driver has been a nearly man. Barrichello finished fourth in the 2000 World Championship, third in 2001 and came runner-up in both 2002 and 2004.

Gerhard Berger (pictured): The lanky Austrian won his first grand prix with BMW in 1986 and would add eight more driving for Ferrari and McLaren, before a remarkable victory with Benetton in Germany marked his final victory in 1997 - the year he retired. Despite finishing in the top 10 every season from 1986 to 1997, the world title eluded him.

Jacky Ickx: The Belgian arrived on the Formula One scene in 1967 and would finish inside the top 10 of the world championship seven times before competing for the last time at the US Grand Prix in 1979. Ickx won eight times during that time, but will perhaps always be remembered for his six triumphs at the Le Mans 24-Hour race - the last of which came in 1982.

Stirling Moss: The legendary Englishman is regarded by many as the best all-round driver in the history of racing. He won a remarkable 194 races in his career, but despite picking up 16 grand prix victories could never manage a Formula One world championship. Moss finished runner-up four times in succession between 1955 and 1958, but the ultimate prize slipped his grasp.

Ronnie Peterson: Sweden's greatest driver, Peterson made his Formula One debut at the 1970 Monaco Grand Prix and would go on to race 123 times and achieve 10 victories. The 'Superswede' finished runner-up twice in the championship, in 1971 and 1978 - the season that ended with his tragic death at Monza in the Italian Grand Prix.

Carlos Reutemann: The Argentine raced in Formula One between 1972 and 1982, winning 12 times and earning a reputation for his cavalier approach. Reutemann finished in the top 10 of the world championship eight times during his career, coming closest to the title in his penultimate season, when he finished runner-up to Nelson Piquet.

Gilles Villeneuve: Villeneuve made his Formula One debut at the British Grand Prix in 1977 and won for the first time in Canada the following season with Ferrari. The Canadian would triumph five more times, before being killed in a crash during qualifying for the Belgian Grand Prix in 1982. His best finish in the championship was runner-up to Jody Scheckter in 1979.

So vote now in our online poll and let us know your thoughts on the discussion board below.

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  1. Gotcha JayCee!

    From m.e.jenner@..., on Tue 11 Nov 7:20PM
  2. Also have to remember the guys that drove before the last war in the mighty Auto Unions and Mercedes supercharged monsters, @#$% Seaman, Carichiola etc.

    From Mrs Valerie Quigly, on Tue 11 Nov 6:51PM
  3. Elsy pam wallis is jbolam so please just ignore.

    From BigBill, on Tue 11 Nov 6:38PM
  4. Haha Pam

    You trying to sell me books. Hunt and Schumacher never raced against each other.

    From Elsy, on Tue 11 Nov 6:24PM
  5. Moss

    From lmcorson, on Tue 11 Nov 5:21PM
  6. elsy 92
    great book of James Hunt-- he dived into blazing Schumacher crashed car --- released his seatbelt
    & hauled him to safety ___ very brave burning car could have exploded at any time

    The Encyclopedia of F 1 is great value book also for only £4 instead of £20- details of all F 1
    Syon Park garden centre is home of Duke of Northumberland by the river Thames nr RICHMOND {London}
    Lord Hesketh also associated with the manor house attached

    From pam_wallis60, on Tue 11 Nov 5:20PM
  7. well you inspired me to buy 2 books ___ Encyclopedia of F1 ++ James Hunt story
    The local garden Centre Syon Park West London on our doorstep
    is selling both for £4 each instead of £20 each --wonderful Xmas present
    Didn't know Viulleneuve was virtually killed by team mate Pironi {didn't he have seat belt ?? }
    both beautiful illustrated books with details + photos of all F 1 drivers
    James Hunt died of heart attack 15 yrs ago we read --- Both very sad events

    From pam_wallis60, on Tue 11 Nov 5:12PM
  8. Didier Pironi was a pretty good pilot - always exciting to watch.

    From Sgt. Bilko, on Tue 11 Nov 4:18PM
  9. m.e.jenner

    Haha, could not resist, just disappointed that there weren’t more people disagreeing with me!

    pam_wallis60

    I think James Hunt (as well as two others) saved Ronnie Peterson and not Schumacher. Sadly he still died over stupid circumstances (peterson).

    From Elsy, on Tue 11 Nov 4:18PM
  10. Have just read the last sentence Elsy - and we're on for that punch-up after all !!!

    From m.e.jenner@..., on Tue 11 Nov 3:41PM
  11. GOt to be Sir Stirling Moss - perhaps if he hadn't been such a gentleman he'd have cliched it a good many times.

    Incidently - How can it be just luck that Lewis won; however, any winner aways needs to be lucky. But Lewis has been leading the chamionship for most of the 2 years he's been in F1 despite having wins taken off him and rediculous penalties from the FIA.

    From Jason-lee, on Tue 11 Nov 3:28PM
  12. hi Julie
    sorry i'm really ignorant --- WHAT happened to James Hunt please ?

    I've been out of touch now i'm 60 yrs old this year after family duties filled my time

    If you have time please update me about brave star character JAMES -----THANKS

    From pam_wallis60, on Tue 11 Nov 3:22PM
  13. Chris Amom was a great driver and won a non championship race at either Brands or Silverstone, and what about Francoise Cevert? It has to be Rubins though.

    From John W, on Tue 11 Nov 3:14PM
  14. T H A N K S to julie we hope dear ALONSO can be champ again next year if Renault provide 4 HIM
    -

    From pam_wallis60, on Tue 11 Nov 3:14PM
  15. T H A N K Y O U
    The very fact that James Hunt stopped to save the life of Schumacher trapped in his blazing car
    marks him out as an exceptional super character to be cherished & remembered

    From pam_wallis60, on Tue 11 Nov 3:13PM
  16. pam_wallis60: Read the article. If memory serves me right the "babe magnet of industrial strength" Mr James Hunt slipped and skided to the world championship in Japan (1976). The conditions were so bad Niki Lauder refused to race, but James was hungry and brave enough to go for it. Tragic loss, much too young.

    From Julie4Fernando, on Tue 11 Nov 3:02PM
  17. i) Has to Stirling Moss.
    ii) Until you are good enough to challenge them please do not talk about a worst driver to be champion. They are all a lot better than any of us in here.
    Why do so many people continually put these guys down?

    From Julie4Fernando, on Tue 11 Nov 2:57PM
  18. no doubts best of all we LOVED James Hunt in the era of the real amateur -MONEY ment nothing
    only success fun & enjoyment none too TOO tu serious

    WIN or lose he was a champion character who knew how to enjoy life & success
    failure in one race was simply a spur to the next
    Those happy days have long gone unfortunately with so much automation

    plus he alone saved the life of Schumacher when he was trapped in his burning crashed car
    thanks to james he only has severe scars to display and not missing limbs

    BRAVO to a true star CHAMPION

    From pam_wallis60, on Tue 11 Nov 2:55PM
  19. Ooh Elsy, surely not?

    From BigBill, on Tue 11 Nov 2:38PM
  20. I think Rubens Barrichello coz he is really nice and also Jacky Ickx. My husband thinks also Rubens Barrichello and if he was not always Number 2 to Michael Schumacher he could have won the championship. But I don't mind because Schumacher is my idol.

    From ElizabethH, on Tue 11 Nov 2:37PM
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