aresnal/wenger are paranoid - because they have a­ reputation of being the dirtiest team

jason your clearly not football fan.stick to­ countdown,no one likes a smartarse

I WONDER IF PEOPLE WILL BE SO UNDERSTANDING IF IT WAS­ ROONEY OR STEVE G THAT THE STOKE BLOKE BROKE HIS LEG.­ THE PRESS AND THE WHOLE ENGLISH PUBLIC WON'T BE­ VERY UNDERSTANDING. BUT, HEY! IT WAS RAMSEY AND ARSENAL­ SO ITS NOT THAT BAD.
FOR PEOPLE ATTACKING ARSENE­ WENGER, YOU GUYS MOST BE STUPID. THIS IS A MAN THAT IN­ THE PAST 4 YRS HAS WITNESSED THREE OF HIS PLAYERS GOT­ THEIR LEGS BROKEN. SIR ALEX HAS BEEN MANAGING IN THE PL­ FOR MORE THAN 20 YRS AND I DON'T THINK HE HAS GOT­ THAT KIND OF RECORD WITH HIS PLAYERS. OF COURSE, WENGER­ HAS GOT EVERY RIGHT TO BE ANGRY BECAUSE ITS NO LONGER A­ COINCIDENCE.
THE STOKE BLOKE MAY NOT HAVE ANY INENTION­ TO BREAK RAMSEY'S LEG BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE KNEW­ WHEN HE WAS GOING FOR THE TACKLE THAT IT WAS A BAD ONE­ THAT MIGHT INJURE RAMSEY. SO, LETS NOT MAKE HIM OUT AS­ THE VICTIM BECAUSE THE ONLY VICTIM IN THIS WHOLE­ HORRIBLE SITUATION IS LYING IN THE HOSPITAL WITH PAINS­ AND FEAR OF HIS FUTURE. THE STOKE BLOKE WILL CONTINUE­ WITH HIS CAREER, HE HAS EVEN BEING CALLED UP TO THE­ NATIONAL TEAM. HE MAY STILL GO TO THE WORLD CUP WHILE­ POOR RAMSEY AND ARSENAL WILL BE BEARING THE SCARE OF­ THIS INCIDENT FOR MONTHS TO COME.

...er, a PS for the more sedate pub quiz later on:­ actually, it's 'pidgin', not­ 'pidgen'! tee-hee! :)

i have never commented on this site but have read it­ quite often.i think that shawcross is unlucky 2 be sent­ off it was only when the ref saw the poor lads leg that­ he got out the red card.i feel sad 4 both parties ,1­ for young ramsy who i hope 2 see back on the field­ playing asap(even though im a man u fan)and 4­ shawcross, who i think has played himself into a world­ cup place and who as never been sent off in his career­ can recover 2 because ,unlike the edwardo challenge­ which i feel was much worse, showed no real remorse­ from taylor. That definately was a red card and what­ happened 2 him? He's now playing on loan somewhere­ because of that.Wenger, however, as usual, thinks that­ he went out 2 hurt him but that's the arse man all­ over.

Hammer for ever....you're dick....but then again­ look who you support...not surprising....@#$% head

As a life long Gooner I was devastated that once­ again one of players was carried off on a stretcher­ with an apalling injury sustained by a reckless­ tackle....do I think Shawcross meant to break his­ leg...NO....does he have past forn YES......WAS IT­ RECKLESS YES......will most clubs stop us by fair means­ or foul....cos we 'don't like physical­ football'....YES....enough said...shame on­ him...I'm glad he was crying...so he should.....may­ it haunt him for the rest of his career....as it will­ Ramsey.....AS FOR MY TEAM..I AM SO PROUD OF THEM...ALL­ OF THEM......THEY ROSE ABOVE AND DELIVERED....NO­ CONSOLATION BUT IT SHOWED THEY'RE METTLE..NOW WE­ JUST NEE TO GET BETTER AT THE REALLY DIRTY­ STUFF.....ARSENAL TO WIN THE PREM.....WE'VE EARNT­ IT...LETS GO OUT AND GET IT......

Once again ol' Garlic muncher Wenger thinks the­ world is against him!!! English football has always­ been a physical game and if the foriegners can't­ take it then perhaps Cisy Fatass and Bentkraut should­ f*** off back to the lands from which they crawled out­ from and let some English players get on the Gooners­ team sheet!!!

not a arse fan but did shawcross break jeffers leg and­ pu him out for 18mths,not a dirty player cough

Arsen Wenger comments regarding the accident to his­ player Aaron Ramsey were uncalled for. Ryan Shawcross­ was greatly upset by what happened and one would be­ foolish to say that it was a deliberate attempt to put­ anyone out of the game. Be more sporting Arsen and lift­ yourself above the thoughts that everyone is out to get­ at Arsenal. Our thoughts are with Aaron Ramsey and it­ is hoped that he will make a speedy recoverey.

