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wenger has gotta get firedd

STOP RIGHT NOW WENGER!!!!before you ruin this great­ club ,i've heard this all before ,about clear­ out's & that the club have money to­ spend???.Were simply fed-up,heard it all before for­ 6yrs & counting and to make matters worse!!where­ breaking all the records that arsenal have never got­ this year alone,even before the season is still yet to­ end,what next???We are not going to finish in the top­ six anyway,another record since wenger took over,So ,i­ think we are heading towards a very dark tunnel,get rid­ before we hit the cliffs.First one to go pls( pat­ rice)we need an assistant who can voice matters &­ not just sit like a muppet looking glum like wenger­ throwing bottles,then the big clear-out if it ever­ happens(walcott/arshavin/diaby/rosicky/mersecker/djouru­ o/gibbs/chamakh & all those on loans to clubs­ around the globe.In arsene we rust until he departs.

May be Wenger will stop his funny blog about sport. He­ thinks he is an expert and that is a biog problem.

Julius: far from finished. If you think so i think you­ should take a look 16 places below us...? hello?

Lord of Time, if the Arabs actually gift the money (or­ a player) to City, as opposed to­ ''investing'' in it, then they can get­ whatever player they want. City spending will only stop­ when the Arabs leave. Simples.

I am a gooner, but I can tell you, we are finished­ unless we can take drastic action

Well said LOT! I feel our team is stale, and that is in­ part thanks to Wenger, but none of us know exactly how­ much his hands are tied. Many a report has come out­ from Arsenal as to our situation, yet most on these­ boards ignore them, wanting everything NOW, and wont­ wait. I guess thats a sign of the times. Numerous issue­ are playing a part in relation to Arsenals current­ stature, so just as a reminder lets go over them.
1)­ The Board demand Wenger makes 15 mill profit every­ season. 2) We have stadium debt. 3) we have a shirt­ sponsor deal that is beneficial for the SPONSOR not us,­ 4) We have a wage cap. 5) We have the Financial Fair­ play rules to consider.­
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Weng­ er could have done better in the transfer market. The­ board will feel the pinch if we continue on this road.­ The stadium debt. Plan is that we pay if off by 2015­ (i think that was the initial idea, dunno if its­ changed)
The shirt sponsor deal is currently being­ renegotiated (if it doesnt happen we have to wait till­ 2014)
Wage cap...well its needed in football in­ general, but we probably should look into increasing it­ just a little.
The financial fair play rules will be­ fully in effect by 2014/15 If they actually work the­ way FIFA want them to.
There is a solid working plan­ in place till 2014, when Wengers contract expires, so I­ do not expect him to get the boot before then. (unless­ plastic fans do walk out on the club and force the­ Board to take drastic action)
So I think we should all­ just get behind our team and limit our expectations.­ The plan is until 2014, and if you have a plan stick to­ it! I will remain probably frustrated, but­ understanding till then. If by 204/15 I see no change,­ that's when I will get angry.

I am glad Milan won this one Milan 4 Arsenal 0

so many people saying spend spend spend, hello have you­ forgotten the new fair play rules or are you really­ that stupid, wenger's problem is he is always­ trying to build for the future, but things always gets­ in the way like city offering mega wages, if you want a­ city type team go and support them because this is the­ only season they have a chance with, as of the summer­ they have to sell to buy, but no one will pay the same­ wages therefore the players wont leave, so what if­ arsenal are having a very bad season, but with all the­ problems with injuries and bans at the beginning i say­ arsenal have done well to be 4th, tell me which club in­ the prem could do better with all the injuries and bans­ arsenal have had, arsenal have had major players­ injured, arsenal have not played with a full strength­ team at all this season, granted arsenal were really­ bad against milan but so what, at least arsenal have­ stayed in the CL longer than man utd and man city, also­ look at the team we had, if you put in the injured­ players what sort of team then, for the idiot who still­ reckons wenger has done bad since the likes of adams­ and co, have you forgotten the time we didnt get beat­ at all in the league, the defence was all wengers­ doing, not one was from george graham, also the player­ bashing has got so bad you are bashing players who have­ yet to play more than 15 mins, as for the year no­ title, try waiting 18 years, but in guessing most of­ you are glory hunters who only like arsenal when they­ are on top, so you dont have to say your a man utd fan.

BTW has no one noticed that arsenal have not won­ anything of note since being sponsored by Fly Emirates,­ makes you wonder doesnt it.

this just YET AGAIN proves how laughable the claim of­ "the best league in the world" is! e.p.l.­ high-fliers usually end up getting a mauling from the­ REAL class act leagues,the very best teams of e.p.l.­ get destroyed when they come up against the superior­ skill and quality of barcelona,real madrid,a.c. milan­ and bayern munich, they just dont have what it takes­ any more.
and the morons who persist in believing (if­ they REALLYdo) in that stupid claim are sadly deluded.

