dont think will m ever watched a rugby game in his life­ must be a football fan take off your english blinkers­ an get behind the boys go for it lions you can win

hylmike

Obviously you are still an arrogant half-wit­ who can't accept anyone disagreeing with your­ biased opinions.

For the record, I think Will M's­ comment is simply looking for a reaction and so far as­ that goes, I would compare it to the drivel you come­ out with most of the time.

Our english players have played some excellent rugby on­ this tour!! i dont know what games you lot have been­ watching!! i suppose if the lions lose you will blame­ on the England players....
for you lot its not about­ the actual game and the best team!! all it is is an­ excuse to slate England.
GET A LIFE!!!

WILL.M., you're a nob mate, I'm English & a­ loyal fan, but this is the LIONS, Woodward cocked up a­ tour 4 years ago because he stuck with what he knew­ & got it very very wrong. It matters not where the­ players come from, if they are good enough to play then­ that's it & I would proudly stand next to any­ celt if i were a lions player & would hope any­ celt would feel the same.. you should really watch­ football as you seem to have the correct size of pea­ for a brain or maybe a wee janet & jon book???..­ This is rugby & as an Englishman i find your­ comments laughable

MON THE LIONS

Think you're missing the point slightly Mark H.­

My retort was to Will M's comment that we should­ drop the "British" from the Lions monica due­ to the amount of "bog trotters etc" on the­ tour, implying that to be truely "British" we­ should have picked more English (possibly even­ Scottish) players to warrant being called­ "British". If the English team had been­ playing better rugby than they currently are then­ I'm sure Geech would have chosen them.

On current­ form there isn't another English player that­ springs to mind that deserves a place on the tour more­ than those already out there.

I agree that a few of­ the players picked for the tour have not come up to the­ expected standard, Po'C & D o'C being prime­ example, Shane Williams is another, but prior to the­ tour they have been the "class" locks amongst­ the home nations when considered as a pairing and Shane­ was lucky to go along at all.

I dare say that Geech is­ rueing the fact that he appointed P o'C as captain­ having seen the way that AWJ & Hines have been­ playing, but he has to make someone captain BEFORE they­ set off for the distant lands. P o'C was one of­ many people who could've successfully carried out­ the captaincy, unfortunatley he's suffered a drop­ in form, but that's not to say that he can't­ recover that form in the 1st test.

For me, the only­ two English players that I feel have warranted a place­ in the starting line up are Mears and Croft. Shaw??­ He's been ok, but nothing outstanding and I'd­ probably have him on the bench if AWJ & Hines were­ to start. Flutey's shown flashes of what he can do­ and it's a @#$% up for me between Monye or Kearney­ for the wing spot as Bowe has cemented his place with­ some awesome displays.

I agree that this is all about­ the BRITISH Lions sticking two fingers up to the­ current world champions, and I believe that with the­ mix of players t

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Another welshman enters the fray! My test team would be­ (not seen it yet but should be due 12:30pm) Jenkins,­ Mears, Vickery, Shaw, O'Connell, Croft, Heaslip,­ Wallace, Phillips, O'Gara, Monye, Roberts,­ O'Driscoll, Bowe, Byrne. Unfortunately I doubt­ whether one Lions forward would get in the Springboks­ side with the exception of maybe Gethin Jenkins for his­ mobility, however I believe our backs are superior and­ only lack of time together would go against us. It will­ be small margins on Saturday and hopefully O'Gara­ will have his kicking boots on and stand up in the­ tackle as I'm sure they will target him (if he­ plays). Fingers crossed for a narrow Lions victory as­ that would set things up for a great series. S*d the­ inter-nation fighting and let's get behind the­ team, the Lions are the ultimate in rugby due to the­ difficulty of gelling together in such a short space of­ time, the Boks won't admit it but they would rather­ die on the field than lose to the Lions after '97.­ Let's just hope it's not the anticlimax of­ '05 which frankly was a disaster!

WILL M You're trying to better than the Donald Ds­ and sugruejames' of this world. Some­ ambition!!
Better to have picked the best players than­ the English bias of the last tour, which was a­ disaster. Bring on The Bull Hayes! Better than WILL­ M's (@#$% and) bull anyday.

what's wrong with sheep shaggin'

Not all the Irish players have been a 'class­ above' as you put it Kev...this isn't about how­ good your reputation is, it isn't about the country­ you play for, it's about four nations coming­ together as 1 and beating the arrogant southern­ hemisphere teams into submission. Sticking 2 fingers up­ at them and saying 'we're better than­ you!'. You have to play well when you get your­ chance, to show why you should be in the test team,­ then and only then can you be considered a true Rugby­ Giant!
Despite playing well all season, PoC has been­ @#$% all tour, O'callaghan not much better!­ Ther's 2 Irish 'class above' payers for­ you...
Wallace Heaslip O'Driscoll and Bowe have­ been awesome! Hines has been immense along with Jones­ in the second row and Shaw has been playing well. M.­ Williams has been a bit quiet, mainly due to the lack­ of competition from other players at the ruck. Roberts,­ Byrne and Phillips have been top quality. @#$% up­ between O'Gara and Jones...? Monye has played well­ as has Croft Vickery and Mears. Ellis is over rated, I­ think Mike Blair has a chance.

It was the Celts, Irish, Welsh and Scots, who made the­ British Empire. Whilst the English stayed at home for­ their afterrnoon tea and cucumber sandwiches and­ inventing games they could not play. It's not the­ winning 'Old Chap', but the being taken apart.!

I'm a proud Welshman but I have to admit, Will­ M's comment has made me laugh! One of the best­ comments I've read! Brilliant! I'm afraid­ McGeechan has't got much option other than to rely­ on the Green's and Red's though.

Bog trotters and sheep sh***ers they may be but they­ are truely a class above the lame excuses that English­ rugby have provided to the tour, or to world rugby in­ the past 3 years.

A typically xenophobic statement by­ Will M who has probably never had the chance to watch­ "real" rugby players at work. I dare say that­ four years ago he was calling for the team to be called­ the English Lions, and my, didn't they do well down­ under!!! NOT!!

The class players on that tour were­ the Irish and the Welsh, to give them they're­ correct billing, not the over rated, over paid and in­ most cases over the hill Englisg players that Clive­ Woodwards circus decided to take.

Bring on the first­ test, I'm sure that the "Bog Trotters"­ and "Sheep Shaggers" will do the BRITISH­ public proud!!

Or we could play all the @#$% English players and get­ hammered?

we should get rid of the british bit of the lions, as­ this team will be full of bog trotters and sheep­ shaggers

Ferris is at home!

O'connell,o'callaghan,wallace,heaslip,o'gar­ a,o,driscoll and bowe to start with fitzgerald kearney­ and ferris on the bench!