Eurosport - Mon, 21 Sep 15:30:00 2009
Great Britain were relegated to the third tier of Davis Cup tennis when they lost 3-2 to Poland at the weekend. How did this happen and what happens next for British tennis? A Britwatch special tries to answer the tough questions.
What happened?
In 2008 Britain were relegated from the World Group of the Davis Cup after being beating by Argentina and Austria.
That meant that this season they played in Europe/Africa Zone Group One, but after being beating 4-1 by Ukraine they were forced into a relegation play-off against Poland in Liverpool.
Andy Murray, who missed the Ukraine game, won both his singles matches but lost the doubles when paired with Ross Hutchins against Mariusz Fyrstenberg and Marcin Matkowski - a pairing ranked 11th the world.
That meant that Dan Evans needed to win one of his two singles matches on his Davis Cup debut, but he lost both of them in straight sets.
Who or what is Dan Evans?
Evans is Britain's fifth highest ranked player at 303 in the world. He is still only 19 and had a promising junior career which included a run to the quarter-finals of the Australian Open boys' singles in 2008. He has not been without controversy though. At Wimbledon in 2008 he was photographed in the early hours of the morning on the day he was meant to play a boys' doubles match and was suspended by the LTA for four months. This meant he was stripped of his funding and also denied access to LTA practice centres and coaching staff during that period.
Why was Evans selected for such an important tie if he is only Britain's number five?
British number two James Ward (world ranking 189) is still awaiting his first chance of Davis Cup action, but he had to pull out of the Poland tie due to glandular fever. However, John Lloyd (pictured) had said that Evans would play ahead of Ward even before that news. Josh Goodall (WR: 235) was also ruled out of the Poland game with illness but has not taken his previous Davis Cup chances in any event. British number four Alex Bogdonovic (WR: 247) has also had injury problems but is no longer being considered for selection after losing both his rubbers against Austria in 2008.
So a few have tried and failed already?
More than a few - the last time someone other than Andy Murray, Tim Henman or Greg Rusedski won a live rubber for Britain in a Davis Cup tie was back in April 1997 when Andrew Richardson defeated Zimbabwe's Byron Black in five sets (Britain still lost the tie 4-1). Since then, as well as those already mentioned, Chris Eaton, Jamie Baker, Arvind Parmar, Alan Mackin, Martin Lee and Jamie Delgado have all tried and failed to break that duck.
It is no better at doubles level either, as again Britain have not won a match without one of the 'big three' playing. Colin Fleming, Ross Hutchins, Jamie Murray, Delgado, Miles McLagan, Parmar and Neil Broad have all failed at doubles when not partnered with one of the top guys.
Is it just a case that the players are not good enough?
That's certainly a factor but then the two Polish players that beat Evans - Jerzy Janowicz and Michal Przysiezny - were ranked 261 and 678 respectively, and there is really no excuse for losing to both of them in straight sets.
Why are Britain not producing better players?
That is the million dollar question, or to put it more accurately, the multi-million dollar question. It is not through lack of funding that is for sure, but it is surely no coincidence that Murray was sent by his parents to train in Barcelona at an early age and is now the one who is streets ahead of the pack.
Maybe the British players are too spoiled by the LTA? Natural talent is not enough at the top level of the game. A consistent hunger and desire to improve is imperative to move up the rankings and any let up can lead to a quick descent. Britain's youngsters should not be fed with a silver spoon, they need to earn and justify their funding.
Should John Lloyd remain as captain?
If he keeps his position he can count himself very lucky as it is now two years since Britain have won a Davis Cup tie. He was talking to Evans repeatedly between changeovers during his two matches so he has to take a share of the blame for those defeats - especially as Evans's shot selection and tactics in both matches were among the weakest aspects of his game.
Britain seem to have a ready-made replacement for Lloyd in Rusedski, who has shown a keen analytical eye for the game in his media work since retiring from the game. He loves the Davis Cup and played 13 seasons of the competition for Britain (which is still a record). The current crop of players also grew up watching him play and will respect for him that, while Lloyd was last a factor in the game before the likes of Murray and Evans were even born.
Where next for the Great British team?
Britain have now been relegated to Europe/Africa Group Two, where Bosnia, Estonia, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Egypt, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Turkey, Monaco, Norway, Portugal and Slovenia all reside. Whether Murray can be persuaded to compete against these teams is another thing. He has already hinted that he may take a step back for now, or he might follow Roger Federer's lead and only play the second part of the Davis Cup season, like the world number one has done for Switzerland in the last few years.
In any event, the drop down could do Britain good as they might now be at a level where they can compete even without Murray.
However, it also now means that Britain can only return to the World Group in 2012 at the earliest, and to that they will have to remain unbeaten for the next two years, an unlikely prospect given last weekend's exploits.
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I Understand the LTA have enough funds to exploit in tennis players . My question is who get selected ? the WEALTHY the FAMOUS THE ELITE KIDS ? I think britain has to modernize and make game clubs open to all.
