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  • 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

    by A Yahoo! User . Oct 31, 2009 21:41 . Permalink

    Arsenal put the Yids in their place....

    It could have been MORE if not for our wastefulness in front of goal.

    Count yourselves LUCKY.

    Spud will ALWAYS be in our shadows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    C'mon ARSENAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

      by A Yahoo! User . Nov 1, 2009 21:07 . Permalink

      sorry but corluka isnt good enough. yes he may have been ok yesterday but i think if u loo...

      sorry but corluka isnt good enough.
      yes he may have been ok yesterday but i think if u look at all of this season he has made countless errors.
      he quakes in his boots when any one with a bit of pace or skill runs at him. he gets caught out of position so often (look at pompey goal, he didnt even know prince was behind him).

      he never offers anything going foward, look at the best full bks in football. they have pace, dribbling ability & can cross a ball.
      he cant do any of the 3.

      its alright to simplify football like u have done & say he didnt make any mistakes yesterday.
      if thats your reasoning then we might as well kept gunter, he didnt make any noticable errors.
      but we sold him, why?- coz harry knew he didnt offer enough going foward & he didnt make any great tackles.
      he was a solid RB who cant attack.
      that would have been good 10yrs ago, but now u need a pacy full bk who can support your winger.

      u have to use your brain more & think of less obvious things like he didnt make an error yesterday.
      for example- lennon- he has it all to do on his own down the right & when u think how well he does imagine how much better he would do with a supporting RB who can overlap & make good runs to open up gaps for him.
      but instead lennon has to beat 2 men each time just to get a pass or cross in.

      im not saying corlukas rubbish but he is a mid table team player.
      this is clear by the fact when we play a top team he is easily exposed (rooney,drogba made him look awful)

      look at our right side yesterday- bentley & corluka- jesus- this must be the slowest wing attack ever!

      arsenal could have put senderson at RB & he would have been quicker then both of them.

    • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

      FABONGRASSS by FABONGRASSS . Nov 1, 2009 18:50 . Permalink

      I reckon Harry should have played Krancjar and Pavlechenko from the off myself. I agree ...

      I reckon Harry should have played Krancjar and Pavlechenko from the off myself.

      I agree with Harry in that you guys were playing well up until we scored and you could well of had a goal before us and no doubt it would have been a different game then if you had.

      The sluggish way your guys took the centre kick after the first goal was laughable though chaps and chapesses and when Fab did what he did it was game over Psychologically for you lot.

      Roll on the next NL Derby!

    • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

      Lee by Lee . Nov 1, 2009 04:32 . Permalink

      I'm almost vomiting as I say this but fair play, better team won. I was optimistic aft...

      I'm almost vomiting as I say this but fair play, better team won. I was optimistic after the first 42 minutes, dissapointed after conceeding, but bloody seething only seconds later. Thats where Arsenal killed us off, the second, and it was appauling by us. After the first goal we showed no fight. Fabergrass said it right, we rolled over belly up, and thats the most infuriating thing of all.

      Still, the most important thing now is that the team look forward, try and see today as just a game lost, doesn't matter to whom (not that we see it that way of course). We really need a good kick start as we have been very shaky for the last 6 games or so. The worst thing that can happen is if the players let their heads drop. And I think we need a big name in the January transfer market. And i mean a big name. Real quality. Left or centre mid. If Modric is going to be playing on the left when fit, then go for a centre - because for me Jenas doesn't cut it. The amount of times he was sloppy today just sums him up. Some people on here go on about Corluka or BAE, saying we need better full backs, but I'm sorry that is not where we are most lacking. They are good full backs and even did okay today despite the scoreline. I don't remember them being at fault for any of the goals - although the second was a group effort :(
      If Harry is playing Keane on the left then for me, we have an issue. He just bought cover for the left, but didn't play him today, instead putting a forward in that position. And this effected Keane's game. He's getting a lot of stick at the moment but to be fair he's doing a job asked of him, and it isn't showing him in the best light. I've also been a long time defencer of Pav, and whilst he hasn't had much of a chance recently, today from what I saw we should let him go. No fight. No fire. No point.

      So pleanty to grumble about, but our season isn't over yet. We need to lift our heads and finish the year strong.

