Ecclestone reveals Ferrari's extra cash

Eurosport - Sat, 20 Dec 23:16:00 2008

Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone has hit back at criticism from Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo by detailing how much more money the Italian team receive from the sport than their rivals.

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"They know exactly what they get, they are not that stupid, although they are not that bright, either. They get about $80 million (£54m) more," added the Briton.

"When they win the constructors' championship, which they did this year, they got $80 million more than if McLaren had won it."

Ferrari are the sport's most glamorous and successful team and the only ones still in Formula One who were also present at the outset of the world championship in 1950.

It has never been a secret that the Maranello team receive a greater share of the sport's revenues in recognition of their special importance but a figure has not previously been revealed.

Ecclestone's remarks followed comments by Di Montezemolo in which the Italian said Formula One was not run in a normal, transparent manner, did not need a dictator and that teams should get more of the revenues.

"The only thing he has not mentioned is the extra money Ferrari get above all the other teams and all the extra things Ferrari have had for years - the `general help' they are considered to have had in Formula One," said Ecclestone.

The Briton added that Ferrari benefited from agreeing a new deal with him after breaking ranks with the other manufacturers in 2003 when they were threatening a breakaway series.

"They were the only team that broke ranks with the other manufacturers - why did they break ranks?" he said. "That's where the $80 million comes in."

Ecclestone suggested Ferrari might like to share some of the money with the other teams rather than seeking more from him.

"What he (Montezemolo) should do, rather than asking for money, with all the extra money Ferrari gets, he should share all that amongst the teams," he said.

A Ferrari spokesman had no comment on Ecclestone's remarks.

"However, the topic of revenue is of the highest importance at this particular time in Formula One," he added.

Montezemolo also heads the Formula One Teams Association who have agreed a package of cost-cutting measures with the governing FIA to stabilise the sport in the face of the credit crunch.

At their last meeting, FOTA and FIA also agreed that they needed to sit down with Ecclestone's Formula One Management "to discuss the earnings of the Formula One teams."

FIA President Max Mosley has suggested that up to 12 teams should get at least $50 million each from the commercial rights holder to ensure full grids and a healthy championship.

Reuters

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  1. Must leave you guys. Still haven't got Mrs ChrisT a­ Christmas present and unless I go now you can guess­ what'll be on the menu!
    Normally in my house I have­ the last word.

    ...Yes, dear!

    From Count Louis Zborowski, on Tue 23 Dec 2:16PM
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    Ill go now­ before i get pulled:-)

    From MGA, on Tue 23 Dec 2:11PM
  3. Árdsay, you nicked it yourself by saying Middle East­ Énd - there, it's not a bit funny now ! Good one­ MGA - as long as you know your place !

    From m.e.jenner, on Tue 23 Dec 2:10PM
  4. Or this one
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    One­ day Mary meets this bloke Gabriel. She's like­ 'Oo ya lookin at?'

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    Joe goes 'You must be monged it you­ think I'm goin' dahn Egypt on on a minging­ donkey'

    Gabriel sez 'Suit yerself, pal. But­ it's your look out if you stay.'

    So they go­ dahn Egypt till they've stopped killin the­ first-born an' it's safe an' that. Then Joe­ and Mary and Jesus go back to Nazaref, an' Jesus­ turns water into Stella.

    From MGA, on Tue 23 Dec 2:06PM
  5. Heres one for you

    A man asked his wife what­ she'd like for her birthday.

    'I'd love to­ be 10 again' she replied.

    On the morning of her­ birthday, he arose early and made her a bowl of Coco­
    Pops and jammy toast

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    *
    The Death Slide­
    *
    The Wall of Fear
    *
    The Screaming Monster Roller­ Coaster

    Five hours later she staggered out of the­ theme park.

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    M&Ms!

    Finally she wobbled home with­ her husband and collapsed onto the bed
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    From MGA, on Tue 23 Dec 2:01PM
  6. Mine haven't disappeared for a while now!
    Which is­ strange as I don't think I'm any nicer! In fact­ I'm quite grumpy really.

    From Count Louis Zborowski, on Tue 23 Dec 1:53PM
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    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 23 Dec 1:51PM
  8. 682 - that's the vital clue MGA !!!!!

    From m.e.jenner, on Tue 23 Dec 1:45PM
  9. Oh that's not fair, I was going to make the­ extremely witty remark about the Middle East End only­ to be pipped at the post (bit like Brazil really -­ dragging it back to F1).

    From m.e.jenner, on Tue 23 Dec 1:44PM
  10. Mouron, your post
    .
    ARDSAY, the exsistant is there,­ like i said its not what you think you know, it is who­ you know, now you be a good boy and your airwaves will­ be safe.
    .
    thanks for that mouron - adding to the list,­ as instructed.
    .
    Tell me mourontoot why are you so­ nasty lately, I can remember a time I quite liked you.

    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 23 Dec 1:43PM
  11. How do people get your posts removed?
    had mine removed­ last night must have upset some one.
    No change there­ then:¬)

    From MGA, on Tue 23 Dec 1:42PM
  12. ARDSAY, the exsistant is there, like i said its not­ what you think you know, it is who you know, now you be­ a good boy and your airwaves will be safe.

    From touronroute, on Tue 23 Dec 1:40PM
  13. I said desert, not deserted!

    From Count Louis Zborowski, on Tue 23 Dec 1:24PM
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    Haven't laughed so much since ...well,­ last time I laughed really hard.

    From Count Louis Zborowski, on Tue 23 Dec 1:22PM
  15. Chris don't talk about Brands Hatch like that.

    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 23 Dec 1:20PM
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    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 23 Dec 1:20PM
  17. Yes. I'd guessed that by a comment about footy­ sometime ago!
    But I can just see you perched on your­ camel watching Formula One on one of these desert­ tracks.

    From Count Louis Zborowski, on Tue 23 Dec 1:18PM
  18. Chris I am from the Middle East End.

    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 23 Dec 1:09PM
  19. It's difficult to understand some of the posts by­ the nutters.
    .
    Elan - It's OK to take a bribe­ because if it was offered to someone else they would­ have taken it. No it isn't.
    .
    Golf - It's­ simply appearance money that no one was told about. Oh­ right.
    .
    Mouron - well this is what he said
    .
    ELAN,I­ belive like all other teams ferrari wanted more share­ off the money generated by the sport. What other teams­ , put it right ,the mclaren team of supporters. and­ your spelling is worse than mine.
    .
    Anyone with any­ idea of the meaning of this sentence means then please­ let me know? The only thing I can pick out of it is­ that he was saying his spelling was bad. No don't­ believe it mouron old mate.
    .
    I am not a McLaren­ supporter I am an F1 supporter who enjoyed watching­ Lewis win last year. It was great to see a Brit win,­ but of course that is a really bad thing being proud of­ a fellow countryman they don't do that sort of­ things in other countries, do they?

    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 23 Dec 1:08PM
  20. Ang' on So Long Marianne has just started. Sublime.

    From Ardsay e Giv-a-Shee, on Tue 23 Dec 1:00PM
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