In the Netherlands we are in the same position but TENIS IS FOR ALL AND at least the selection is not biased we fail for other reasons
Why does France for example have several French African players and Britain NONE AT LEAST in the ATP.
And why did Lloyd gamble on Evans even if the better seeded failed before They were in a better position to make up .They had the advantage of experience.
I think if David Lloyd has class nd respect for himself and his country's interest com above his personal ego he has to leave .Please leave and give British team a chance. Britain give everyone equal chances
gichagigirl
Run a series of local and provincial competitions, with local involvement. Watch the tallent come out in force. The sport is too elitist at present to attract the hungry for success masses.
The coaching in this country is shockingly bad. I agree with the person that wrote that all the LTA coaches that are on 40-50k a year should be put on 12k a year and the rest be performance related. I'd love to see their reaction to that!!! I used to play on the Girobank Tour years ages ago and I used to see the LTA coached strutting around in their fancy GB tracksuits acting like they have produced world class players for years. I believe thats where the problem is, its not a lack of talent. Imagine if you were a recruitment consultant on 50k a year and you never placed anyone in a job and you never found new clients. What would happen to you??? YOU WOULD GET THE SACK!!! So why are these coaches still in their jobs WHEN THEY ARE SHOCKINGLY BAD AT THEM??? I coached for a while and I am not implying that I could have done a better job but I probably couldnt have done any worse!!! It is my opinion that the LTA is the single worst sporting governing body in the UK with infinitely more money than sense and when the hierarchy is questioned regarding their failings they answer like politicians, its embarassing. Its a shame for Andy Murray because while this regime is in control i doubt he will ever play at the highest level of Davis Cup. Send all the talented, promising kids to Spain or the States so the LTA dont get a chance to ruin their opportunity to realise their potential.
it is very sad to c a nation with such great wealth not able 2 perform. the responsabilty has 2 lye with those in charge 2 make sure the players are trained 2 world standards players like evans with poor discipline should be made an example of not represent the country. we need players who will give all and more 2 compete at the worlds highest standards with the resources on hand by now we should no exactly what is required when i listen to those in the know its always about the next generation of players 4 the solution time 4 a change in mentality sombody should stand up 2 the challenge 2day !!!!!
tell u how to improve your tennis, Brits,
build plenty of (cheap) clay courts, you have the perfect weather for them
this would increase tennis popularity among middle-class kids, and they could build the core of future tennis success, not pampered aristocrats
tula, tula, tula. I saw this post previously about two weeks ago! If you go to the trpouble of cut and pasting a two week old thread then youve got to be very sad indeed!
Apparently the LTA have about 50 million pounds to spend, so what are earth are they spending it on? For years they have supported the likes of Bogo, Hutchins et al, none of whom have made any use of the wild cards they are allocated at Wimbledon. They collect their money from the tournament and do nothing. Time to move on, let go of Elena Baltacha etc, they are going nowhere now, all over 25/26 too late. Spend the money on putting public courts around the country, and look for young talent. Write off this bunch of indulged no hopers, don't think you'd find any of the Croatians, Serbs etc in a club the night before a match, and the Polish team seemed full of pride and energy, unlike our fruit eating bunch sitting on the sidelines. Even Heather Watson chose to train in the US , without help from the LTA, time to sort all this out and instill some discipline and hunger to perform. We cannot expect Murray to incur injuries trying to save the rest, as he said we are now where we are supposed to be, perhaps we can beat Ireland etc, but don't bank on it.
We need to look at the coaching staff and so called talent that we are funding, as i new that we were going to lose this match after Evans was tottally out of his depth at this level .
We always look lightweight and were is the passion playing for Great Britain, as they are not hungry for success just losers.
We have just got to face the facts we are worse then useless in this sport, with the exception of Murray whom performed well with an injury
What country in the world can we beat??????
Am gannay fone Derren Broon eftar 8 thas Seterday nicht tae find oot wat lotto numburs were pict.!
We can't blame John lloyd its the players not him.all we have is Andy Murray and he won his 2 singles matches.We need more young players coming up like we have on the girls side.
so since del potro hammered nadal does that mean he'll never win again?! no i don't think so, nadal wasn't 100% and neither was murray, carrying a wrist injury and playing on for a month shows guts and determination and once he's had a chance to rest and recover from this injury he'll come back just as strong!
i am in thailand puhket wot are u on about lol....................idiots
english need to take away british passport he has no english lion heart. just a floppy drippy 1
why is murry so disliked ? he is the most unpopulsr sportsman on the planet? help me understand?
in thailand we think he is a ugly grummpy scottty
scotty land out of world cup what sports will they do at olympics .?
world number 2 errrrrrrrr no.3 going down ................ i predict this time next year 14th
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
it was embrassing for him , embrassing for scotland, and just embrassing
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
i hear english people have told him to stay in scotland henmans hill is safe
he will never beat this croat again, the guy knows how too beat murry and others will follow suit./
murry never smiles even when he loses badly
this could be end for murry now going down rankings
scottys r loser i have seen world cup team play
murry is scottish not english i think.
