"Manchester City have not provoked any of this­ controversy and United have created a climate of­ hostility against us."

i take it Garrido­ conveniently missed the "welcome to­ manchester" poster??

1. We won the laegue las year dosent matter who we beat­ and who we didnt.
2. We have made abetter start to this­ year without tevez and ronaldo.
3. 30 seconds per­ sbstitute and per goal is in fifas rulebook. Hence 4­ goals 2 minutes. $ subs another 2 mins equals 4­ minutes.
4. Goal and sub in extra time. Another minute­ but ref decide bellamy over celebrated.
End of we were­ better than you and deserved the 3 points.

The FACT of the matter is that Utd recorded more than­ twice the shots city did (21 to 10) 11 corners to­ city's 1, and 60% possession throughout the 90­ minutes and completely outplayed City in the second­ half, sure we didnt capitalise on the countless chances­ we had in the second half but it goes some way to­ showing how we controlled the play throughout. R.E #85­ Kevin Roberts, ok so even if only 3 goals had been­ scored and 2 subs before the 90 minutes was up that­ adds up to 4 minutes. As any delays after 90 minutes­ have to be taken in to account with added time the­ following is true. Bellamy's goal just before 90­ mins resulted in play not restarting until 91+, add on­ the 4 mins added time= 95 mins, then carrick sub adds­ another 30secs = 95 mins 30 seconds. Owens goal was 95­ mins and 28 seconds. Arguement over!!!!!

wow post 77 do you even understand that what football­ is all about
You are talking of us been given more­ time and the penalty in the arsenal game
it all boils­ down to the fact that we played strong against arsenal­ and totally out play City in the second half
the only­ solid thing city had was the bulldog Tevez and the­ ballamy Wonder goal apart from that we were all over­ city
only 9% of playing happen in the United half in­ the whole second half and does that not tell you who­ the stronger team is.... Yeah CR is gone and Bulldog is­ wearing blue but we will still reign over the league­ like we always do so
get your game head on and think­ logically 3yr in a roll well when was the last time­ anyone else did that in the premiership. Stop hating­ and pay respect to one of the greatest football clubs­ in the world at the moment ...
Oh and stop hiding and­ get urself a name so we can call you out....

Re. 72 Christopher - yeah, I WAS at OT for the game­ sitting with my Utd friends in the Exec area and
(a) I­ had a clear view of Fergie's reaction to the board­ going up saying '4mins'
(b) the score at that­ time was 3-2, therefore 3 (THREE) goals in the 2nd­ half, not 4 as you state...Bellamy's equaliser came­ after the board was raised;so by my reckoning on your­ spurious claim for 'goals allowances'­ (der...since when?!) there should have been 3mins, plus­ 3 substitutions at 30secs each, making a total of­ 4.5mins! so they completely got it wrong,plus by your­ reckoning the board should've read 6mins taking in­ the '4th' goal in the 2nd half !
(c) there­ were no injuries at all of any consequence in the 2nd­ half to make up the time however you decide upon it­
(d) all of my Utd chums were glad to get to half-time­ at 1-1, and to a man they conceded that 3-1 to City­ would've been a fair scoreline had Tevez/Lescott­ scored because, as one of them said to me,­ 'You're passing us off the pitch'
(e) Utd­ raised their game in the 2nd half and could've­ scored a couple more; but like City in the 1st, they­ DIDN'T

Get your facts right...

number 79 "rooney dived" at arsenal what i a­ load of rubbish if almunia well ok any keeper for that­ matter comes out and dives at a players feet he should­ be very careful to get the ball look at the incident at­ arsenal he DID NOT ill repeat NOT touch the ball he DID­ ill repeat did touch rooney its stonewall penalty when­ that happens im a keeper meself i know that keepers are­ allowed to use their hands but if those hands are used­ to impeed a player in the box in any way its a pen no­ arguments even if it was not intentional or malicious­ thats the rules with keepers on saying that i dont­ think almunia was malicious just had bad timing that is­ why the ref did not send him off if the ref thinks­ their was intent to get the player ie not accidental­ then the keeper will hit the showers early either way­ its going to be a pen! do i think rooney made more of­ it than he should have yes and no yes he made a bit­ much of it but if it is a definate pen like it was in­ that case rooney cud have done 3 back flips and landed­ in the crowd holding his face it would stil have been a­ penalty

Fact is in the end both teams had 97 min to score­ goals. It was a great derby and I look forward to­ seeing the united scum come to eastlands next year. ­ Maybe we will have some bricks instead of coins.

