Jim White

Suarez row deepens bitter divide

Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra will come face-to-face once againThe fall-out from a few ill-spoken words continues. At Wembley, the England coach and FA chairman sit down together to discuss whether the coach is in breach of his contract. Why might he be? Because he spoke out about the sacking of his captain, something he believes should not have happened without his consent.

And why did the blazers strip his captain of the armband? Well, let's not go there. That is legal territory through which you require the razor-sharp brain of a Joey Barton to tread.

Meanwhile, in Manchester, the locals are preparing themselves to offer a warm welcome to a visitor from Merseyside. You may have heard Luis Suarez is set to make an appearance at Old Trafford for Liverpool on Saturday. And thanks to one particular word, uttered he claims without malice but taken as such, the relationship between English football's two most successful clubs - an opposition which, at the best of times, might be described as fractious - has turned sectarian.

It is never exactly pleasant when United and Liverpool meet. It's the loathing of similarity: these are two cities, two clubs with far more in common than they have in opposition. The rivalry is bitter, noisy, intense. But on Saturday it promises to be a degree or two uglier. Over the Suarez issue there is no mutual ground. The gap between the two sides is enormous.

Liverpool fans — taking their lead from the public remarks of their manager — believe they are the victims of a malevolent conspiracy. Never mind what Suarez may or may not have said — and surely since he wears a red shirt it cannot have been anything untoward — the response from the football establishment in banning him was vindictive and driven by a determination to do Liverpool down.

Since Manchester United are at the heart of that establishment, they — and their lying full-back — are wholly responsible for Liverpool's isolation. And Liverpool will always stand by their man.

My club right or wrong has long been a guiding tenet of faith of the football fan. That is largely what support is about. Or should be. You stand by your team. You stand by your man. Unless he happens to be Roy Hodgson, obviously.

Meanwhile United fans, who, in the past have held grudging — if privately expressed — respect for Liverpool's traditions, culture and accomplishments, are simply baffled by the club's behaviour over Suarez.

They were at Anfield for the FA Cup tie recently, they heard the public address announcer insist that any form of racial abuse would not be tolerated there, they saw the posters all round the ground suggesting that if any patrons heard any hint of racial abuse they should report it to the nearest steward. And yet, when one of their players did precisely that, he was called a liar by the club's senior representatives and viciously booed by 40,000 home fans.

Where, they wonder, is the logic in that? Surely it can't be one law for a supporter — the kind of bloke who, if found guilty of racially abusing a visiting player from Oldham for example, would be rightly and swiftly barred from the ground — and another for a star forward, the one player in the current Liverpool squad with the striking qualities to turn all those draws into victories? Surely not.

No doubt there will be morons among the United support who reckon the Suarez business gives them validation to sing their horrible chant about Hillsborough, as they did at Anfield. Nothing justifies that. There is a big difference between iconoclasm and profanity and that particular number long ago stepped over the breach.

And if they do, the Liverpool followers would not be alone in being outraged. Indeed we can expect, across the internet in the days leading up to the game and at Old Trafford itself, an endless tit-for-tat of name calling and self-justification, a surfeit of 'they started it' whinging and 'never mind what we're chanting, can you hear what they're singing' complaining.

On the day we can expect a stadium transformed by rivalry into a classroom full of five year olds each trying to get the other told off by teacher.

It would be nice if we could rather concentrate on the football, on the test Suarez provides for United's less than sturdy defence, on the manner in which Liverpool's muscular approach at set pieces so successfully undermined United keeper David de Gea at Anfield, on the difference the return of Nani and Tom Cleverley will make to the home side. But there is no way that will happen.

Instead, we will be obliged to reflect on the growing Glasgow-isation of the Premier League's most explosive fixture. And like the Old Firm games, indefensible as the off-pitch nonsense is, there is no denying it adds a degree of intensity and excitement to the occasion that cannot be matched elsewhere. Whatever your view, this one matters.

