Hamilton: Webber incident 'just racing'
Lewis Hamilton's Formula One title hopes suffered a major blow after the McLaren driver retired from the Singapore Grand Prix following a collision with championship leader Mark Webber.
Hamilton, in fourth place and on fresh tyres after his pitstop, tried to overtake the Australian on lap 36 after the safety car had come in. But as the Briton moved across Webber's Red Bull into turn seven the cars came together.
Hamilton suffered race-ending damage while Webber was able to continue and finished in third place.
"I saw Mark made a mistake and got caught up with a backmarker so I was in a position to slipstream him ... going into turn seven," said Hamilton, who won in Singapore last year.
"I thought I was enough past him, I couldn't see him and turned in and tried to leave enough room on the inside and the next thing I know I got hit.
"I think it's a racing incident. I came out a bit unfortunate but that's racing."
Hamilton, the 2008 world champion, angrily tossed the steering wheel out of his stricken car after his McLaren came to a standstill. Race stewards investigated the incident but decided to take no further action.
Ferrari's Fernando Alonso won the race ahead of Webber's team mate Sebastian Vettel. McLaren's Jenson Button finished fourth.
It was Hamilton's third retirement in four races and leaves him trailing championship leader Webber by 20 points with four races remaining.
"Twenty points is massive and with four races to go that is a big gap, I have to get my head down and hope for something," added Hamilton.
Webber leads the world championship on 202 points while Alonso's win vaults him into second place on 191. Hamilton slips to third place (182) ahead of Vettel (181) and Button (177).




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The only problem with Lewis is that he makes mistakes when the pressure is on. At Monza, HE crashed into Felipe Massa. At Singapore, HE turned into a corner that clearly wasn't his. Look at it from Webber's view. He is on the inside for the next turn, he sees his closest title rival by the side of him. What does Lewis expect Mark to do? "Go ahead Lewis, you take the corner and i'll finish behind you" Be realistic Lewis. And what's this "I didn't see him" excuse? I'm sorry but you're not clearly infront of him, yet you decide to turn in and risk your place in the championship, for an extra 3 points? People who say it was Webber's fault need to watch the replay again. Hamilton's left-rear was by the side of Webber's front-right, no discussion. And as for people saying that Vettel has taken loads of points off of Webber, you clearly don't know what your talking about. Oh yeah, I forgot that Vettel crashed into Button at Spa and Webber made up two places.
The unluckiest driver of the year is Vettel. How many times has his car let him down or he's had bad luck? Let's see...
Bahrain 1st to 4th (13 points lost), Australia 1st to DNF (25 points lost), Spain 2nd to 3rd (3 points lost),
Silverstone 2nd to 7th (12 points lost). A total of 53 points lost because of car malfunctions and bad luck. On the flip side, due to Vettel's driving errors, he has only lost 30 points (Turkey 2nd place) & (Spa 4th place). Compare that to Hamilton's driving errors, Spain (2nd with two laps left and crashed because of heavy impact to left front)
(18 points), Monza (crashed on first lap being too agressive) (12 points), Singapore (crashed because of agressive manouvere on Webber) (12 points). Hamilton has lost 42 points because of on-track errors, whereas Vettel has only lost 30 points due to errors. Vettel is a more rounded driver this year than Hamilton, no discussion.
Bartman has written probably the best explaination for this accident that I have read and is completely spot-on, and as I am also a Lewis Hamilton and Mclaren fan, I can see what he is saying about Martin Whitmarsh. Fact is, second race in a row, Mclaren race and Qualifying strategy cost them, different setups in Monza forced Lewis to be behind Felipe Massa in Qualifying and cost him badly on lap one in the race. However, the mistakes made in Singapore are glaring- not pitting both Mclaren drivers when their tyres started to go off was so stupid it cost Lewis a poduim and caused him to go for it which was the right thing to do when he did, just the execution which was great but then for no reason Lewis swerved to the right- too give Mark more room - if he hadn't have done that actually there wouldn't have been an accident because he would have been ahead of him. I am not gonna have a go at Jenson but sitting behind Webber's damaged car and allowing him to take 3rd was a bit cowardly- Mr Hold station again, shame because I was impressed with Button in Monza. So really from Mclaren point of view a poor race for both drivers- lets pray that the upgrade for Japan works because if not, both drivers will not win the world championship in the third-fastest car!
#170 But that's just it, I'm a motor sports fan. I should like F1 and tune in every race to see the pinnacle of race car development fired around some fine circuits. It should be a fantastic spectacle but on most occasions fans have very little to talk about. e.g. the hamilton/webber thing and someone's engine catching fire. In two hours of racing there should be a bit more to talk about. In the end, F1 fans revert to tread depth, wing settings, ride height etc in an effort to make it sound interesting. You can't tell me that Monza was triumph for F1; one incident on turn 4 and a mistimed pitstop makes a race does it? It was a procession. I've heard that doctors are issuing DVD's of F1 races as a cure for insomnia; a couple of laps and patients are certain to be in the land of nod dreaming of Moto GP.
Looks like bubbles is going bald !!!!!!
