As i predicted on comment 21-Dwanyne Peel "We­ gotta go back to the drawing board" i'd like­ to know how big this drawing board is and where­ it's kept cause they seem to use it alot but never­ seem able to retain what it said on that effing­ "drawing board" after these repeated­ lacklustre loses?
The other old classic for­ Dwanye-"we'll learn lessons from this"­ ffs how many times do we hear this @#$% the day after­ when they're safely tucked up nicely back at the­ vale of glamorgan hotel with no ozzie in sight, it seem­ the only person who earns his money on a consistent­ basis is the welsh PR man who coaches them with excuses­ for pathetic performances-final thought i wonder if we­ could borrow the PR man "drawingboard"­ instead of the welsh management cause it appears the­ welsh team are far better when retaining the excuses­ drawingboard appossed to the gameplan/management­ drawingboard???
WHEN THE WELSH TEAM MAN UP AT THE­ COLLISION AND FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE THEN THEY CAN BURN­ THE EFFING "DRAWING BOARD"

I hate to say it but Martyn Williams is past it Powell­ never reached it Tom James runs away from the­ line-breaker. The only time we looked creative was when­ Biggar played.

Welsh team for Sais match...
Jenkins, Rhys, Jones,­ AWJones, Thomas, D Jones, Williams, R Jones,
Phillips,­ Jones, S. Williams, Hook, Roberts, Halfpenny,­ Byrne

Dont mind who england pick, Wales win by­ 20.
Cant wait.
Ryan Jones heavily missed yesterday.­ Lets put it behind us and move on...

Wales have got to go back to the drawing board,and make­ changes,less kicking,and get back to the more­ traditional way of playing rugby,by passing the ball­ and creating chances to score try's.

Simon W-yes, if Wales had played out of their socks­ with fire & passion but lost I would be happier. I­ really thought that they would come out in the SECOND­ half determined to redeem themselves. Perhaps they did­ care, perhaps they were desperately trying to live up­ to the devotion of their loyal supporters. It just­ didn't look like it. They are well paid­ professionals these days, not steel workers exhausted­ after a hard week at the foundry. They are supposed to­ be able to cope with injuries to team mates and other­ setbacks. Nobody wins all the time,but....
Oh-and­ sorry,its daft to say Wales should come to terms with­ not being able to play at this level. Based on that­ sort of thinking no one would ever get better than­ anything, and neither of the so called golden ages of­ Welsh rugby would ever have happened because someone­ would have said 'lets face it, we can't cope at­ this level'.
Off to find a cat to kick.

Would a plane fly on course if a trained stewardess to­ the flight controls.
Would a ship navigate the seas­ with a trained cabin steward at the helm.

How on earth­ can a national side perform to the high standards­ required when players are picked in positions they­ don’t even play for their clubs.

The main reason for­ this lies, I believe, in the regions who opt for­ overseas players in these positions leaving Wales with­ a depleted resource of international standard.

Another­ reason could be the choice of coaching staff. Do­ international players need a kicking coach or would a­ specialist prop who can coach be a better use of­ finances.

I believe that Gatland & Edwards are a­ good partnership but the rest I would change.

Wales­ resemble the Mary Celeste without a captain. They have­ passed the theory and practical but in reality have­ lost direction.

Have to agree with most of what comment 17 said, Powell­ simply isn't doing what he did when he first got­ into the team(getting over gain line) and Steven Jones­ can't get a back line going for toffee-James Hook­ should have been picked at 10 for the 4 games and why­ isn't Stodart given his chance? Halfpenny is to­ small and is targeted by opposition teams particularly­ with the high cross kick- most worrying for me and­ something i simply can't get my head around is the­ body language of the welsh team? I'd give my left­ testicle to be on the pitch to be given the chance to­ wear that shirt just once and yet they didn't look­ like they could really gave a S.HIT???
And you wait­ till scrum 5 tonight we'll hear the usually drivel­ by some PR primed player giving it"we're going­ in the right direction" "da boys are hurting­ and can't quite work out where it went wrong"­ As comment 17 pointed out it is simple what went wrong­ 15 ozzie's from 12000 miles away seemed to care far­ more about their jersey than the home team?? I for 1 am­ fed up of excuses from this team when they have the­ best facilities of any team in the world-for me its­ quite simple they aren't mentally stronger enough­ and when it really matters most of them simply roll­ over to the will of the opposition???

Stephen Jones and Andy Powell should go?? In Stephen­ Jones's case he has had an excellent Autumn as an­ individual and I cant understand criticism of him­ perhaps its because of his solid effortless style, he­ is a strong and clever player and the reason he was the­ first choice fly half for the Lions, granted he is not­ the flashiest player on the turf but one of the­ best.

Powell is not the error prone player he was, he­ is great in defence and has stopped most of his stupid­ ball loosing errors, and I hope he will continue to­ grow as a player if he carries on being selected.

Hope­ Wales learn from the trashing they had last night and­ start off the six nations with a win againt the old­ enemy!

