SCOTTISH C, why all the appoligies from toyota, idiot,­ how many drivers have said glock tried hard. one,­ fernando, who was taking the michael.SCOTTISH C, , most­ drivers are proffesional they can live with it, they­ allways say a person who allways keeps on about a thing­ ,allways thinks someone is guilty.

SlimJ it is completely wrong, immoral and corrupt to­ offer Ferrari money to stay.
Why don´t they offer Honda­ more money also, McLaren, Williams, Renault etc, all­ this nonsense of Ferrari not being favoured has­ crumbled before our very eyes.

The plot thickens here's something from the BBC­ website.

"Mosley said our board was full of­ people not well informed," Di Montezemolo told the­ Guardian.
"Well there is on our board the­ vice-chairman of the FIA, Marco Piccinini, a member of­ the [FIA] world council, [former Ferrari team boss]­ Jean Todt, Mr Piero Ferrari [son of Ferrari founder­ Enzo Ferrari] and myself.

So two members of­ Ferrari's board are also in the FIA. the phrase­ conflict of interests springs to mind.

Good clips Scottish C

SlimJ.

Here is the full quote from GP update site,­ I'm sure more will come out­ shortly.

"Ecclestone explained: "They were­ the only team that broke ranks with the other­ manufacturers - why did they break ranks? That's­ where the $80 million comes in. We 'bought'­ Ferrari. We 'bought' Ferrari's loyalty. Our­ deal with Ferrari was that we 'bought' them so­ they would not go to the others."

I didn't­ say it was illegal, just wrong.

Anything that Ferrari­ win in the future ( and presumably in the recent past­ too) will always have the question hanging over it, how­ much help did they get from FOM/FIA.?

Also I just love­ the attempts to justify this,
"I'ts all­ Bernies fault, he takes more than us."
"We­ are the oldest F1 team, we are special"
Or the­ really thick ones that don't understand and­ say
"Why shouldn't we get prize money for­ winning the constructors championship."
I­ sincerely hope that there is no F1 Championship next­ year as the other teams break away and sort out their­ own independent fair & open series, with the income­ divided fairly so that all the teams have a chance not­ just Spanky and Grumpys "Hoes"

Have also posted this in another story but feel­ it's worth repeating.

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At last someone has­ posted an onboard camera shot of Glock on the last lap­ at Brazil.

Touron and the other Glock conspiracy­ theorists, please pop along to youtube and paste this­ into the search bar.

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Anyone who­ watches that and still thinks Glock wasn't on the­ ragged edge, might want to paste this into­ youtube.

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This is what happens when­ someone with less talent tries to do what Glock did.

Although it worked just now.

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*sigh*

WWE is invalid apparently

These guys are the best in the world and they know­ Glock raced hard & fair. The nutters, halfwits,­ clowns and loons are all on here ranting & raving,­ foaming at the mouth, howling at the moon. Not 1­ driver, ex driver, journalist or pundit has come out­ and said they thought the Glock pass was dodgy.

That's not a sport, that's wrestling, played­ out for dramatic effect by actors.

Which is why the Glock thing is such a nonsense, all­ the drivers would walk away from F1 if they thought­ Glock was paid to slow down and let Hamilton win.

These are the best drivers in the world and they would­ all rather walk away from a sport that was fixed than­ be tarnished by the corruption.

Unlike those who think Glock cheated, I don't buy­ into the conspiracies.

I'm quite sure Bernie has­ thrown this revelation into the media purely to deflect­ the attention away from him and how much money he takes­ from the sport. Ferrari have only won 1 of the last 4­ drivers titles, if they are getting special treatment,­ it's clearly not enough to overcome the obvious­ talent from the likes of Alonso & Hamilton. You­ might be able to buy dodgy stewarding decisions, but­ you can't buy titles.

Anyone can give money to anyone else, but if the­ commercial rights holder or management of a sport give­ money in secret to a competitior that participates in­ their sport, and we see some hugely controversial­ decisions go in their favour. Controversial decisions­ made by the commercial rights holder & the­ governing body of the sport, like the stewarding­ decisions this year, the Stepneygate affair,­ Renault's ban on it's mass damper and­ scrappijng of launch control, etc, etc, etc. The­ viewing audience has every right to look suspiciously­ and with deep cynicism at those decisions.

SlimJ, just the fact that it was secret payments, which­ continued long after any talk of a breakaway series by­ the manufacturers was dropped makes it dubious.

Can­ you imagine if we found out that Man Utd were getting­ secret payments from the FA of £54 million a year,­ because they were a team with a rich history and had a­ special glamour that the likes of Hull or Everton or­ Bolton don't have.

Mike Q : Just where is the bribe here ? There was­ nothing legally wrong with Bernie offering Ferrari­ money to stay .

Why are you people so rude of the drivers, you lot­ could'nt drive your way out of your duvet let alone­ a race track. Leave them alone stop amaking spiteful­ comments about Kimi and Felipe and just go back to your­ play stations which is clearly more your level

Ha ha Murky S,
If he cheated why is he still­ champion?
Why hasn't the FIA and Ferrari done­ something about it??
If there really is a conspiracy­ why isn't it in all the papers worldwide??
Do you­ have any really constructive answers?
No, I doubt­ it.
Anyway it must be your bed time, so off you go.