Champions League - Euro Club Index: Barcelona's crown slips

Please explain how man city are 5 they have only won­ one cup in 30 years and are out of the cl !!!!!

@ billythekid Barça can beat ANY european teams with­ their 'B' side. They beat Bayern München in­ pre-season, they regularly beat top sides from­ respective countries at the Champions league group­ stages. Its not the Messi, Xavi and Iniesta, but the­ talents that came up from the 'la massia' as­ whole that won Barça so many titles. Also Guardiola and­ Cryuff's influence of the 'tiki taka'­ beautiful football that's in the tradition of­ Barça. Ask any analyst from Spanish football, and­ they'll tell you, that the season behind­ Barça's success is their youth academy, so yeah,­ i'm pretty sure Barça would have been always more­ succesful than them 'Galacticos' losers.

Please explain why Arsenal are higher than spurs. Load­ of utter C**p

The English must keep the English clubs up. Period. ­ Seems Arsenal did well against Milan.

@16 thanks for the compliment :)
completely agree to­ your view that messi is part of barcelona. and he may­ play his full career there, if he is wise enough that ­ is.
but here the debate is about the greates TEAM, and­ it is generally felt that barca depend very heavily on­ messi to win matches.
barcelona and messi can be­ compared to the greek force with achilles , without­ whom they are only as good as any other top European­ club.
xavi and iniesta are surely great players, but­ they cant play like god himself, like messi does.

even­ if its hypothetical, if they are kind enough ,still­ would like to know from barca fans about what they­ think about barcelona without messi

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY RANK DOES TEAMS, BARCA 1ST 10­ PONITS BEYOND REAL MY BE BECAUSE THEY BEAT REAL TWINCE,­ BAYER 4TH... TOTTENHAM 11TH I DON'K HOW TOTTENHAM­ IS 11TH... JUST FORGET IT NOTHING IS REAL!!!!

finally after 4 years real madrid will win the la liga­ and become the best team in the world

@ 13. Alonzo Thats because you failed to read the­ description at the top of the list.

@billythkid the idiot, no one will ever know how many­ trophies Barca would have won without Messi. So­ don't bring nonsense up. Messi is part of Barca. If­ Messi is the reason that Barca won so many trophies, so­ be it, but no one will know anything drifferent, no one­ will know how many trophies Barca would have won­ without Messi, or without Xavi or Iniesta or others.

One match that Barca lost, and eurosport will make sure­ to make a title out of that. Why does eurosport not­ make a title how man utd, cheatsea, liverpool, and­ other clubs that lose points? Barca are still first­ with plenty of points, and they will continue to win.

Barcelona will remain top. I just know it.

i still do not understand why Man Utd is at 3rd when­ they didnt pass to knockouts of CL and are barely­ getting by their Premier matches....as for Barca, well­ the only reason the gap is closing is because Guardiola­ cannot play his original starting 11 because of­ injuries. Wait until they recover 100% (including­ Villa, who's out till the summer) and we will once­ again witness the beauty of the Barca that has been­ dominating football for the last 3 years.

These rankings nevah matha! Barça will always BEAT­ Madrid! Visca Barça!!!

If you just look at current form, this ranking looks­ the most accurate, better than any other ranking.

Dear Barca Fans

I am just curious to know this
Please­­ try to give an honest answer.
"How many trophies­­ do you think Barca would have won in last 3 years if­ Mr­ Lionel Messi was playing for some other­­ team"

Thanks

Hypercube Infostrada. Is that not one of those Russian­ teams owned by an oil zillionaire. Turr Ballackov I­ think he's called or is he the wrestling champion,­ I cant really remember.
Anyhow, its all baloney, how­ can City be above Chelsea based on 8 years worth of­ games. How did they decide that this seasons games are­ worth 20 times those of 3 years ago. Why 20, why not 3­ or 50 times, what is the logic for this weighting.

UEFA­ ranking is a joke, man u at 2 , chelse at at 3,­ RM at 6, below arsenal !!!
this is more real

I fail to see how Arsenal get 30 points for a scrappy­ 1-2 victory over lowly Stoke (or was it Sunderland? I­ always confuse them :S) while Spurs get 17 for a 5-0­ trashing over the PL numbers 5, Newcastle...

im a villa fan and we are not in the top 100 teas in­ europe lol

This doesn't make any sense