 
  • Biola  •  Brighton, England  •  3 months ago
    I pray the two teams let a sleeping dog lie... the issue should not re-surface again, and in the interest of football, put it to bed. Football it is, and football it must be. As a Man Utd supporter, our fans should not create any tension or hype the situation. Hopefully, Liverpool fans too, must ensure they refrain from making angry or provocative remarks, chants on saturday. Please, let's give peace a chance. Up Man Utd, glory glory Man Utd...
    • tiredofthegreed 3 months ago
      The real supporters will be more interested in the game. The hangers on associated with both clubs will be the ones shouting bile to each other.
    • wayne h 3 months ago
      LFC winning 1-3;- no noise or stress!
  • David  •  Hull, England  •  3 months ago
    The media love this. An incident which has been dealt with by the authorities (Suarez has served his sentance) is being constantly dragged up ny mediocre journo's who cant write proper articles. If you stop writing and discussing the issues then they dont keep working people up and stirring up emotions.
    As a Rangers fan I am brutally aware of the problem the cavalier attitude of certain elements of the press can cause. A &E rooms in Glasgow are busier at old firm weekends. Fact. Even when the management of both teams are conducting themselves with respect the press would rather focus not on football but on religious intolerence that they themselves helped to instigate over a hundred years ago.
    The media are just as guilty as any of the footballers and fans accused of prejudices
    • tiredofthegreed 3 months ago
      Yes, and too many people are making a living off the back of it. Time the gravy train was derailed and these lot got proper jobs.
  • Sadoldgit  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
    who cares about football. lets get back to the real subject which is now simply racisim simply say anything to anyone and your are prejudice in someway. I am English but i do not know what being English is anymore thanks to all this racist hypocrisy
    • Beans 3 months ago
      forgive me if i'm wrong but does it mean for you to feel 'English' you need to hurl racist insults at other people?
  • JOHN  •  Liverpool, England  •  3 months ago
    sensationalistic rubbish... talk about milk the cow dry, this waste of time of an article is nothing more tha incitement to hatred and all that is bad in hac reporting on a non issue... grow up yahoo
  • Dan  •  St Albans, England  •  3 months ago
    same old same old soooooooooo predictable by you i know wot its about by now
  • MRMAGIC1968  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
    Pro football has come a long way, thesport did not need these two over paid dimwits to set it back 30yrs. If only some people kept thier racist remarks to themselfs and thier families we would'nt be in this postion.
  • PHINEAS  •  Stevenage, England  •  3 months ago
    Capelo is also racist so he cant be trusted to make a sound decision, period
  • Valerie  •  Ilford, England  •  3 months ago
    About time these OLD story lines were put in the rubbish bin, easy article to write going over old ground and adding fuel to the fire. Any new stories out there!!!
    • Jose Goran Martinez 3 months ago
      It's not an old story, it's ahot topic, the flames of which were eloquently fanned by the blinkered fool Dalgleish on Monday night.
  • John  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
    You would have thought that an experienced international like Patrice Evra should have approached the Liverpool captain during the match or Dalgliesh after the game and asked them to have a word with Suarez and if that had no effect then a complaint to the PFA would have been in order. He would then have had the esteem of his fellow players. Involving the FA does suggest that the club recognised that a situation would be created that would prove to be to their advantage.
  • DAVID  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
    pity its not like the old days where footballers were true sports men now they are all just overpaid spoilt brats
  • Caroline  •  3 months ago
    You should have sat where we sat in Anfield, to hear the filth from the Man U
  • briant  •  Birmingham, England  •  3 months ago
    dont support either team....hard pressed to support football these days....but got very angry when liverpool manager stated his player should never have been away.....is he stating,that despite his player pleading guilty,he wasnt actually guilty of racism?.......football is about the colour of the team,s shirt NOT THE PLAYER.......
  • Jason  •  Brighton, England  •  3 months ago
    No Jim White, not a malevolent conspiracy to keep Liverpool down. How dare you speak for all Liverpool fans when you yourself openly support Manchester United? There are some i suspect that think Manchester United have too much influence over the FA, as has to some extent once again been proved over the weekend in light of Fergus' unpunished personal attack on a linesman. Moreover, for me at least, there is the sense that the jumped up FA have got carried away in their efforts to get one over Sepp Blatter on some moral crusade against racism and Suarez is the man in the wrong place at the wrong time. I suspect the embarrassment of the England Captain being involved in similar accusations also has some bearing on their overly harsh punishment based on the testament of one man and no other evidence.

