Eurosport - Sat, 24 Jul 11:06:00 2010
American former cyclist Floyd Landis has again claimed he has seen compatriot Lance Armstrong take performance-enhancing drugs.
Landis, in his first interview since admitting doping during his career, told ABC's Nightline show that his former friend and team-mate had transfused his own blood.
"Rather than go into the entire detail of every single time I've seen it, yes, I saw Lance Armstrong using drugs," said Landis, who won the 2006 Tour de France but was later stripped of the title.
Asked whether he had seen Armstrong transfusing blood, he replied "yes". A second question asking if Armstrong has transfused blood more than once, the answer was: "Yes, many times".
Armstrong, seven-times Tour de France winner between 1999 and 2005, has always vehemently denied the accusations. He has never tested positive.
The 38-year-old's lawyer Tim Herman refuted the latest claims against his client, who he said has undergone 300 tests throughout his career.
"Landis is a confessed perjurer and he is a liar, and I think, as Lance said ... when you taste milk to see if it's sour, you take a first taste and you don't have to drink the whole carton to know it's all sour," Herman said.
Despite having never tested positive, Armstrong has been the target of doping allegations for much of his career.
But that has not prevented him being admired by many fans for overcoming cancer before winning the Tour de France each year from 1999 to 2005.
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He's not content to be a cheat; he has to be a rat also!
boring, no evidence , same old cra* coming up time and time again......until anything is proven you have to say the guy is innocent, just cus peolpe don't like L.A you think he's guilty what makes you right??? this issue ain't gonna be solved ...forget it, the guy ain't gonna be racing anylonger anyhow, move on there's a new doper on the block to moan about A.C
yawn......that should start some of you off enjoy....:)
Well lets just assume that they have all taken substances right from the Eddy Merckx days - it does seem likely that they all have, including the god fearing squeaky clean Davide Rebellin for example and of course all Lances team mates and former team mates, and then we have Pantani, Ullrich, Riis, Virenque, Heras, Ricci, Frigo, Van Den Brook, Jiminez etc etc etc etc etc.
The point im trying to make is that all things being equal and all the riders using performance enhancing products, Armstrong has still been the most successful.
Did you read about bruyneel and armstrong dumping landis' blood during the tour and laughing their asses off? Little boys riding their bikes....
Remember L.A.s7 tours all of his team on the front riding hard for mile after mile,some of them were even allowed a stage win or two,then L.A.retired what of the team there after nothing ! couln't hold a race pace,shot out the back and no wins,then it comes out one after the other , dopers !
I saw Floyd driving a brand new AUDI R5 V8 in Temecula, CA.... so now we know what he did with all his book sales and defense funds.
People are convicted all the time through the testimony of those who get on the stand and are not perfect. Undoubtedly, at Armstrong's trial, if any, Landis will face tough cross examination. Tell me something the US attorneys on the case won't be aware of and work to counteract.
-I agree. There is no smoke without fire. Lance Armstrong was asked to ,clear that had been surronding him, have his 1999 Tour 'de France urine samples re-tested. He declined. Why is it that?
-Many of his ex-teammates tested positive for banned substances such as Hamilton, Heras, Beltran, Landis. Do they use substances during their time in the team or not? Did they start to use performance enhancing drugs after they left the team? Their performance were outstanding while they were with Armstrong. So what did change after that when they left.
-Why did Lance Armstrong donate $125.000 to the UCI?
-People already testified under oath about Lance Armstrong's alleged doping practises.
These are indications??
If Novitzky concludes that US Postal team did run a doping programme, Armstrong and others could face charges. Through Tailwind Sports, the US Postal team was funded by taxpayers’ money. Let see what happens.
Tom Tom Post 67. Could you write your posts in English please, vee r not too plenty much werry gud understoodin vot u are speeking, are you a British Object or not?
There is no way LA could have won so many years on the trot without taking drugs when everyone around him was at it!
Sally, put your jingoistic flag aside for a moment. Are you certain you will still say "The only American cyclist who brought the honor of becoming .." once the inquiry is over? What if they prove that he did dope? For sure, he is still innocent as long as he has not be proven guilty, but where there is smoke, there is a fire. And there's been quite a thick cloud around him in the past 5 years!
I wish we had - and this would be feasible if ASO, the UCI, and WADA really wanted a clean cycling - a curve of his red blood cell count throughout each of his 7 Tours. This would be quite a good indication of what was going on or not during those Tours.
Floyd, please DO go into EVERY detail. I am sure that your stories will be just as coherent as your explanations about how you did NOT dope- that is until you changed your story. By the way Floyd, are you going to return that money people donated for your legal defense fund while you lied time and time again? Who can really say if you are telling the truth now?