Not wanting to put the boot in as I support any­ domestic team playing in Europe, but they were very­ poor indeed. No spirit, no urgency, no pace, no­ gameplan, no idea. Arteta and Song were ballwatching­ passengers that offered no cover for the defence who­ did what they could but were powerless in the face of­ constant attacks. Gibbs and Sagna offered nothing going­ forward and were ordinary at the back. Rosicky must be­ on borrowed time surely, at least I hope so for­ Arsenal's sake - how much possession did he weakly­ surrender? Extremely pedestrian, one-paced with­ diabolical distribution. And Ramsey, what did he do?­ But for a header that sailed over the bar you'd be­ hard pressed to notice him on the pitch. As a result­ Henry and Van Persie were starved of any decent­ service.
I think Wenger is about as good a coach as­ the Gunners can hope for, but clearly he is being­ hampered in the transfer market. They are spending less­ now than 10 years ago!
A question for Arsenal­ supporters in the know out there. Where is the money­ going? Regular top four finishers (SKY bonus money), 15­ straight years in the Champions League earning some­ serious coin, brand spanking new stadium boasting the­ highest ticket prices in the country, huge profits made­ on the likes of Toure, Fabregas, Nasri, Adebayor etc­ and yet the manager is still bargain basement­ shopping!
How long before Van Persie decides enough is­ enough?
Wenger NEEDS to spend - and spend big or I see­ all his good work going down the pan. The biggest­ question for me is, will he jump or finally be­ pushed?
Sad to see. English football's loss will­ someone else'e gain

Wenger has gave us football that was a pleasure to­ watch, but his record is an interesting read. Take a­ look at how many trophies he has won since all the back­ five he inherited have left. Not as impressive as you­ thought, is it.

Almunia, Fabianski, Djourou, Squillaci, Jenkinson,­ Santos, Ramsey, Rosicky, Diaby, Walcott, Arshavin,­ Chamakh, Park, Vela, Bendtner. All draining our club of­ millions of pounds in wages and producing mediocrity at­ best. None would have even made the bench eight years­ ago. This is Arsene's legacy and rebuilt side. I­ think it is time for him to go and please take that­ American tit, Kroenke, with him!!!!

Paul C - totally agree with your assessment of the­ situation matey! Pat Rice hinted to the media at the­ end of last season that he was gonna retire: he should­ actually have done just that, there & then: for­ like Wenger he seems to have run out ideas.
Consider­ Alex Ferguson. He never allows staleness; complacency,­ or inflexibility to breed & fester at Man U, under­ his leadership as a manger. He regularly freshens up­ his coaching staff with new people: who have different ­ revolutionary ideas; approaches; philosophies, and­ knowledge so as to help him keep Man U at the summit of­ our game.
Where is this recognition that he doesn't­ know all the answers, and that he needs to find people­ who do in Arsene Wenger???
Great shout about Tony Adams­ as defensive coach! I'd be more than happy to see­ either him or Martin Keown being given that role.­ Martin still spends a lot of time around the club,­ therefore he could easily do the job.
Besides Dennis­ Bergkamp, I would like to see someone like Ray Parlour­ working with our midfield players, and instilling in­ them (along with Tony and/or Martin) the British­ Bulldog Spirit & attitude they are clearly­ missing.
Ideally I would love to see Viera do the job­ either with, or alongside Parlour. Even though he's­ working for City, I'm sure if Arsenal came begging­ with a substantial financial offer: he would return­ "home": for Arsenal is in his blood!
As for a­ new manager; besides Guardiola (if he choses to stay at­ Barcelona, or to go elsewhere?); I would be more than­ happy with Mourinho - even with all his controversy.­ Also in the frame should be Paul Lambert; Brendan­ Rodgers; Allan Pardew, or maybe even David­ O'Leary??? (now that would be something eh!)

Almunia, Djourou, Squillaci, Mertesecker, Diaby,­ Rosicky, Walcott, Ramsey, Arshavin, Vela, Bendtner,­ Fabianski, Chamakh, Park. Hardly a list of successful­ transfers. None of these would have even made the bench­ eight years ago yet they are paid plenty of money to­ produce mediocrity. Sad to say but I believe Arsene­ should go.

Now Now thats ok this has all just been a bad dream. 4­­ - 0 ha ha

But when the mighty SPURS beat you at home­­ again 5 - 0 thats what you will call a wake up call­­ !!!!

COYS

I think Kroenke should f.u.c.k. off back to the USA and­ let Usmanov and David Dein sort this mess out. Whether­ that is with or without Arsene Wenger I don't care.­ Wouldn't mind Gis Hiddink with Dennis Bergkamp as­ his no.2.

I'm an Arsenal supporter of 43 years (since age of­ 7), so I am used to Arsenal promising much and often­ failing, and sometimes delivering us a bit of glory.­ But the self-delusion that exists in Wenger's mind­ is unbelievable. We have not been a serious title­ challenging side for 5 or 6 years, and we have not even­ been the entertaining side we were known as, for about­ 4 years. So, what is left is a side that has few­ world-class players, and a mass of middle table­ journeymen (Arshavin, Djouro, Rosicky to name a few).­ Ask yourself, which Arsenal players would get into the­ 1st XI of Europe's top 10 clubs? (And if you say­ Walcott, then please seek immediate mental health­ care). I doubt if more than a few would be wanted by­ top half of the table clubs in the Premier League.

I­ don't expect us to win the PL or the CL (we simply­ don't have the money) but I expect us to finish 4th­ in the PL and not embarrass ourselves in the CL.

The­ experiment was entertaining for a while, but it has run­ its course and proven to be based on a false premise.

Wenger should go, and it's reality. I don't­ understand the Arsenal supporters, they should start to­ Demand for him to leave. Mouring is the GOD that­ ARSENAL is waiting for, but he wouldn't like to­ have his bum to be kissed .like Wenger has with present­ ARSENAL supporters. Wenger has to go, there's­ no other alternative.