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Robert, I normally enjoy reading your posts (except the occasional ABU rhetoric) but, seri...

Robert, I normally enjoy reading your posts (except the occasional ABU rhetoric) but, seriously, WTF?
Are you really comparing accidents and disease to the willful massacre of thousands of innocent people?

Before you get on your high horse re. Iraq and Afghanistan, remember that Afghanistan was controlled by the Taliban. Do you really think the people there are unhappy with the end of that regime? I'm sure the women are, for a start.
As for Iraq, Saddam's fear of Iran was to blame for his refusal to prove he had no WMDs. That's from the man himself, as I met te FBI handler that spent considerable time with him.
What about the atrocities carried out upon his own people? What about the Kurds?

I will agree that the post 9/11 reaction was extremely heavy handed, but isn't that human nature? What exactly is the "right" response? THAT is why the media will prattle on about it, because it really was unprecedented.

I don't want to keep harping on about this, but you're completely failing to separ...

I don't want to keep harping on about this, but you're completely failing to separate disease/accident/natural disaster from a deliberate act of terrorism.

Why should I separate them? Robert

Why should I separate them?



Robert

Changing your tune a bit Robert? Now you are not belittleing it but just feel that other ...

Changing your tune a bit Robert?

Now you are not belittleing it but just feel that other incidents are more worthy of our sympathy due to more dying!

Why not just come out and say you were wrong instead of shifting goal posts. If i remember, the British public dug deep, VERY DEEP into their pockets to raise money for the Tsunami victims. No need for the Americans as they have plenty of money and resources but i can assure you, every Boxing Day just as 9/11, the public remember those killed accross Asia.................Even if the media don't give as much coverage (or do they?, i have personal seen a fair few Tsunami related doc's).

But the OTT Yank media is not the issue, It is respect for the suffering of the victims and their loved ones who died on a massive scale. I have never, NEVER understood targeting innocent people whatever your cause. I don't care if it's 9/11, 7/7 or a single bomber on a bus with Joe Public.

When the USS Cole was targeted, I could understand how in a war, the warship could be thought of as a legitimate target.................But not ordinary people going about their day with no intention of hurting anyone!

The people of Britain, France, Spain (ETA), Iran, Isreal, Afghanistan (the list would take all day), are NOT, i repeat NOT, legitimate targets simply because some elected or un-elected politicians have pi55ed off some other country.

I won't bother searching but i doubt i could find any posts from you reference Man U or Liverpool fans "getting things into perspective" about how many died in their tragedy's!.................Surely if this is your opinion, then clearly you must feel like this?

Maybe you just thought it would be anti government or controversial to bother posting that people should get over it?.....................Well congratulations Robert...............You weren't without your supporters!

PS. I'm not sure but i think Chelsea is your team? Either way, i hope if anything awfull happens to the players or supporters of your team, you come straight on here and tell the world that it barely registers on the Tragedy-ometer


ROY

I agree, and said earlier, that 9/11 was a game changer and a "where were you when&qu...

I agree, and said earlier, that 9/11 was a game changer and a "where were you when" moment. I could bore you with a great deal of detail about what I did and thought that afternoon. 7/7 was rather different.

A hundred times as many people died in the Asian tsunami. My point is that that event is way more significant in the tragedy stakes but has been pretty much forgotten while 9/11 goes on and on. If you want to commemorate tragedies shouldn't you go for the tsunami first?


Robert