best of the rest: Moss and DC - both deserved a­ championship - DC had a great debut and a great last­ half of 2000 and first half of 2001....had that been­ the same calendar year, he would have won a­ championship. and moss was just all talent.

worst to­ win a championship - villeneuve jr.

How about another question:
Who was the worst driver to­ win a world championship?

Close call, but it is Stirling Moss.

Again Ginger, I have to agree with you.

I do consider­ Alonso as amongst the best drivers in F1 but with flaws­ (namely a tendency for arrogance & blackmail), but­ my twisted (bit genuine) statistics name him as 4th­ highest points scorer ever, so fair play to him and­ full credit for his achievements.

With all the rule­ changes for next season I do consider him a very real­ title contender, especially with the way Renault­ finished the season.

I am looking forward to it­ already.

Who will win, I'd struggle to decide­ between Hamilton, Massa, Raikonnen, Alonso, Kubica­ & Vettel.

I can't wait.

Scottish C: Only part of what you said that I really­ disagree with is that I don't think Fernando Alonso­ has earnt the right to "look down" on DC,­ he's not been in the sport long enough to earn that­ right. Two more seasons at the top of his game and­ yes, but not yet. And I was merely clarifying that­ Kimi stat, it seems to be one that not alot of people­ knew and has been quoted on threads a few times in­ recent weeks, but is usually inaccurate.

hey marnio from peru, are you stupid? or haven't­ got any logic in your mind? black dude wins it because­ FIA stripped him of a win in spa. and why only get the­ @#$% of glock? how about kubica? why he pushed the­ black kid off the racing line? he has no point of­ winning the race nor any place. its just a sad thing­ that the black kid wins by his lonesome and we have a­ platoon of looser's. Am disgusted at myself being a­ looser here, as I want ferrari to win it all. Wanted­ Massa to win at straight race not with any help from­ the FIA.

Lets have a FORMULA ONE, real grand prix of­ best car in DESIGN; TECHNOLOGY; BEST FUEL; BEST TIRE;­ BEST LUBRICANT.

ginger_gitt, on Mon 10 Nov 11:21PM

"Scottish C:­ It is indeed Kimi being refered too, and it was 23 car­ races (with 13 wins) before joining F1 and a single­ season at Sauber before moving to­ Mclaren."

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Fair play Ginger­ and you are correct, my mistake, Kimi was only 1 season­ at Sauber before coming to McLaren and being beaten to­ 6th by Coulthard in 5th in 2002, which was kinda my­ point, Coulthard's record against his team mates­ isn't too bad.

He was amongst the best of the rest­ against arguably the best driver in the history of F1,­ Schumi, although I consider Jackie Stewart & Jim­ Clark up there with him & Senna.

As for the question that was asked, it is­ unquestionably Stirling Moss.

To the writer of the story, I'd suggest you lead by­ example and read before you submit your stories (maybe­ then others might follow)

Barrichello 3rd and 4th in­ the 2001 World Championship?

Stirling Moss stats are -­ 67 Races, 66 Starts, 16 Wins

Without checking every­ fact, how much more of it is wrong?

Scottish C: It is indeed Kimi being refered too, and­ it was 23 car races (with 13 wins) before joining F1­ and a single season at Sauber before moving to Mclaren.

Moss, Irvine, Villeneuve, Peterson, Coultard, Montoya,­ Zanardi, Jones (either one).

Francois Cevert!

For Ken Tyrrell and Sir Jackie­ Stewert

Gyöngyi K.
Not that unlucky. He's still alive!

Most might not agree but I say Steve McQueen and James­ Garner

Juan Pablo Montoya without a doubt for me...If it was­ 80s, he had it under his belts.his aggressive , strong­ and not very consistant style was for that era.

Jean Alesi, unluckiest driver ever.

Riccardo Patrese

scs3drg, re. DC.

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DC was 2nd­ only to Michael Schumacher in 2001, a field of drivers­ that included Barrichello, Hakkinnen, Montoya &­ Villeneuve.

In reference to a driver who had only­ raced on a track 22 times before, was that Kimi­ Raikonnen? who had only raced on a track 22 time before­ he joined Sauber for 2 seasons? Hmmmm??? Before then­ joining McLaren.

Is that who you mean?

I think you­ need a history lesson.

DC was 3rd in his first full­ year in F1 in 1995.

3rd in 97.
3rd in 98.
4th in­ 99.
3rd in 2000.
2nd in 01.

DC was the top driver at­ McLaren 5 years out of his 9 years at the team, when­ his team mates were 2 times world champion Mika­ Hakkinen & future world Champion Kimi­ Raikonnen.

5th biggest point scorer in the history of­ F1, that's not bad.

What have you achieved in your­ sad pathetic life.

The way I see it there are only 4­ guys who have ever driven racing cars that have the­ privelige of looking down on DC, Michael Schumacher,­ Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna & Fernando­ Alonso.

Lesson over, I hope you enjoyed it as much as­ me.

A$$.

Juan Pablo Montoya was faster than D.C. or Rubens.­ I've only been watching since the late 90's but­ JPM has got to be in the discussion. The only thing the­ man lacked was the ability to be honest with himself­ about his weakness. If he could have kept a cooler head­ he could have won it with Williams.

I have heard that Michael Scumacher when asked this­ question said Eddie Irvine.