Sorry guys - comment at 189 should read Whitmarsh (not Hindmarsh)
Bartman, I know what you mean but I think that Lewis never had enough time in the bag to stay ahead of Webber after a stop. Webber kept dropping back and the team were hoping that would continue, howver the tables turned and it was lewis that was dropping back, he never had a chance
I have to agree with the comments from Mr Bateman at180.
Martin Hindmarsh determines team strategy the same way he orders his coffees - "One with and One without please"
Ashley Cole is that you?
Regards, #26 Blues
L Hamilton has matured greatly this year. His assumption of responsibilty several times this year indicate this; his skill and competitive nature "told" him to overtake Webber. Webber being notably fair-minded and competitive did not want that to happen...that would be F1 racing. Hamilton in the past would have taken the low road and placed blame elsewhere; not this year and good on him. Fear not he will win a lot of races and at least two more championships. On the other hand, Webber has paid his dues (and has lost how many points this year because of Vettel?) and this will be his one and only/last time to win the championship. Hamilton v Vettel for years to come.
(NEWSFLASH)
red Bull's have just realised there new tactic of taking out McLaren, is backfiring, and handing the championship to Alonso, Vettel is to torpedo Alonso at the next race.
Just like in Monza, no one was to blame. RACING INCIDENT. Just because it's LH, every A -hole has to make a comment.
FFS they are racing! What do you expect? Give the boy his due... he had to take advantage of being close (due to the SC) and OVERTAKE as his car was shown to be well off the pace of the RBs and BSs.
the season's almost done... and there was nothing to cheer about since rubens seems contented to eat the dust!
Stephen @ 169....Well done, mate...couldnt have said it better myself....nice one, totally agree!
Jenson "Hold Station!" @ 152....You definite ly must be one of JBs `F`ag-boy` followers....either that or you are totally high on drugs all the time....JB even got orders at Singapore to "C`mon Jenson, 10 laps to go....lets really push them ALL THE WAY.....!".....What did Mr Average do....exactly what he`s done half the season....he put in ONE quick lap....then sat back crimping and yes you`ve guessed it...."Held Station!"
its know official that lewis is actually human and i think he will become champion again this year lets have faith in our british sportsman lewis hamilton........
Nice to see that some Hamilton fans write comments in a respectful way, with a lot of common sense and without any arrogance. Thank you Mr. Bartman at # 180 for being such a person. I would have to disagree with you regarding who's the best driver. I definitely don't believe that Lewis Hamilton has reached the pinnacle of F1 driving. There is a large consensus that Alonso is the best at the moment, due to his large experience, his contribution to developing performing cars and his personal skills. Regarding martin Whitmarsh, it seems to me difficult to blame him on the problems encountered by Lewis Hamilton. Remember Ron Dennis was present at the last few races, too. Besides, Whitmarsh would not make any decisions without a consultation with his team. I believe that Lewis Hamilton needs more experience and a better car to be able to become a genuine # 1. Only my thoughts!
Bartman that's true, and is not the first time the team makes a failure... to mention Spa, when Hamilton almost retires after not entering to switch wheels...gladly it all ended good after that... but i belive they have been a bit over the limit with the team tactics... however i want to belive that Hamilton didn't pitstop before because of the possible trafic he could find afterwards... but still.. i would need to actually check the timers sincei can't remember the cars after him.. and still it's better to find cars than to have Webber overtaking you :(
he was in my blind spot!!!!! had he not just got half a length in front of webber, where did hamilton think he'd gone then just 'disappeared'. Mind you I think this is maybe the first time I've heared hamilton own up to being in a 'racing accident'
Hello guys, I am a McLaren and Lewis Hamilton fan and I believe, that Lewis is the best driver on the grid today. However, I have been telling my colleagues all year that I sincerely believe that the issue with the team is with the Team Principal, Martin Whitmarsh. Despite Mr Whitmarsh being in some leadership capacity while Ron Dennis was Team Principal, he (Whitmarsh) has not demonstrated in almost 2 years that he is up to the task.
It was due to McLaren's poor tact in critical decision making last Sunday which contributed massively to Hamilton's demise. Mark was p11 positions after his tyre change and he was literally going backwards before the tyres began to work for him. Lewis was in p3 with Jensen way back in p4 and Mark bringing up the rear for the major title contenders.
Martin Whitmarsh and McLaren mistake was not to call Lewis in for a tyre change to cover off Mark, Jensen would continue to back Webber up and cover off for Lewis and by doing this McLaren would not be forced to instruct Lewis to attack Mark right after the safety car exited. McLaren need to take a hard and long look at the performance of Team Principal, he has not delivered and does not seem to be able to, if he was in the Premier League, he would be a goner.
What say you?
LB
Race stewards investigated the incident but decided to take no further action.
That was fail, a drive trough would be the perfect thing... no need of more... buuuut what happens? there was a safety car, so mark would have lost all possible points.. that's why they didnt give him a penalty... and to be honest it shouldnt matter... racing incident or not it screwed other's race.. that's the ONLY time you actually apply a penalty..
However tehre is nothing to do about it, so lets leave it :)
Mike yeah you are right.. i have said several times that Webber is not that great pilot.. he is so freaking lucky aswell... just check out the OUT OF RACE numbers.. and check the races in a neutral point.
Lest see how the championship ends, still a long way to go.. 3 or 4 races can do a lot.
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