#73
+1 for Liveinthepast FC!!! :-)))

Post 79, I'm getting fed up with people on here­ making wild accussations based once again on no fact,­ Every commentator and analist agrees that the penalty­ decision against Arsenal in the Man Utd game was­ correct. Also go ahead and make my day and actually­ give evidence for the FA bias towards Man Utd, or are­ you as I suspect just one more man regurgitating the­ miss-informed views of others?

i meant own goal not won goal lol

Also for all you jealous types who have nothing better­ than to claim that Utd are somehow in bed with the FA­ and get far more extra time than other teams, the­ reality is as was discovered by Sky Sports that Man Utd­ are actually towards the bottom of the league with­ regards to extra time being added on in games!!! The­ facts speak for themselves people, stop jumping on the­ anti Man Utd band wagon and start looking at the­ facts!!! Cue randon Anti Man Utd comments based on no­ evidence whatsoever and a little 3rd hand rambling from­ a guy known only as "Dave" down the­ local.......

post 73
stfu what do you mean you have beat arsenal­ and city
well i didnt say u didnt beat them
but how did­ you beat
1) arsenal = won goal and penalty did man utd­ have any real sniff at goal no jjust pure luck and tht­ diving bastrad rooney
2) man city = umm no major­ delays in the game no injury for no reason 4 mins added­ time nd tht scumbag ref didnt blow the whistle after­ the four minutes u @#$% went on to socre at like 96­ mins
but it is a shame tht its alex Ferguson that­ goes and harass the whole FA and press when any little­ thing happens to man utd
u guyz shouldnt wprry
sold­ ronaldo nd tevz to get umm owen nd valencia

hopefully­ the stupid FA will stop being bias towards man utd nd­ handle a mtch fairly nd lets see how manyy big games­ those scumbags will win
afterall last year they were­ beaten home and away by livepool got one pojnt outta­ arsenal and 4 points out of chelsea that was when they­ even had CR and tevez dw when the season settles in u­ will see tht man utd will regret those retarded­ transfers they made nd tht red nosed alckie will shut­ his motuh nd hopefully u guyz odont get refs tht are­ bias and mamn utd fans then see how many games u will­ win scum bagsz

Ha! Garrido can't understand the heated atmosphere­ at a derby game!!!! What sort of players are the arabs­ millions buying ? Sounds like the responce of a­ mercenary who wants a nice easy time collecting his­ huge salary to me, Also, I was begining to think that­ Man City were serious title contenders, but with this­ spitefull, petty reaction after being beaten by the­ (far) better team says they are still a small chavvy­ bunch of pretenders.

Comment 71.
the facts are the home team always gets the­ benefit of the watch and that is a fact. This has­ happened numerous time to Liverpool and Chelsea aswell.­ The problem is everyone jumps on the bandwagon when its­ United. But if uz really care that much take it to Fifa­ its there refs adding the time on not United. Bottom­ line is you play to th whistle i learned that at 8­ years old. Citys own fault for thinking the game was­ over. Latly if u notice the guardians report inly­ included United home games. What happened to the other­ 40 games in those 3 seasons..

#71, and also "matched Utd Toe to Toe", dont­ make me laugh, were you even watching the match????­ watch the second half again and see if your willing to­ make ignorant comments again.

Post 59.
Slipping away. Havent we just won the title 3­ years on the trot again. Havent we just beat City­ already beat Arsenal. One bad performance against­ Burnley and everybody thinks we are losing it. People­ like you need there had examined United are still the­ most dominant team in England and until the title is­ away for more than 5 seasons that will continue to be­ the case. You say take off the red misted glasses I say­ go and buy a pair. We are 2nd at the moment and­ everyone knows we have always been slow out the blocks.­ City spent how much money 120 million and we could of­ and probably should have put 6 past them.
I wonder what­ team you support?
Its got to be either City or­ Livinthepast FC.

#71, what do you mean there was no justification for­ the 4 minutes of extra time? It is standard procedure­ to add 1 min per goal of which there were 4 in the­ second half. As for extra time being added on to these­ 4 minutes in the second half, the extra time as­ indicated by the fourth official is a MINIMUM amount of­ added time to be played and any delays to play after­ normal time has come to an end must also be taken in to­ account! It has also been proven that Owens goal came­ only 1 second after added time and delays so please get­ your facts straight everybody. The important thing to­ remember is that City were lucky to even be 3-3 come 90­ mins and Man Utd had peppered the goal for the best­ part of 30 mins with the ball barely ever making it in­ to Utds half. Remember also that City had the extra­ time too, just because Man Utd had the skill to­ capitalise only goes to show how vast the gap between­ the two teams still is!!!

our ground with adebayor cant wait

joe90, YOU ARE DELUDED IF YOU THINK OUR CROWN IS­ SLIPPING