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Just to stick my oar in!!
When Mancini took over at Citeh, people moaned they were defensive and how slow the build up etc. Look at them now.
I know our defence is weak but we are without Kaboul, Bae, Parker, 3 main players, so I will hold judgement on AVB on that.
The players are new to him, they are new to each other too. Soo many gone and 5 new ones arriving in the summer.
He has a different way of playing and I don't think our fitness levels are up to speed to play it yet. So maybe that's why the slow build up play from us most of the time.
Yes some iffy substitutions ( bringing on a defensive mf when we are 1 goal up ) and only ever one striker but so many injuries haven't helped.
I think the only reason Hudd is playing is because of these injuries and (AVB man-management) AVB says to the press how great he has been. Giving him a gee-up.
I think it will take some time and lots of patience from the fans to see any fruition from AVB's tactics and playing style.
But after all is said and done this is supposed to be "A long term project" whether we like it or not!!
There's the dilemma with Daffy. When Daffy scores, it's a case of - '.... told...
There's the dilemma with Daffy. When Daffy scores, it's a case of - '.... told you Daffy could play alone up front....'.
Then when he doesn't score it becomes '....poor old Daffy, isolated up front..,how do you expect him to score?..'. Even though the method of play may have been changed to suit Daffy (ie Bale, Lemmon getting closer to him).
I thought the issue has been that AVB keeps playing Daffy alone up front? That has been the pattern virtually all season?
In my opinion and as stated many times before, in Daffy's case (and players of his ilk), when they score they look good. When they don't, they lend little (pun intended) to the team. Personally, I prefer players who provide a bit more.
I'm amazed the same discussion is still in full flow, It seems many of us are making ...
I'm amazed the same discussion is still in full flow,
It seems many of us are making the same or very similar points to those made 2-4-8 weeks ago, whats changed? what has AVB been able to change? have we had numerous more signings? people returning from injury?
AVB is still only 5-6 months into a new job and therefore cannot be written off, we have lost key players Luka, VDV, King and depth in players like Pienaar, Corluka, Niko. We have key players injured in Dembele, Kaboul, BAE, Parker. Ade has been unfit most of the season after being colossal all last season and we have had an unsettled CM pairing due to injury.
Yes other teams have experienced change and have had injury, but not to such key players in such key positions.
NONE of us know who's responsible for what or what AVB has been told is expected, who's to blame for what in terms of squad strength is anyones guess! And it is only that..... a GUESS!
We haven't played particularly beautiful football, but we had games under HR when we were equally dire, as we did under Ramos, Jol ad infinitum.
Do not write AVB off purely because you don't like his face!
Remmah makes so many good strong points in this response, Having been absent for some day...
Remmah makes so many good strong points in this response,
Having been absent for some days (did ya miss me?) due to some rather more pressing matters, I have very similar opinions to Remmah on this issue.
IT IS TOO EARLY TO JUDGE THIS MAN!
He has not been given enough time/resource or support!
yes it is a joke how isolated defoe is in some games. the wigan game was the funniest. for...
yes it is a joke how isolated defoe is in some games.
the wigan game was the funniest.
for most of the match little defoe was on his own up against 3 big CBs!
Hi Sfer - No my grandsons team lost 5-4 to a dodgy penalty 2 mins from time ( bloody refs ...
Hi Sfer - No my grandsons team lost 5-4 to a dodgy penalty 2 mins from time ( bloody refs lol )
I honestly believe the lack of quality in MF is the reason we look so bad, If you cant keep and pass the ball then you are always going to be under pressure, if you keep giving the ball away. It's no coincidence that we won 4 and drew 1 when Dembele was playing, because he is the only one we have who can do anything, by shielding the ball and making surges forward which gives Bale and Lennon time to support. We cant blame AVB for the lack of quality as he had no influence on the transfer dealings in and out in the summer, which I think were already going to happen before he joined. The only one what was last minute that he may of had an imput, was Dempsey, who was obviously a fall back buy when it became clear we wer'nt going to get Damaio. The one player Avb asked for it seems, was Moutino, who we agreed a club record fee for with Porto, but couldnt agree personal terms, so thats down to Levy not going the whole ten yards. We started with Daffy because we had no choice with Ade out injured, and thankfully he hit the ground running, but thats why we played one up front because there was no other option. Now Ade's fit, we have an option, and just like Harry, Avb tried him as the lone striker, so its exactly the same as last season, except as I keep sprouting on about, the quality behind the striker. I take your point about vdv, he was only good for half a game, then starts dropping deeper and deeper, but he certainly is a quality player IMO. That was one of Harry's biggest fault's, not taking him off after 50-60 minutes, and putting Daffy on and dropping Ade in behind. Avb likes playing a high back line, which in theory should keep our player's in touching distance of each other, and pressing the opposition in their half, so it can be seen as an offensive formation. Anyway, you may well be right all along and Im bleating on like an idiot, but the picture's bigger than having just any eleven on the pitch and expecting the flowing football we all love at WHL.
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