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  • Wot? AVB?

    Jlock by Jlock . Jul 3, 2012 14:47 . Permalink

    I'm not sure.
    But, hey, I wasn't sure about 'arry either. So, I'll reserve judgement on him till after a couple of seasons.
    Hope he does well.

    • Re: Wot? AVB?

      longtimespur by longtimespur . Jul 4, 2012 09:29 . Permalink

      How do you work that out Fab? If an employee of mine was to go courting several other job...

      How do you work that out Fab?
      If an employee of mine was to go courting several other jobs whilst still uunder contract to me I would think that very disloyal and therefore dis-respectful!
      As for another year, he had that left on his existing contract. Apparently he was offered a new contract before the England position was open and refused it. Then when the job w ent to Roy Hodgson he goes blabbing to the press about it's wrong to only have one year left on a manager's contract. You wouldn't do that with a player blah de bloody blah. How is that respectful, especially when the chairman had just lost his mother.

    • Re: Wot? AVB?

      longtimespur by longtimespur . Jul 4, 2012 14:10 . Permalink

      Seems so John, things have changed. Press write virtually what they want to now.

      Seems so John, things have changed. Press write virtually what they want to now.

    • Re: Wot? AVB?

      Jlock by Jlock . Jul 4, 2012 11:22 . Permalink

      Fab, It's difficult to judge a 'good manager' isn't it? But that's the...

      Fab,
      It's difficult to judge a 'good manager' isn't it? But that's the luck of the game (and life in general) isn't it? Being in the right place at the right time.
      When 'arry was asked years back re the England job, he basically said that there are loads of 'English' lower Division managers that he thought could do a good job even at National level and knew about football. But, he knew as well as we all do, that they'll never get a chance.
      AVB then has two seasons + in mainstream management, and is lauded as the next messiah. I think I'd prefer a manager who had been through a few ups and downs and learned how to treat/handle both success and failure (I suppose you could say that is what AVB's experience is on the nail!)

      Irrespective of what was thought about 'arry at the end, AVB has
      a thankless task ahead IMHO. I guess that 'most' will now expect 4th at least - so even if he does manage that, it won't be seen as the achievement that it is nowadays (with your bunch, the Chavs, Pool, Utd, Citeh and maybe with Toon and/or another dark horse all potentially in the running).

      Wonder if AVB has ever been asked (or been linked with) the Portugal job ;-)?

    • Re: Wot? AVB?

      longtimespur by longtimespur . Jul 4, 2012 09:57 . Permalink

      John, good morning. As far as I remeber the papers were linking him with the Chelsea job, ...

      John, good morning. As far as I remeber the papers were linking him with the Chelsea job, Liverpool and Monaco as well. "No smoke without fire"
      When asked about the England job instead of just saying something like "It's the pinnacle of any "English" manager's career" he should have said something along the lines of "Well I have a really good job here at the moment with tremendous players and fans so I am pleased to be managing Spurs" But, being him who only thinks of himself, drops some obvious asides and let's all and sundry know he wants it.
      We are discussing HR so as for Moyes, well sorry but I think that would have been a retrograde step anyway, also Hodgson is nothing to do with it either, so to me that's irrelevant.
      Obviously I am not privy to such matters as "Terms of any contract" but suffice it to say it was reported in the majority of the press and no I don't believe all I read in there either!! But as it's said "No smoke without fire"

    • Re: Wot? AVB?

      Jlock by Jlock . Jul 4, 2012 14:29 . Permalink

      LTS, I don't think they write much - the AVB gets 3 year contract is just the 'arr...

      LTS,
      I don't think they write much - the AVB gets 3 year contract is just the 'arry story regurgitated, even including the £50m war chest - so it looks like cut and paste with a quick find and replace.
      At least the AVB story has some substance behind it though.

      What is now losing me is who is really buying the players, especially given the Gylfi bit. If 'arry was promised £50m, did he start things going back in March (somehow I really doubt that)? And Vertonghen - was that 'arry? Or did they talk to AVB prior to him signing and start the negotiations to buy the players he wanted (that would seem a bit risky should AVB have then not signed) - OR is it all controlled by Levy anyway?
      I suppose another option is that whoever is left of the coaching team had input (is that just Tim Sherwood now, or are Sir Les and Clive Allen still there?).


      Well, at least things are moving and are IMO looking 'positive' (I would treat inaction at this point as 'negative').

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