Some players need to be punished brutally by the FA, to­ eradicate this kind of babaric tackles! Even some car­ accidents to break and bend ones leg like that...this­ is why i hate all this small teams, that have no flair,­ intelligence and technique...just raw aggression, and­ work rate, the boltons of this world and now­ stokes...

i was utaly discrased with the tackle that acccured on­ aaron ramsey i felt sorry for the long lad and hope­ that such a good player will return as quickly as­ possible ...

Tolulope, you really should have seen Keane end­ Haglunds career very deliberately before writing that!­ That aside your comments are fair ones. It's my­ beliefe that managers shouldn't be pressed for­ comments straight after a match, Wenger's been­ caught out like this before. It's emotional enough­ if it's just a game of football being talked about,­ let alone such a horrendous injury. Add to that that ­ English is not his first language, and you get comments­ being made that allow scorn to be thrown at him, when­ in actual fact what he was saying was pretty restrained­ and reasonable. Okay I'm prepared to bet that when­ Tony Pullis, or Sam Alladyce, or Steve Bruce etc etc­ give their prematch team talk when playing Arsenal they­ say essentially this. "Let them know you're­ there from the first whistle", "get the ball,­ but follow through and soften them up", "keep­ tight hammer them as soon as they're in­ possession"... we all know they don't like t­ hard, so give it to them hard... And that's what­ every lesser team has done since Mark Hughs worked out­ the tactics a few years back at Blackburn. Referees­ have allowed this to pass un penalised. This ups the­ anti unfortunately. This atmosphere of machismo leads­ to Ramsey in hospital. Without the pressure to be hard­ Shawcross would have choked back on that tackle. It­ would never have happened. If refs penalised it,­ managers wouldn't brief their teams to do it. My no­ means was that a mega bad tackle, but the ball was­ lost, there was no need for a tackle at all. IT WAS­ INTENDED AS PART OF THE SOFTENING UP PROCESS, NOT TO­ MAIME, but maime it has. Pullis is a thug manager­ without the humility to accept his part in this­ scenario. I've heard people say, "what should­ teams do then? Try and play football and get­ thrashed?" Answer is "Yes!" If not, why­ not use weapons? Attack dogs? Within the actual laws­ Arsenal are better, you can't change the

iTS A TERRIBLE SHAME AND I JUST HOPE HE GETS BETTER­ SOON.

I was born to witness the most entertaining game played­ with such finesses that your stuck up with teams like­ Arsenal. Football is all about fair play. Serious­ actions should be taken about such dangerous tackles.­ Ramsey, I wish you a quick recovery. Gunners 4 life.

@828..........i think you need to calm down, i do play­ football funnily enough and have witnessed incidents­ similar to this, so you can retract that.

With­ reference to your daft comment....."Arsenal have­ suffered 3 broken­ legs since 2006, tell me another­ team to have that??­"

I think as someone else­ pointed out on here, Liverpool suffered quite a few­ within a lesser time frame....Warnock, Carragher and­ Cisse (would have included Baros but think his was an­ ankle?). So grow up and stop believing this only­ happens to Arsenal you idiot.

tolulope......well said and full respect to you.

WR­ Arsenal fan

I was born to witness the most entertaining game played­ with such finesses that your stuck up with teams like­ Arsenal. Football is all about fair play. Serious­ actions should be taken about such dangerous tackles.­ Ramsey, I wish you a quick recovery.

I have to take issue with those people who keep­ referring to football as a MANS GAME.
It is my view­ that football and the players are now commodities to be­ bought and sold on the whims of ruthless­ businessmen.
The kind of money invested in players is­ the reason why AARON RAMSEY will be seen by these­ parasites as an investment lost.
The fact that this­ very talented player may lose his career is a secondary­ issue to these people.
If i was working for any of the­ football clubs involoved,You would hear their lawyers­ pens rattling right now.
Our once beatiful game is­ being reduced to no more than just a side show for­ those people who seek to exploit players like AARON­ RAMSEY.
I just hope his recovery is as successful as­ EDUARDOS.

I am an Arsenal fan, and hold no grudge with Shawcross.­ It is obvious there was no malice in the tackle­ and it is just a freak accident. I imagine he­ feels like crap today over what happened. Hope Aaron­ makes a complete recovery.