      Again, fair paly to Arsenal. I'd have been bragging like hell had we won, so have to expect it back. You lot are looking really strong at the moment. And it makes me sick.... ;)

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      • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

        by A Yahoo! User . Nov 1, 2009 04:41 . Permalink

        this defeat was so obviously coming. we arent good enough for top 4 by a long way & we wil...

        this defeat was so obviously coming.
        we arent good enough for top 4 by a long way & we will do really well to get that 6th spot with this team.
        im suprised from our starting 11 people thought we even had a sniff of getting a draw.
        we could easily be in the bottom half in a few wks so im just hoping we regroup, make 3 or 4 changes in january & secure 6th spot.
        then build from there.

        out- corluka, jenas or hudd, pav
        in- muntari,parker, a good right bk who isnt as slow as a camel.

        this wasnt just 1 off bad performance like some of u wil say.
        we lack the quality & squad depth to even challenge for 4th.

      • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

        Kentish Maid by Kentish Maid . Nov 1, 2009 05:18 . Permalink

        Agree with all you say Lee, and yes galling as it is to say it the best team won by a coun...

        Agree with all you say Lee, and yes galling as it is to say it the best team won by a country mile. For some reason though I didn't think the game had its usual North London derby fire, especially compared to last season's cracking 4-4 draw.

        I'm not a fan of Andy Gray by any stretch of the imagination but he was spot on when he said that both King and Bassong were at fault for the first 2 goals - specifically that they should never have gone to ground when making their tackles. To have conceded 2 goals within a couple of minutes was just appalling (and much as it grates to admit it, I reckon Fabregas's effort should be a contender for goal of the month considering he ran with the ball from the halfway line). Up until then our defence was holding up well, though I have to say that I don't think that Ledley is up to the task anymore - he made some terrible mistakes and his passing was poor at times. That said, the passing in general was poor from more than a few of our players.

        Gomes had a blinding game and but for him the scoreline would have been more than 3-0. And we really should have tested Almunia more when we had the chance to see if he was back to full fitness as I thought he looked quite shaky at times.

        Time to draw a line and move on - Defoe has served his 3-match ban so will be back for next week's game, and hopefully Lennon will be fit again too. They may only be little guys but they add that pace we were clearly missing today. With Modric also missing it was patently obvious that without them we were never going to play the attacking football we started the season with. But 3 men don't make a whole team and collectively there's a lot to be done if we're to maintain a push for CL or even UEFA Cup qualification.

    • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

      richard j by richard j . Oct 31, 2009 22:20 . Permalink

      WTF the first and second goals were school boy stuff.I dint expect to win but that was bul...

      WTF the first and second goals were school boy stuff.I dint expect to win but that was bullshit.
      Sorry Pav goodbye and see ya later Bale.
      Were not good enough for a top 4 place at the moment
      I thought Gomes played a blinder.
      COYS (next season)

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      • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

        FABONGRASSS by FABONGRASSS . Oct 31, 2009 22:37 . Permalink

        With all respect.... IF the first and second were "schoolboy stuff" then the &...

        With all respect....

        IF the first and second were "schoolboy stuff" then the "school boys were all wearing white today.

        Harry f*cked the team selection i reckon.

        Sheer class from the chaps in red and thats a fact.

        Results go against you guys today and you could well find yourself in 8th position.

        Arsenal didnt even play particularly well today.

        Good game Yids. Good game.

        Onwards and upwards.

    • Re: 3-0......The gulf in CLASS was OBVIOUS

      by A Yahoo! User . Nov 2, 2009 04:33 . Permalink

      old fan if u read my posts u will see i didnt start laying in to corluka until lee started...

      old fan if u read my posts u will see i didnt start laying in to corluka until lee started defending him.
      so i wanted to give lee my opinion on him.
      we just have a difference of opinions on corluka.

      in my original posts & infact before the arsenal match,i was saying we arent good enough & that we have many weaknesses that arsenal will expose.

      drogba out paced & out muscled him, i dont think corluka was unlucky at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCuwlv0HvC4
      in fact if im brutally honest he lost ashley cole for the opener & was no where for ballacks. so thats 3 in 1 match+pompey thats 4 off the top of my head.

      i dont see how u can say he has made less mistakes then glen johnson. name me 5 liverpool mistakes he has made?

      your example against young isnt great considering zokora was a cxentre mid playing out of position as RB, he would struggle as RB against most wingers.

      i noticed u mented ekotto too, he still makes a lot of casual errors & doesnt close down the attacker quick enough but he has improved a lot & is still young so id still give him time.

      glad u agree jenas isnt up to it. keep hudd as squad player & buy new CM in jan.

      pav got 2 go. so new striker in jan too.

      if gio fit id give him ago on either right or left as bentley not good enough & keane isnt a left winger.

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