Bernie Ecclestone has hit out at Brawn GP for not sewing up a deal yet with F1's new World Champion Jenson Button.
29-year-old Button has expressed his desire to stay with the Brackley squad in 2010, but is holding out for a return to the salary he was contracted to receive this year: about $13m.
To aid the Honda management buyout, the Briton agreed to slash his pay to about $5m, and also paid for most of his own travel and even laundry cleaning bills throughout his winning campaign.
So far, Brawn chiefs Ross Brawn and Nick Fry are refusing to accept Button's demands.
"They are being a little bit arrogant considering how long they have been in Formula One," said Ecclestone, the sport's chief executive.
"They should remember they have only been in the sport 10 minutes really," he is quoted as saying by the Mirror.
Button's manager Richard Goddard agrees that the situation, now spreading into rumours of a high-income switch to McLaren, is entirely Brawn's fault.
"A lot of quality seats may still be available so it's down to Brawn to make us an offer," The Sun newspaper quotes him as saying.




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Whether or not Jensen si a worthy world champion or not is besides the point. If you become world champ you double you wages, it happens in almost every sport on the face of the earth. The major issue here is that Brawn are not exactly a huge, rolling in money team, so should be careful about how their money is spent. Not only that but Button knows that this is the case, not only that but this sport as a whole is on a mission to reduce the amount of money they pay. He deserves a pay rise but to go from 3/5?? which one is it? i have been of the opinion its been 3 all season or have these pages been talking wa*nk all year up to 13 when he knows about the team and how its running is just a bit over zealous. He deserves more money but to get an extra 10 is asking a bit much considering everything.
616,
First, I have not said that Jensen is not a worthy champion. The fact is he is a champion now and nobody can take it away from him. It is a fact now.
What I am saying is just mere discussion of "what if" and some of the situation throughout the season that put him on the road of being a champion.
Fact #1: Brawns has been the fastest car since their first late test. (Was it end of January or early Febuary?) It is widely known that the double decker diffuser is one of the main contributors. That's why several teams had protested until the WMC ruled in legal. As for the reason Toyota and Williams hadn't win even with the diffuser. Simple reason, they just didn't do a good enough job tot he car with respect to Brawns. They were doing fairly well against the other teams int he first few races.
It is not a surpise that Brawns won a 1-2 in Australia.
Fact #2: Jensen did slumber in his performance from British GP onwards. I don't know why and nobody knows why. Maybe it is his lack of consistency. in comparison, Rubens had won couple of races and closing his gap.
Fact #3: The other teams' cars were catching up in term of performance. Most notably Red Bull and Mclaren. Ferrari was improving slowly, but decided to give up after Hungary. Renault had some decent performance too. Force India even later on in the season in Spa. Has Brawns run out of money for more development? who knows. But try to improve the slight split of a sec is always tough.
Fact #4: The 2 Red Bull drivers had not been very consistent in their title challenge. They have all sort of problems, from drivers' errors, tactical errors to engine failures. Therefore, they were not able to capitalise on Jensen's below par performance and Brawn's diminished performance advantage. Base on that sense, Jensen was fortunate that he was not penalised by his mysterious poor performance.
ferraribeng, Jenson was not fortunate in any way what so ever. Fortunate doesn't even come into it. You can only beat what is put in front of you, and all drivers have tried their best this year and he has won the title. There is no logical way on earth you can say "well he deserves it less than *someone else* because he didn't perform". Thats c**p because if he didn't deserve to win it, he wouldn't have won it. And don't even go on about the "double diffuser" being the difference. What about Toyota and Williams? They had them as well, so why didn't they win any of those opening races if that single component was the big difference? And what about Red Bull with their unique rear suspension that is hugely beneficial to the way the car drives under these new rules? I don't see you or anyone else saying that gave them an unfair advantage.
As for wins in the second half of the season, did you not read the stats correctly? Do you know nothing of past years? Alonso only won one race in the second half of 2006, and that was round 17. So if Jenson were to win next weekend then he had the same second half to a season as Alonso did. So why oh why oh why is his crown less deserving?
I agree to a certain extent. Button is a fine driver, but I would not rate him with the likes of Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, or maybe even Raikonnen. This of course is just my opinion.
