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On 21 March 2007 at 09.57 Mr. de la Rosa wrote to Coughlan in the following terms:
“Hi Mike, do you know the Red Car’s Weight Distribution? It would be important for us to know so that we could try it in the simulator. Thanks in advance, Pedro.
p.s. I will be in the simulator tomorrow.”
3.6 In his evidence given to the WMSC, Mr. de la Rosa confirmed that Coughlan replied by text message with precise details of Ferrari’s weight distribution.
3.7 On 25 March 2007 at 01.43 Mr. de la Rosa sent an e-mail to Fernando Alonso
which sets out Ferrari’s weight distribution to two decimal places on each of
Ferrari’s two cars as set up for the Australian Grand Prix.
3.8 Mr. Alonso replied to this e-mail on 25 March 2007 at 12.31 (they were in different time zones). His e-mail includes a section headed “Ferrari” in which he says “its weight distribution surprises me; I don’t know either if it’s 100% reliable, but at least it draws attention”. The e-mail continues with a discussion of how McLaren’s weight distribution compares with Ferrari’s.
3.9 Mr. de la Rosa replied on 25 March 2007 13.02 stating the following:
“All the information from Ferrari is very reliable. It comes from Nigel Stepney, their former chief mechanic – I don’t know what post he holds now. He’s the same person who told us in Australia that Kimi was stopping in lap 18. He’s very friendly with Mike Coughlan, our Chief Designer, and he told him that.”
Nice these MCL people aren't they?
Question is how come over 50yrs of the modern F1 no one was ever really fined or expeled for spying. FIA even admitted that it was normal for F1 teams look out for rival data for comparison. But is the McLaren car the same in parts as the Ferrari car or not? What the emails prove is that De La Rosa and Alonso had illegal contact with a Ferrari employee. They should be banned for the illegal transaction of emails. FIA cant prove that any data from Ferrari was used, all was assumptions made by FIA only. Any court system would just dismissed it as pure speculation on part of FIA. Is Ferrari really that desperate to win by all means..i guess they are... I also suggest Ferrari buy a "SAFE" that secure metal thing where all Top Secret documents can be kept...and hire only Italians....hire Alonso next year that might help also..
The interresting link posted is a good starter but is it enough to make up an objective opinion upon FIA verdict ?
Personnaly, I doubt : "too much ado about almost nothing" and Alonso only related (sorry Fernando) !
Nothing to prevail such a punishement against ... McLaren.
Don't we miss some other important additonal piece of information?
And the McLaren drivers STILL got away with all this!!
They should have been baned too - it is they who benefit most from all this............giving them a more competitive car!
No wonder Jean Todt is STILL pulling his hair out and calling for more blood!
This sucks BIG time - and the whole of F1 is in disgrace.
I think we have yet to hear the last of this...............what price Ferrari taking legal action against both Stepney and Coughlan??
It is after all Business Espionage..........and that is serious stuff.
- 1 Reply to B2a
Yes and Business espionage should be dealt with by the courts as it was when Toyota were found with information regarding Ferrari. Their man was sentenced to 9 mths prison or something like that. Ferrari would have done the same to Mclaren, but that would'nt have got rid of their nearest competition.
Indeed guys, keep blaming Ferrari, MS, FIA, Bernie... McLaren! Hell no, they are the victims.
All of you that needed prove that McLaren has CHEATED, here it is... FIA release reasons for McLaren expulsion:
Give it a good read "Scratch" and if you still think that McLaren are inocent angels, then you`re even more stupid then what i thought you were.
Just read the whole article and you`ll find out that McLaren got away with murder because they should have been striped off their driver`s points as well.
- 10 Replies to IronMaiden_RuLeZ
i wish McLaren and Merc and Ron just quit F1, then Ferrari can win all the titles and while at it make sure 22 cars on the grid are all Ferraris to. yup rename F1 ''F1 Ferrari'', then at every race no matter what a ferrari will win...
after reading the transcript it is clear McLaren did cheat, but you must admit a ferrari employee started this whole farce by passing on this information to McLaren, therefore surely they are just as guilty for bring the sport in to disrepute & should there for recieve some sort of punnishment?.
why not make all 4 start from the back of the grid for the rest of the season & lets see how good they really are
Iv'e carefully read the whole thing.
The only conclusion is that pdlr & Alonso knew of the documents, says nothing of the whole team knowing.
Mclaren should save face now and sack Alonso and pdlr.
If they don't, then that tells a story.
I still hope Mclaren wipe the floor of ferrari.