murry drippy tennis omg
murray is cone speaker boy your friend or your dad?
no scotty person can hold there head up now.
i am in thailand puhket wot are u on about lol....................idiots
english need to take away british passport he has no english lion heart. just a floppy drippy 1
why is murry so disliked ? he is the most unpopulsr sportsman on the planet? help me understand?
in thailand we think he is a ugly grummpy scottty
scotty land out of world cup what sports will they do at olympics .?
world number 2 errrrrrrrr no.3 going down ................ i predict this time next year 14th
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
it was embrassing for him , embrassing for scotland, and just embrassing
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
i hear english people have told him to stay in scotland henmans hill is safe
he will never beat this croat again, the guy knows how too beat murry and others will follow suit./
murry never smiles even when he loses badly
this could be end for murry now going down rankings
scottys r loser i have seen world cup team play
murry is scottish not english i think.
murry drippy tennis omg
murray is cone speaker boy your friend or your dad?
no scotty person can hold there head up now.
i am in thailand puhket wot are u on about lol....................idiots
english need to take away british passport he has no english lion heart. just a floppy drippy 1
why is murry so disliked ? he is the most unpopulsr sportsman on the planet? help me understand?
in thailand we think he is a ugly grummpy scottty
scotty land out of world cup what sports will they do at olympics .?
world number 2 errrrrrrrr no.3 going down ................ i predict this time next year 14th
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
it was embrassing for him , embrassing for scotland, and just embrassing
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
i hear english people have told him to stay in scotland henmans hill is safe
he will never beat this croat again, the guy knows how too beat murry and others will follow suit./
murry never smiles even when he loses badly
this could be end for murry now going down rankings
scottys r loser i have seen world cup team play
murry is scottish not english i think.
murry drippy tennis omg
murray is cone speaker boy your friend or your dad?
no scotty person can hold there head up now.
i am in thailand puhket wot are u on about lol....................idiots
english need to take away british passport he has no english lion heart. just a floppy drippy 1
why is murry so disliked ? he is the most unpopulsr sportsman on the planet? help me understand?
in thailand we think he is a ugly grummpy scottty
scotty land out of world cup what sports will they do at olympics .?
world number 2 errrrrrrrr no.3 going down ................ i predict this time next year 14th
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
it was embrassing for him , embrassing for scotland, and just embrassing
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
i hear english people have told him to stay in scotland henmans hill is safe
he will never beat this croat again, the guy knows how too beat murry and others will follow suit./
murry never smiles even when he loses badly
this could be end for murry now going down rankings
scottys r loser i have seen world cup team play
murry is scottish not english i think.
murry drippy tennis omg
murray is cone speaker boy your friend or your dad?
no scotty person can hold there head up now.
i am in thailand puhket wot are u on about lol....................idiots
english need to take away british passport he has no english lion heart. just a floppy drippy 1
why is murry so disliked ? he is the most unpopulsr sportsman on the planet? help me understand?
in thailand we think he is a ugly grummpy scottty
scotty land out of world cup what sports will they do at olympics .?
world number 2 errrrrrrrr no.3 going down ................ i predict this time next year 14th
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
it was embrassing for him , embrassing for scotland, and just embrassing
cant handle the pressure and its mounting fast ................. i c the cracks
he played better 2 years ago, what now . scottys should stick to hagis throwing
i hear english people have told him to stay in scotland henmans hill is safe
he will never beat this croat again, the guy knows how too beat murry and others will follow suit./
murry never smiles even when he loses badly
this could be end for murry now going down rankings
scottys r loser i have seen world cup team play
murry is scottish not english i think.
murry drippy tennis omg
murray is cone speaker boy your friend or your dad?
no scotty person can hold there head up now.
Bogdanovic should have played. he is better ranked that Evans and has a big serve and would have proved difficult to beat indoors. He must be fit as he was in the qualies for ATP Metz.
Sometimes you just have to go with the numbers. Why pick a guy ranked at 303 when Bogdan is 243? That's just wrong. Yes Bogdanovic is not exactly the real deal but he could have put away a pole ranked
Bogdanovic should have played. he is better ranked that Evans and has a big serve and would have proved difficult to beat indoors. He must be fit as he was in the qualies for ATP Metz.
Sometimes you just have to go with the numbers. Why pick a guy ranked at 303 when Bogdan is 243? That's just wrong. Yes Bogdanovic is not exactly the real deal but he could have put away a pole ranked
The British lawn fed. should take away the funding , of the men that are not good enough , put it into grass roots tennis .. Does anybody know how much funding the Polaks get from their fed..
Fact is, the British public could not give a damn about tennis as a whole. Its generally seen as elitist, un-cool, not for the masses, so basically the nation wouldn't care a jot about the Davis Cup. From the outside, David Lloyd and co, are they really good enough to bring through new players and so on having achieved exactly what in his professional tennis playing life. I also think the Brits are too lazy as a nation, the young people are too lazy, fat, uneducated and ignorant to play tennis.
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