Two of the men who famously bowled England to Ashes victory in 2005 have revealed their disappointment at being overlooked in favour of Darren Pattinson for last week's second Test against South Africa.
Nottinghamshire seamer Pattinson, Grimsby born but raised in Australia, was handed a shock call-up after just a handful of first-class matches ahead of a clutch of more established players - including in-form duo Matthew Hoggard and Simon Jones.
Both players were part of the team that beat Australia three years ago but have endured difficult times since.
Hoggard continued to enjoy success in the immediate aftermath of that famous series, moving up to number six in the all-time English wicket-takers list, but was harshly dropped from the side after two below-par performances.
Jones, meanwhile, has not played a Test since 2005 after struggling with a series of serious injury problems.
Both men, along with fellow Ashes winner Steve Harmison, are now making waves in the LV County Championship and all three have received support from various quarters as they look to regain their international spots.
But Hoggard, for one, is not confident about getting the chance to prove himself again at that level.
"At the moment I think my international career is over. I'm back in the ranks and everyone has got to prove themselves and pick up the wickets to get back to that level," he told Radio Five Live.
Yorkshire bowler Hoggard insisted he was not surprised to be overlooked for the most recent Test, even though it was at his home ground.
"I'd already made peace with the fact that I wasn't included and that Chris Tremlett was next in line. But it's intriguing that a bowler (the injured Ryan Sidebottom) went down and Chris didn't play.
"I thought (Pattinson) was a Kolpak player."
Asked if he had ever had his England exile fully explained, Hoggard admitted to being unhappy with the way he was dropped one Test into the New Zealand tour early this year.
"Communication has been limited to say the least, but it's international sport and you don't need people to hold your hand.
"That really did pee me off, though," he added.
"I've played about eight years and been quite consistent over that time. I didn't perform well in the first match of the series but in the nets I thought I was back to my best."
Jones, reinvigorated after leaving Glamorgan for Worcestershire in the close season, also conceded to frustration at Pattinson's selection.
The 29-year-old has been hotly-tipped to earn a long-awaited recall when England's selectors announce the squad for the third Test, and he also revealed frustration over Pattinson's surprise inclusion.
"I was a bit disappointed with the last Test, with the selections etc," he said.
"But it's just a matter of keeping on taking wickets and pushing. They obviously chose him (Pattinson) because they thought he was the right man for the job but I'm sure a few bowlers around England were a bit disappointed.
"I'd love to get back into the side and I'm sure Hoggy would too, and Steve Harmison."
Reflecting on his own fine form, the Welshman added: "There were a couple of people doubting me last year so it's been a really good feeling to get back up to 91mph - that's a good way to put your point across."
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