    The FA's so called independent panel passed a judgement more harsh than that which can be given out in a court of law on the basis of someone being 'probably' guilty in their opinion. If that's not open to question by the club and the fans then the FA are some kind of dictatorship. Hey and guess what, mistakes are made even by the courts, ask the Birmingham 6 and Derek Bentley. Ah, you can't ask Derek he's dead and buried a bit like Suarez's reputation.
  • busybee  •  Milton Keynes, England  •  3 months ago
    Mr White, I am confused why you feel it necessary to actually want to discuss it, if you think we should just concentrate on the football.

    With respect to the liverpool defence of their man, it is actually down to the inconsistencies in the report... Evra admitted that he started the whole 'argument' by making the most disgusting comments to Suarez in Spanish. He did this in Suarez's language to provoke a response, and yet he has not been sanctioned. Similarly, he was provided the opportunity to discuss and narrate video evidence yet Suarez was not entitled to see it at that time. Furthermore, he was held up as a credible witness because he was articulate. Suarez is inarticulate in English, had not been given access to the video evidence that Evra had seen, and so his hesitant responses were concluded as less than credible. furthermore, other witnesses heard nothing on the pitch, yet David de Gea, who speaks spanish was 5ft away. Ryan Giggs and ferguson were called, because Evra told them what happened after the game. It was a mess, and should have been thrown out of 'court' with some harsh words to both players & clubs about future conduct!

    As much as I am gratified that you make reference to some utd fans singing about hillsborough, you need to be corrected. It is actually entire sections, and it is at every match, not this isolated game v liverpool. If you stand on the kop, liverpool fans are not interested in utd unless that is the opposition, and even then i would be surprised if you could find any evidence of munich songs. If you are with utd fans, irrespective of who they are playing, you will hear sections of fans singing about hillsborough. I wonder if anyone has the bottle to report them, because i find that far more offensive and objectionable than the isolated morons who have been caught making racist chants recently.
  • peter  •  3 months ago
    BOTH CLUBS HAVE HAD FAR BETTER TEAMS IN THE PAST THAN THEY HAVE NOW, BUT HAVING SAID THAT IT SHOULD BE AN GOOD EVEN SCRAP WITH LIVERPOOL NICKING THE POINTS. UNBIASED CITY FAN.
  • whocaresanyway  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
    Evra is a very insecure man, just look at his face, it has fear written all over it. He opened this can of worms, there is no turning back now for him, he's brought this on, now deal with it.
  • S.M  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
    look guys Suarez served his punishment for things he said. One cannot root out racism by punishment alone, it depends on people's education, background & experience. In my mind if FA & Premier league take racism seriously they would have made sure John Terry's case was heard as soon as possible. They just pay lip service to these things, media also has a vested interest in hyping these issues as well. Their portrayal or reporting is not totally clear of racism. Football fans always abuse somebody or some group, it is a society problem not foot club alone. So I hope media don't whip this up into a frenzy.
  • george  •  3 months ago
    why are you trying to stir things up the matter should be left to settle lets see how both players react on saturday and it isn't just united supporters who have respect for their rivals
  • Mike  •  Petah Tikva, Israel  •  3 months ago
    On Saturday, at Old Trafford, anyone who twists his face into hatred and booes Suarez, anyone who sings vile songs about the drunken Liverpool goons at Hillsborough, anyone who does anything other than cheer on the efforts of his lovelies in what is, let's face it, merely a GAME - deserves to be banned from all football grounds for life AND ALSO deserves to be conscripted into the army and forced to learn what discipline, respect, true courage and true morality really mean.
  • onegudleg  •  Birkenhead, England  •  3 months ago
    quite telling that this report contains nothing about the man utd supporter arrested for racial abuse towards a stoke city player,it just highlights his very obvious real (anti lfc) agenda and as other people have pointed out this will never die down while so called sports journalists such as white(can i call him that?)keep looking for a sensational headline regardless of the consequences or the truth of the matter.

About Jim White

An award-winning columnist with the Daily Telegraph for which he has covered all the world’s major sporting events – Jim is well known and highly regarded in all parts of the media. A long-serving contributor to Radios 4 and 5, he consistently appears on BBC television and Sky for which he has recently written, and presented, documentaries on Jose Mourinho and Sven-Goran Eriksson. He is the author of the best-selling You"ll Win Nothing With Kids, the memoir of his time as a wholly unsuccessful junior football coach.

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