#24: Donald D,
First, I want to reassure that I believe that all the F1 drivers are very talented drivers. (Maybe with exception of 1 or 2) They all deserves their places on the grid. I don't doubt that all at.
My argument is based on being the best of the best. I just do not believe that Jensen and Rubens are the best of the best. I just don't believe that they are champion material. Of course I have been proven wrong since Jensen is now the champion.
In comparison of Jensena and Hamilton, Hamilton has respectfully won 2 races with a car which is basically not a championship winning car. Even Kimi managed to win 1 race in Spa with a under developed car. I have my doubt about Jensen doing the same.
I agree with you and I admit that I am sort of bias because of my perception of Button. Nothing against him as a person. Just that I see him as a driver who only performs with a good car. All his career since 2000 has been like this.
With the best cars, Schumi dorminate until everyone says F1 is boring. Alonso won his 2 titles without having the fastest car on the grid.
#21: SixOneSix,
I understand what you are trying to say based on the statistic you are trying to present. With the number of wins he gets in a season, he is a worthy champions just like the others.
You have omitted the fact that all his 6 wins is from the first 7 races. With 10 more races to go, it would be fair enough to expect him to win another 3 to 5 races. He didn't and in fact performed very unimpressively for too many races in the last 10. Had Vettel not suffered the unusual high number of engine failures, he would have certainly take the title race to Abu Dhabi. Had Mclaren been competitive from race 1, I doubt Jensen will have any chance against Hamilton.
All the champions that you have listed, none of them won all their races in the first half of the season and none in the 2nd half. They are the mark of being a competitive drivers consistently throughout the season. The statistic of this season did not suggest that Button is consistent. Haven't most of us said that the championship is for him to lose?
Yes, it is true. Yet it is also a championship that Vettel and Webber were unable to capatalise on the poor performance of the Brawns drivers. So, in that sense, Jensen was fortunate that he was not heavily penalised for his 2nd half below average performance that would expect of a champion.
I think it might be a good move on Buttons part to move to Mclaren! (perasonally, I think it is posturing on J's part!), Mclaren has had a terrible year, but in the last couple of races, they seem to be getting 'their act together'! They MIGHT be the 'car' to beat next year. Brawn have lost the advantage they had on everybody else, now everybody is catching up to them! So if Ross won't re-sign Button 'PDQ', he should think of a switch!
Barry-Toronto
how many races will Brawn win in the coming year?
Brawn will struggle as all the manufacturers will have caught up to, and some even surpassing the Brawn team.
Why pay the top money when the team will no doubt struggle, as they did at the end of this season.
Bernie has always had a problem with opening his mouth at inopertune times with words that do nothing to resolve the situation at hand. I agree with #6 and several other posts. Brawn do seem to be a bit arrogant and unwilling to honor the sacrifices made by Jenson in terms of his compensation. What I find difficult to understand is that with the modification of his compensation contract, why there weren't any new terms specifically addressing his future compensation when Brawn were more settled financially.
Now that Mercedes have announced, why don't they pitch in and sign Button to a personal services contract designed to make up the outstanding difference. Ross and Nick must resolve this problem as soon as possible unless they really have no intention of doing the honorable thing.
It is remarkable that this is even being disputed. I totally agree with six Jenson took the pain of slashing his pay, forking out for his own travel and even cleaning bills, in a sport that generates millions for the teams surely by taking the crown he should at least be entitled to his reward.
S #6 that's exactly it. And right on jangor #10. He loves to read his quotes in the papers. I only hope he reads these lovely posts. I guess Bernie thinks Ross has never been in F1 before becoming a team principal. He only concerns himself with those who give him money, so if they have a lesser job they don't exist. For crying out loud man, just get out already. Someone please please heave those eggs. I'll gladly cover the fines.
Don't you folks understand Bernie thinks he's God Almighty in all things associated with F1. !! The old Bar-steward just can't help sticking his nose in. However, on this one he is so right. Jenson's deal should have been well sorted out by now. Ross and co consider yourselves b.o.l.l.o.c.k.e.d.
ferraribeng
Assuming you are right - that must make Rubens a pretty poor driver, as he was soundly beaten in those first races while driving an identical car. Secondly, what about the other cars with the double diffuser?
You are beginning to sound a bit biased.
