What are try bars?

Whay are try bars.

"who's ever heard anyone in the peloton say­­ "he only won 'cause he is on­­ something"!!!"

2007 Tour De France, Bradley­ Wiggins.

dopings like try bars & disc wheels. it's down­ to the persons ability at the end of the day? another­ thing who's ever heard anyone in the peloton say­ "he only won 'cause he is on­ something"!!!
dobo.

Innevitable that cycling would be involved, but my­ original point centred on an assumption that any doping­ ring would revolve around prof cycling, which I thought­ was unfair. The Spanish really need to get their house­ in order. At least Italy acknowleges there is a­ serious problem and are working hard to find, catch,­ prosecute and punish riders - even high profile­ offenders like Di Luca, Rebellin, Ricco, Sella etc. ­ The Spanish authoroties are sweeping the issue under­ the carpet by overloading investigators in red tape -­ especially with Valverde. It's shameful.

Spain is doing the things well. Italy only wants to­ knock out riders.
Nadal? Dont make me laugh, please.­ Are you watching the London Master?

Pete - I'd look up 'Sarcasm' if I were you­ :-)

A quick Google has brought up that Olympic race walker­ Francisco Fernandez has been named as someone with­ doping products in his house, but was not detained­ because he was just a 'consumer'. So I guess it­ will be left to his sport's governing body to take­ action.

So it sounds like the police are just­ interested in the suppliers at the moment. Definitely­ positive news - it will have a few sportsmen thinking­ twice before using.

I think the biggest deterrent­ currently is that there are clearly clean riders doing­ well in GTs. It removes that 'everyone's doing­ it' excuse.

What's @#$% about this is Jesús Manzano blew the­ whisle on Viru over two years ago, and nobody listened.

FOR KEIR_WILLIAMS:

Are you out of your tree ! ­ 'Spanish riders are the cleanest in the­ peloton' - you are teasing us right ? Valverde,­ Contadope, Heras, all of Caisse D'espargne, Beltran­ ! Their footballers dive faster than a russian sub ! ­ Nadal is doped to the gills. Thanks for the laugh­ though

This cannot be true. We all know that the Spanish­ riders are the cleanest in the peleton, and surely­ these high ethical standards apply across every sports­ team in their nation.

Spanish police have reportedly detained up to a dozen­ people after uncovering a doping ring. According to­ news agency Efe on Tuesday, Spain's Guardia Civil­ raided homes, pharmacies and clinics linked to Walter­ Viru, the former Kelme cycling team doctor. I GUESS­ CYCLING IS INVOLVED!!!!!

Notice how the first time it's not (just?) cycling­ they fail to name names?

The average football supporter would probably endorse­ doping if it meant supporting a succesful team! ­

Talking of Nadal & 'privacy' isn't it­ just a bit interesting that his new 'slimline'­ shape seems to be producing lower levels of performance­ ......................................

Exactly. Because cycling takes doping seriously and­ tries harder than any other sport to find and punish­ cheats, obviously they catch more. In one way, this is­ positive - cheats are being punished. On the other­ hand, it is negative, as people associate cycling with­ systematic doping as cheats are caught and punished­ with greater frequency and success than other sports. ­ Look at Rio Ferdinand for instance - he was identified­ as breached doping rules, received a (relatively­ lenient punishment, certainly compared to cycling) and­ his reputation is now pretty much untarnished. Compare­ that with the likes of Rasmussen or Basso etc. No­ perspective.

Pedro, maybe this is in Cycling because we are the­ sport that (for the last few years) fights doping­ harder than any other. I suspect other sports would­ show little interest... unfortunately.

Quote Nadal on­ invasion of privacy?

Why is this story listed in the Cycling category? As­ yet, there is no confirmation that cyclists are­ involved. So in essence, Eurosport have a doping story­ and have automatically associated it with cycling. ­ Just like Puerto. Cyclists are not the only cheats in­ the world of professional sport!

Looks good, always positive to put one over on the­ cheats, regardless of which sport(s) this was all­ about.