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I've just looked at the Ar5e's squad.
There's not one English name in it.
I know the ruling is 3 years before the age of 21 at English or Welsh FA ..blah de blah de blah, but how the heck is this supposed to help ENGLISH youngsters to progress?????????????????? It helps the gifted ones from what ever country in stead.
Those wise old men in football admin at it again.
I thought the Early Dorrs article about the issue was good.
The FA's have a problem with employment law to contend with as well as trying to introduce a 'more sensible' approach to home grown players.
The problem with the new rules at the moment, is there's nothing stopping any club buying up 'prospect' players from all over the world and bringing them through their youth squads into the first team pool. But at least it's a start. Maybe, once one or two of the bigger clubs realise that its cheaper to 'grow' their own players and part sponsor lower division teams to 'blood' their prospects, the better it will be, both for the stability of the clubs, and for the prospects of 'British' football.
Also, if Hoddle's 'finishing' school takes off as it should, then maybe similar models dotted around could be an answer. Providing a centralised 'skills' school - much as the FA were trying (but never quite achieved) with their schools of excellence - is a good way of then providing a similar centralised facility for those clubs who don't have the resources to fund their own enterprises.
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Hi John, didn't Gazza say something similar recently, after he'd come out from another rehab.
God I hope it gets going and gives him some reason to help stay off the booze. If he keeps going the way he is he'll end up like George Best or Alex Higgins. I couldn't believe the way the Hurricane looked just before he died. Absolutely shocked!!!!
WHO is this new dickhead called The Mister??????????
Dear oh dear HRJ.
'the fans dont want to know anything remotely English with the odd exception of Walcott and Wilshere.."
You mean apart from two of the very brightest prospects England has to offer i take it?
Add Gibbs and that makes three of the very brightest prospects England has to offer in my eyes.
England never won bugger all even when the leagues were FULL of English players.
A laughable ruling which does nothing but LOWER th equality of the Prem AND the prospects of the English national side.
I'm no connoisseur, as they say, but I know what I like. Arsenal may play these very intricate little passing patterns, all very technical, why use one pass when 25 will do, eh? If a bottle of wine taste nice, it's good wine. If it's a nice picture, it's good art! If Cordon Bleu food tastes foul, it's bad grub! And if it's end-to-end and full of incident, it's good, exciting football. I have watched such games in zis country for all my long-assed life. I have seen many great and exciting footballers and I can't be wrong, because the grounds were full in those days too. Go to the continent and find where they get regular five-figure gates in their second tier, let alone their third! Wenger has done all this for us? No. It's been going on forever. Yes he's been a fair manager for Arsenal in the past, and they were such a dull, boring side that they needed someone like him. But there's no denying, there's an underlying anti-Englishness about the man and if it wasn't for the money he's making here I've no doubt he'd be Frog-side in a flash. You and other Arsenal fans may enjoy your fine wines and your Monets and your Bistros and your boring game, but it doesn't float my P&O ferry. No, give me the traditional sweeping exhilirating football of yer Yids any time! It has been open season on Redknapp for a few days, so I thought I'd offer a few of my observations on the gooner's boss. He plays youngsters,and then uses their age as an excuse when they lose, he has players who put the boot in when they've been beaten, and then blames English football for doing this. He NEVER sees or acknowledges any transgressions by his players and rarely gives the opposition any credit. And this is pretty mild stuff, I think. He is a vain, arrogant and stubborn man.
What we have had in recent seasons when we have proven we CAN compete 'OF' is an injury list to make the mind boggle.
And NO before you start the Spurs medical room has been nowhere near as full as consistently as the Arsenal one in recent years.
Frustrated opposition players finding they have to 'kick out' at the far superior Arsenal folk in a rather pathetic bid to compete.
Dont believe me?
Then why is it Alex Ferguson has commented along the very same lines on both the above points ( Injury blighted seasons and lesser teams kicking superior players).
Nothing at all wrong with my former post 'OF'.
Just a bitter pill to swallow i guess.
Fab - there are times when you have posted interesting and thoughtful posts on our board - this was not one of them. It is quite possible that this is the biggest load of old tot I have ever seen emanate from your sticky keyboard!
Yes you lot play nice pretty possession football while you feel like you are in command - but once you are on shaky ground you do start to throw your handbags like a bunch of petulant little tarts! And the fact remains that while you play nice pretty football, you haven't won anything in years - or for that matter improved at all in years (the proof being in the pudding). Why - because you do not have the je ne sais pas (if you will - thought you might appreciate a little Gallic touch) required to become a winner instead of a perpetual bridesmaid (excuse the mixed metaphor). i.e. you do not have that explosive "what just happened" that winning teams possess - that teams that make progress and improve possess.
And as far as Wenger goes - he's French - 'nuff said!
Ah tiss Sunday morning and i am pleased to have read your thoughts on Monsieur Wenger whilst i supp at my first coffee of the day.
I will tackle your first, with all due respect,un-educated remark 'why use one pass when 25 will do'.
Its all about possesion John, after all if the opposition cant get the ball, well......their fucked. Arsenal can break arguably quicker than any other team and have been able to do so for well over a decade now, a mere couple of passes and BANG!
Now that teams are so afraid of playing us many choose to pile the vast majority of their team in front of their box for the entire game, shivering with fright and soiling their undies. This is when the mighty men of Arsenal pass the ball around awaiting that golden opportunity to strike like a cobra with the cunning of a mensa registered fox.
To the un-trained eye it may seem like passing to nowhere John but it is the magicians hand at work awaiting the master stroke. One pass simply would not do at all.
Spurs manager Gerry Francis once famously commented after playing Arsenal (I use that term very loosely indeed in this case) that "We would have been OK ......if only we could have got the ball!"
True John there have indeed been many great and exciting footballers over the years with skills that would make your eyes wobble with excitement. I do believe Spurs even had such a player once by the name of Glenn Hoddle famously learning his trade and fine tuning his skills under Wenger. A player in whose regard their is no better than the Gallic wizard Wenger.
Another player of note that wore the Spurs shirt was Jimmy Greaves and any real English football fan will hold Jimmy close to their hearts no matter what club they support surely?
Thing is Old Jimmy was from a different time John, sure the stadiums were packed and sure it was magnificent football in those days but it was of a kind long dead. A kind where the substitutes smoked cigarettes and everyone got pissed every night.
It is a surprise these guys could actually run the length of the pitch when you hink about it!
Keep up with the boy wonder that is Walcott Jimmy?
Out run Vermalean Jimmy??
Get outa here!!!
Beat Almunia Jimmy????
Well.......OK i'll give you that one Jim.
Whilst Wenger was introducing the modern game to England Spurs were hiring the very manager whose tenure at Arsenal was memorably noted for 'boring' football John.
Lest not ye forget that eh?
Monsieur Wenger will never acknowledge an Arsenal players 'transgressions' John tiss true and i for one am glad of that.
Who wants a manager who is willing to knock his own players after all???
As for the constant 'Anti-English' references aimed by you at the great man what is there to say? He has stated that he would like nothing more than to see England win the World cup over and over and in years to come the fruitions of the Arsenal youth set up will start to show the many young English players now coming through at the most modern and forward thinking club of our time.
Lastly i will suggest that your attitude towards the great man is born from the politics of envy John and i suggest you take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror, take a deep breath and then go buy yourself an Arsenal shirt with 'Wenger 1' on the back and step forward into a bright new dawn.
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