Brad totally agree, would be good to see Button at Mclaren, alongside Hamilton and watch Button ride shotgun for Hamilton, with Riakkonen and Barrichello driving another championship winning car.
englishman.....bernie wouldn't do well under the brick......have you ever picked up a brick that has been laying there for a few years ???
lots of wierd inscects and even snakes......hmmmm....maybe you have something there englishman......
ferraribeng, you really are a perpetual motion machine of ongoing increduality aren't you.
2009: Jenson Button has been crowned World Champion after winning 6 out of the 16 races so far
2008: Lewis Hamilton is crowned Champion having won 5 races from 18 (Felipe Massa won 6)
2007: Kimi Raikkonen won 6 out of 17 to be champion
2006: Fernando Alonso won 7 out of 18 (and only 1 race in the second half of the season)
2005: Fernando won 7 out of 19 (as did Kimi in second)
In direct comparison to this point of the 2009 season, how does he compare?
2009: Jenson has won 6 from 16 so far (just to remind you)
2008: Lewis had won 4 of the first 16 (Felipe had 5)
2007: Kimi had won 5 of the first 16 races that season
2006: Fernando won 6 of the first 16
2005: Fernando won 6 of the first 16 (as did Kimi in second)
I don't see how you can then claim he is less deserving than those that came before him? None of the last 5 championships have been won by someone with more than 6 wins from the first 16 races, so at this point he is as equally deserving as any of them.
But why let the truth ruin your bigotry.
When was the last time a driver won the title not having the best or co-best car? It usually is the case. You have to give Jenson credit for the first half of the season with those 6 wins because you still have to keep the car on the track. I don`t think the diffuser really did much at Monaco and that was a brillient drive. Remember RB had the same car during those first 7 races too. How many wins did he have at that point? I think Jenson got a bit tentative after finding himself in such a strong position and with the press all but saying he had it all wrapped up he got a bit spooked. Who wouldn`t being in his position? Being in the sport for 9 years mostly driving crappy cars with the occasional so so car makes it hard to keep fighting losing battles. To be in a position to be F1 World Champion all of a sudden is quite daunting. A year earlier he was almost unemployed. Remember, Alonso, Kimi, Lewis have all had good cars early on and it`s easier to develop and keep that all so important self confidence. They have no idea what it`s like to drive for SO MANY years in mostly junk. During all of those 9 years NOT ONE time did any of Jenson`s teamates win races either. Button haters might have a point if this were the case. He had some good teamates too including Trulli, Fisichela, R Shumacher. The bottom line is he should get a World Champions wage because he is the champ. It always takes a good car to win and finally he has one so good for him. There isn`t a cleaner driver on the circuit who makes less mistakes. He is in the top 5 for quickness in my opinion and almost always brings the car home in one piece. Besides, there are always 3-5 guys that could win in any car doing the current winning if they were in that car themselves. It`s the nature of the sport.
If he is so magnanimous, why doesn't he (Bernie) simply pay Button's salary.
In this case, everyone would be happy:
- Button, because he's keeping his seat in his beloved team;
- Mr Brawn, happy to spare some money and keep his champion.
- The F1 fans, surprised to discover that the dwarf can be generous.
Can someone really imagine Bernie doing this? Even in my dreams, no.
When was the last time a driver won the title not having the best or co-best car? It usually is the case. You have to give Jenson credit for the first half of the season with those 6 wins because you still have to keep the car on the track. I don`t think the diffuser really did much at Monaco and that was a brillient drive. Remember RB had the same car during those first 7 races too. How many wins did he have at that point? I think Jenson got a bit tentative after finding himself in such a strong position and with the press all but saying he had it all wrapped up he got a bit spooked. Who wouldn`t being in his position? Being in the sport for 9 years mostly driving crappy cars with the occasional so so car makes it hard to keep fighting losing battles. To be in a position to be F1 World Champion all of a sudden is quite daunting. Remember, Alonso, Kimi, Lewis have all had good cars early on and it`s easier to develop that all so important confidence. They have no idea what it`s like to drive for so many years in mostly junk. During all of 9 those years NOT ONE time did any of Jenson`s teamates win races either. Button haters might have a point if this were the case.
Why must short arse always have to have his say? What an obnoxious little turd he is.
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