Wales where out played and out classed in this match -­ the Aussies are bring in some great young players and­ are not as bad as the tri nation results suggest. If­ they had played like this against the other home­ nations then there would have been 30+ next to there­ names at the end of all the matches. Wales where bad,­ very bad and we need to step up like we did against NZ,­ yes we lost but we created lots as we did in our other­ two games and with players back and that bit of luck it­ will all be good. Howerver this match showed that we­ dont quite have the depth we need! With Shanklin,­ Burns, Adam Jones, Ryan Jones (back to his best and was­ badly missed as captain), hate to say it Henson out and­ then losing to very big players in Halfpenny and­ Williams who would have scored at some point then i­ think we can be positive going forward. The 6 nations­ is wide open and we are in with a shout. PLEASE PLEASE­ PLEASE Stop playing Powell, he is a one track pony and­ not good enough!!!

Australia excellent, Wales woeful.
Only ever going to­ be one result.
Every Welsh player should question his­ effort and performance. Very disappointing.
Need a good­ 4rse kicking and need to play with more passion and­ determination, which is exactly what the Aussies did­ yesterday.
Worst Wales performance for 5 or 6 years.
It­ is not Gatland's fault that players don't­ perform. They lost every 50/50 challenge to guys who­ wanted it more.
Simple.

Hook should be playing every game- but NOT at full­ back. He is a great talent which is being­ wasted-perhaps a victim of his own ability to play­ reasonably well in several positions. OK- Byrne is out­ injured. Does that mean that when he comes back Hook­ will be dropped & forgotten about? Why not use the­ Autumn internationals to try other potential­ international full backs who actually play in that­ position normally? OK-it might not have worked, but we­ might have learned some useful lessons for the next 2­ seasons.
I don't like being negative about­ individuals, but I think Stephen Jones & Andy­ Powell should go. Both whole hearted, no doubt, but­ Powell loses the ball too often and Jones is just too­ slow. Not convinced by Peel either, but OK we have­ problems at scrum half at the moment. Halfpenny is­ potentially one of the greats, but he gives away a­ penalty at least once a game by hanging on to the ball­ after a tackle. Perhaps there is some deeply technical­ reason for that which I don't understand?­
Anyway-VERY disappointing from Wales- we all thought­ we'd suffer a backlash from the Aussies who­ didn't want to go home on a loss. Surely Wales­ should have expected them to come out like a rocket in­ the first 20 minutes? Did no-one suggest to them that­ they should do the same? I was worried about the Welsh­ body language after the first couple of tries. You­ could almost hear them thinking 'Oh well, never­ mind-nice hot shower in an hour or so'. At least­ no-one is using the excuse that Shane & Halfpenny­ were injured early on-well not yet, anyway.
Thank God­ we didn't spend a vast amount of money on actually­ GOING.
Congrats to Australia. And Ireland!

dont understand why wales can only play one way.No­ adaptablity to conditions or game.Where was captain­ sorting out forwards.Hook so predictable.B ut aussies­ wan ted it more and deserved it.

I think its time Wales came to terms with the fact that­ they really are not good enough to play at this­ level-constant dissapointment thanks to the hype­ generated by the media-perhaps the job of the national­ team should be contracted out to a local team from New­ Zealand.

Get rid of the coach are you nuts we could end up with­ some one like M JOHNSON lets stick with Gatland at­ least he nows what hes doing.Well played Australia.We­ will be back for the 6 nations with a full first team

jcastledineruiz - France a good bet to beat the­ Kiwi's? You look a bit stupid now don't­ you?

And why are SA the "great pretenders"?­ World and Tri-Nations Champions and Lions conquerors­ isn't pretending buddy. You take a bit too much­ stock of these autumn internationals - sure,­ there's no such thing as a friendly in rugby, but­ they really don't mean that much in the greater­ scheme of things. This isn't sour grapes - Ireland­ deserved their win - just as much as they deserved to­ beat us in the Autumn international before we won the­ World Cup, the same World Cup Ireland didn't turn­ up to. So much for pretending...

Physically we were beaten up front (where the game is­ either won or lost.)
We were always on the back foot­ as a result.
Giteau had the time with quick ball what­ time did Jones have?
Enough of this blame culture­ let's be more analytical.
I too am disappointed­ but I think we have to get our front five right first
­ alma

As a die-hard Welsh Rugby fan, I have to agree that­ this was one of the worst Welsh performances in many a­ year. Shame it had to happen on the same day as the­ Aussies were superb!
Well done Australia.
Wake up,­ Wales!

I've heard the same old story from coaches and­ players for far to long which can only conclude in that­ there is no substance, genuine conviction or­ professional attitude, both on and off the field of­ play. The Australian scrum was a laughing stock until a­ certain coach with the technical ability and discipline­ instilled pride back into the national team.
These­ excuses are not acceptable in the armature game why­ should they be acceptable from players and coaches who­ are paid an extortionate amount of money to produce­ this farce. The Welsh rugby fans are the most loyal in­ the world it's time the Welsh team repaid that­ loyalty with loyalty, honesty and professional­ integrity instead of a cloak of pretence.
It's time­ for the action of real accountability to be enforced­ against players and coaches who don't provide the­ goods.
I personally believe that Howely and McBride­ should go as they don't seem to have that ability­ to coach the improvements needed.

jcastledineruiz

You might be wrong with your France­ victory prediction.....

if wales lose has to be the refs fault not the way the­ other team played wallabies far to strong today and­ played the game well to end a bad tour on a high