LA NEVER doped .... in 2010. And proof is his ranking in 2010. The first time he rode clean. Funny to see how people get all heated up when someone who masterly played the right people gets demoted. He could easily have won again in 2006. But LA is no idiot, he knew he had to skip, they were after him. Just lie low and hope nobody spills the beans. LA baby knows he is in deep @#$% now. And that is good.
Shame on all of you people! The only American cyclist who brought the honor of becoming a 7 time champion is now being stepped on like dirt! Instead of being proud and glorify him for bringing the honor to our country as Americans, you're the first to disgrace him. It is an absolute outrage! You Lance haters couldn't have done one single thing to make your country proud and yet you're the ones who are acting like you could have done better. SHAME ON YOU!!!!! And all those big time lawyers who are trying to bring him down and strip him with all of the medals, they have brought themselves at the same lowest level as Floyd Landis, they're not after justice, they're after fame and money. WHAT A SHAME!!!
google "outside magazine epo deaths". Armstrong was fortunate he had the $ and dr. (michele ferrari) to dope safely and not end up dead like loads of other riders.
To Mincow: Let the doping test people publish Armstrong's blood parameters throughout each of his "winning" Tours, it will be a good start to understand what happened and how he was able to crush the competition, even those who had a 5-10% edge because of doping. It will be hard to explain why his red blood cells shot up in the middle of the Tour!
Landis is not only a proven liar, but he's STILL lying -- he still claims that he was clean when he was busted for the 2006 Tour. Why would he claim this? Because if he admits that he was doping during his massive comeback stage win and tour victory, then he would be admitting that he defrauded his supporters out of millions of dollars. So Landis has every motive to lie -- first, to avoid being sued for the millions he fraudulently obtained from his supporters, and second, to avoid being prosecuted criminally for that fraud. Anyone want to bet that Landis cut a deal with prosecutors? You know, "If you give me a pass, I'll give you Armstrong." And lest we forget, this is the same guy who basically threatened Armstrong just weeks ago, saying, essentially: "Get me on a team and let me ride, or I will destroy you," So, he's not only a liar, but basically a blackmailer, too -- yet this is the guy all the Lance haters choose to believe? Landis is a proven liar, and he's still lying -- so, why exactly, would anyone believe a word that comes out of his mouth? You can suspect and speculate all you want about Armstrong, but that doesn't make Landis a credible witness. The guy is liar with a revenge motive -- those are facts.
Armstrong is the only cyclist ever to personally donate $25,000 to the governing body, and shortly thereafter his team donated $100,000 to the UCI? Armstrong is also the only one to NOT test positive who stood on the TdF podium from 1999 to 2005. Sure, that's not suspicious at all!
I think Lance should be on Saturday Night Live episode. They can have a skit of him blood doping, that would be the only time anyone would ever see that! Why don't we dig up old team mates of Steve Perfontaine and see if he was doping too! This is a joke who cares. Lance is truly an inspiration for all of America and cancer survivors! Landis is just a Rat! His credibility ZERO!
Two comments: First, Floyd Landis has every motive to "give up" Lance saying he doped because Floyd most undoubtedly is being investigated for fraud when he advertised over the internet that he had not doped in order to solicit funds for his defense attorney. The Feds have him and they know it and he knows it. So what do most guys in his position do facing prison, they make a deal to keep out of prison. Who is worth more than Landis? LA, of course. When I read the accusations in the WSJ and the continuing ones now, as a retired criminal defense attorney, I can see the imprint of his own attorney's attempt to make Landis's story ring true. It is hard for me to believe that Lance and his team would transfuse blood on a country road in France during the TdF with French officials wanting to catch Lance doping . It is also hard for me to believe Landis when he says after all these allegations that he saw Lance doping. Why didn't he say that before when he made the original accusations. It is also hard from me to believe someone who says I did not take testosterone ever, was found to have had extremely high levels in his blood test at the Tour when he won it, then say after 4 years thatt he had doped and now wants to come clean, but still will not admit to taking Testosterone. Oh, I forgot, he did say that Lance had given him a testosterone patch. With his story changng so often and his motive to stay out of prison, I think he has real motive to lie about Lance.
Point two: I have appreciated the posts from those bicyclists who seem to know about pro cycling and the doping involved even now. While I would like to think Lance never doped, I would not be surprised if I found out that Lance had doped. It just seems improbable to me that he did. Given everyone who got caught during Lance's time and after, it is hard for me to understand how he didn't get caught with all the testing.
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