paul g you talk some sh,ite..any good points on your­ teams efforts today?

.McGeady is great to watch. Why septic have that­­ cheating clown in their team is beyond me. He's­­ overweight, overpaid and talentless. He's­ breathing­ like he has emphysema within 5 minutes. I­ only wish­ septic had more of the same.

Nearly half way through a disastrous season and this­ clown ( Wilson ) "thinks" he needs to raise­ his game ?
Does he by this statement admit he has been­ giving sub standard performances and if so woill he­ consider giving back some of his undeserved salary. I­ dont think so he wont have the guts to do that.
Well­ known saying " talk is cheap " comes to mind­ .
The players at Celtic Park are far removed from the­ quality the supporters deserve and expect.
Where do we­ go from here ?

kevin, i'm not blaming tony for this team, i was­ just commenting on his comment that the players must­ "prove that they are good enough" i was­ mearly pointing out that they are not, i'm behind­ Tony, we will see in January if that loyalty is­ misguided, and Mark, you are spot on, I like Caldwell,­ there is no doubt he is the scapegoat, i've checked­ the goals against and goals for every season since­ 2001, the defence are doing as good as they always did,­ the forwards aren't, Celtic used to win 2-1, 3-1,­ 4-1 or more and no-one cared about the goal we lost,­ but now it's highlighted because the garbage up­ front aren't good enough.

Mogga needed to make the changes before the start of­ the season....whoever is available in January will be­ overpriced. Wilson is @#$% as is the rest of the back­ line.

it's a strange time to be a Celtic supporter. In my­ 40 years following the club we have always been blessed­ with an abundance of free scoring truly gifted players­ and the vast majority of those were local bhoys.­ Lennox, Johnstone, Murdoch, Auld, Nicholas, McClair,­ McStay, McAvennie, Walker, the list is endless. As hard­ as it is to say we now have a team who struggle with­ the basics of trapping and passing a ball. Scott­ Macdonald, despite his debut season goal scoring record­ has a woeful 1st touch and his distribution is as bad.­ We all know Scott Brown has had his personal issues,­ but his form does not warrant inclusion in the team­ week in week out. Shaun Maloney is no where near the­ player that left us for the EPL, Mark Wilson seriously­ lacks pace and comes unstuck both defensively and in­ attack because of this. McManus is fast becoming a­ liability and his and Loovens bad form has affected the­ performance of Caldwell who in my opinion is being made­ the scapegoat. Sure Caldwell makes mistakes, who among­ us doesn't, but he's scored and created more­ goals than he's conceded. The local talent is out­ there. Modern managers hide behind the excuse that they­ can't buy expensive imports and compete. The guy­ who scored for Hamburg last night cost them €10m. He­ was a decent player but come on, he wasn't near the­ class of Larsson or Bergkamp. Last night we were­ nervous and lacked composure on the ball, passing and­ crossing was woeful and the running off the ball lacked­ direction or purpose. The core basics of a good­ footballing side. Stop hiding behind lack of transfer­ funds and start giving good skilful players such as­ McCourt, McGinn and Caddis a run out, and for gods­ sake, bring back Darren O'Dea!!!!

ha ha ha ha ha ha, the epl ,poor deluded fools

TONY YOU AND YER PAL VENUS AND GRANT FORTUNE SAMARAS­ McMANUS CAWLDWEL SHOULD DAE US ALL A FAVOUR AND GET­ TAE FECK BACK TAE ENGLAND SHIRE YER RANK

Players just not good enough!

They were not as bad last season or the one before­ that! Its the same players that were playing last night­ except n'guemo who mowbray bought. How come­ strachan could motivate them but mowbray cant. Its­ because he does nt see fault with them and insists that­ they put in a good performance, we hear this every week­ now. Hes trying to be a father figuire to them and not­ a boss. Strachan or martin oneill would have tore­ strips off of them for some of their performances this­ season. The first half performace against tel aviv­ comes to mind, should nt he have been in at half time­ tearing into them for playing so poorly and demanded­ better. That is what it takes to command the dressing­ room you can see that he has lost the dressing room­ already. If you take no @#$% the team will work harder­ for you. If you try to be their pal they will take the­ c**t out of you!

Guys, get a reality check here Mowbray inherited this­ team and he stated that he would give everyone a­ chance....he will sell and buy in Jan. Furthermore 2 of­ his signing are injured so how can they be judged. Give­ the guy time. Out of the 200/3/4 squad there is only­ one player left Maloney, Starchan squad was not good­ enough with players going stale. Mowbray will build his­ own team however it does not happen in 12 games. Also­ "penny pinching" just look at the farce at­ IPOX and then think about our boards penny pinching.­ The goal scorer last night cost £12 million btw!!!!

I dont know if anyone noticed right about the 68th­ minute when the ball was played through to one of the­ hamburg players mcmanus missed the header to clear it­ as he normally does then pretended he was injured went­ off the park limping they where about to bring on­ loovens but mcmanus made a full recovery the guy is­ absolutely rank he knew he blew it went down knowing we­ were losing wasting time he must go in january as for­ mark wilsons comments the guy is a dunfermline player­ at best time for a major clearence starting with the­ penny pinching board

inverkenny - so who is tony meant to play,judge him on­ his own siginings when he gets the chance theres not­ alot we can do just now, we must knuclke down and get­ on with it

altho am goin to question tony's man­ management skills,if you look at what martin­ o'neill did - i know every manager is diff but he­ gave average players self belif that they could win a­ game,if u look at petta,agathe,petrov,mcnamara,sutton­ and many more he gave them that self belif,surley tony­ and the coaching staff can do the same but that will­ take alot of hard work in training

and dont expect­ class players coming to scotland,u kept banging on­ about the players weve bought over the last 10-12­ years,those days are long gone for the old firm,we cant­ compete with other leauges.yes the old frim have the­ fan power and are backed all the way but thats it,we­ cant compete wit teams wages they can offer.if the old­ firm are looking at a player their agent will say to­ clubs down south and 9 times out of 10 they go else­ were because they offer bigger wages.old firm only get­ a handful of gem siginings now ie -­ boruc,naka,cuellar,boughera and miby gravessen (he was­ a gd player for everton - couldnt hack it up here)

so­ must grit our teeth and get on with it,yes its not good­ enough but the fact is thats the way its goin to be­ from now on c'mon the hoops

tony, they have proved they are not good enough, how­ many chances are you going to give them, this team are­ finished, the fans know that, but you dont, did you see­ all the empty seats, the fans aren't stupid, they­ are not going to pay to watch non football, can anyone­ name a footballer at Celtic, Nakamura is gone, and­ Wilson should shut his mouth, same goes for McGeady,­ when you do your talking in the media and not on the­ park it's a sure sign of a failure.