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This subject has raised it head again, and for me its a great idea for the development of players, playing competitive football at 16-20 instead of reserve fixtures, If any one has been to a resevere match, they know how bad they can be.
Although it would be nice if it happened, there would be a lot to sort out. How would they fit into the league system, how far if they where promoted would they be able to climb? Would players be able to move to the first team at will?
Personally I would like to see them in the conference and limited to the second divison. This is the area of the game that needs money injected into it. So imagine say Accrington Stanley V Liverpool Res, this would be a big game and would generate a big crowd and therefore more cash to these smaller clubs that work on a tight rope.
Of course some of the clubs will have the league place threatned and some kind of compensation system would have to be set up. Ideally maybe the conference brought into the football league.
But the main benift would be to the youngsters of the top clubs giving them experience as a team and give them the skill, chracter to be able to step up when needed. At present the team is broke up and sent out on loan, what good does that do!
this type ov thing happens in spain,portugal and many eastern european countries allready aces. tho the reserves do compete the lower they leages they cannot be relegated or promoted. also,these players play on the same day as the first team,very much as our own system here,thus they dont come thru for the first because the big boys are not watching,only lower league opponents see these players and buy them then the club have monies to attract higher calliber ov player. be nice to have the reserve fa cup live on telly now and again tho
Who would we support in a final between Liverpool and Liverpool reserves? We would be cheering every time any player gets the ball.
Rafa may have a point on this as it does happen in spain, but as far as it helps develop players I have my doubts. The Spanish national team is as bad as the English.
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I disagree that national team talent will always shine through eventually. It may be true with the Rooney and Owens of this world but the Lampards (Who Chelsea took a punt on and he developed fantastically well, even if I think he is a fat shite), Johnsons (who has developed since everton took a chance on him, and Ashton/Bent etc develop only in line with the chances they are given to play at the top level. But for how many of those are there players who could step up, with the right coaching and being suurounded by other top professionals but are never given the chance at a young age because they are shipped off to Scunthorpe (no disrespect intended), and sink into a career playing in the lower leagues where they are not pushed or tested. Taken to the extreme even Zidane wasn't rated at a young age but he developed late after being educated first in France then in Serie A. YEs we do get international footballers through but the point is inadvertently Rafa's suggestion might mean we have a wider pool of talent to choose from. I do agree though that there has to be retsrictions on foreigners. Bolton and Arsenal packing a reserve side with non english talent does us not favours at all and in the main the liverpool reserves tend to be english. It'll never happen anyway, and I agree with some of the arguments against too but I'm all for debate.
I agree with everything you said there Sean -- but every other league does it and it seems to help the development of the national team -- if it did ever come about I would like to see a rule that there had to be an english minimum of (say) 6 players out of the 11 on the pitch....
but I understand why lower league clubs would object -- and in this country we don't seem to like change --
everyone harps on about how many clubs we have and how 'if it's not broke don't fix it' -- but it is broken -- look at our national team -- and although I do rate Nugent as a prospect -- the fact that we have to call up a player who plays championship football week in week out shows that we are struggling....
The managers of teams are saying that if they want the players to get experience to loan them out to them -- but the point is that they want them to play football in lower divisions but with a certain (managers) style and method (wheter it be Benitez, Moyes or SAF) --- this will keep fans away as the result won't be as important ---
But the lower league chairman also have to have a look at themselves and realise perhaps they're to blame for the decline of the national team by placing stupid price tags on their players -- I mean £10m for a promising player with half a season in the top flight such as Curtis Davis -- I'd rather buy agger and Vidic -- combined they cost less!!! I'm not saying championship sides should sell all their good players -- i'm just saying that the reason say many managers go abroad is the ludicrious price placed on 'promising' players head if they are english --- with a chance they may not make it --- £12 million for Bale??? He's good but £12m --- even for any left back in the world is alot of money!!!
But my question is why can't they revamp the reserve league system some how (I have no ideas by the way) so that it is more competitive ??? any ideas guys??
I understand Rafa's intentions and the need to develop the players but revamping the football league to accomodate for the reserves would be nigh on impossible. Although, playing football is of course better than simply sitting on the benches, being involved in the conference and limited to the second divison surely will not develop a player more so than him being loaned out to a first division side as the competition would be much tougher.
Secondly, I dont see why LFC and the other big clubs should have to be charitable to the smaller clubs inorder to raise money for them. Thats the job of the FA for me.
Well their should be a Reserves League then young players would get a game frequently instead of either being loaned off or sat on the subs bench week in and week out without a competitive game... also scouts would get to see young talent also the reserves as we know isn't just about young players the reserves is also used for players who've come back from injury but aren't considered good enough 4 the 1st team... their could be a reserves league as well as European Reserves Cup League... could be very interesting... I'd be interested in any replies...
You're the most visited because your the most hated !
By the way do you spell check because your literacy is shocking,saying that that it's probably because you are uneducated !
Definately uneducated when it comes to football teams.
By the I see the new stadium plans are underway for Everton, being a samll club I'm sure you'll get a good deal at Wickes on an all seater shed....to quote a twat hahahahahahahahahahahahah!
Checked it,can't see a problem, unlike your latest one.
Cut & paste from your message follows... not good.....look at yourself, what you have actually written requires you to look deep down at yourself,here's your text...
how to make yourself look a boob, fool and dweeb all rolled into one on the internet, critiscise someone for something and then in the same sentence drive a pole up ya arse..............oh, the joy of listening to a RS................
As you can see you are talking from experience, you are proficient in looking a boob etc (with the bad spelling) and there also seems to be a strong emphasis on shoving things up bottoms ! Is that why you're ID is SEANLIKESMEN ?
Then again I suppose you're used to being shafted supporting such a shit football team, but you do seem to like bottoms quite a lot!
Have you considered counselling for your beliefs into crap football teams and anal insertions?
Perhaps leaving mummy or god forbid,talking to girls may help you....but with your tastes I can't see it....oh I forgot the hilarious hahahahahahahahahh that has to be obligatory inserted into every message......what a side splitter !
What a funny "man" you are, NOT !!
By the way, check your other threads bum lover.
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I notice your slanderous homophobic accusations,that only you seemed to have mentioned oddly enough, are a theme that run through other threads on this site with other innocent members.
I would look very close to home before using statements that are, to use your term, vitriolic.
There is a vinculum among good minded members on this site who, each time you generate your mindless mumblings,will lancinate your every argument.
both the reserve league and the under 18's leage are split into north and south, also both northern leagues have 10 teams in if this was increased to 15 or 20 there would be more games making it more competitive
at the moment players are sent out to gain first team experience what modern managers want is to have their players together and working with coaches they know this is unlikley under the current system
i dont want to see any changes to the current league format expect for divisions below the championship become north + south leagues to cut costs for teams and fans alike also increasing the number of local derbys - however back to the matter if clubs build links to clubs then 3 or 4 loan players can play together gaining first team experience that is all i can see happening for now
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