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Got to say I'm really ashamed of you lot if you really are reds. While having an opinion about rafa different from mine is one thing, jumping on here before the final whistle of blown just to express your simple ideas is quite another.
Anyone who thought Rafa would name his strongest team after most of those lads played 120 minutes just 3 days ago obviously shows you know little about sport, let alone football. Expecting peak performance with that little rest is just not possible.
As for those ranting on why Torres did not start, sit down and think a minute will you. He came off early on Wednesday because he was obviously knackered. I could tell that, without the benefit of sports medicine that I'm sure the club employed this week. He's a couple weeks back from hamstring problems, so you really think its a good idea to play him from the start on a cold night after just a couple days rest? If it was a cup final maybe, but against Pompy, give it a rest.
Now I'll admit the formation threw me. But for a crowd critical of Rafa for not employing attacking tactics, why do you hate the idea of a 3 man back line, and throwing bodies up front? I'm sure Rafa knowing how well Pompy has done lately it was worth the risk, and might help make up for the lack of spark in the midfield due to Gerrards abscense.
As it turned out, not a bad call. The score in fact flattered Pompy. First goal was off-side. We again dominated the play, and had a perfectly good goal disallowed.
Now if the anti reds want to rant, let me at least give you some ideas based on football, as I'll even admit we not perfect. Babel, looked lively, but puts himself in blind ally's to many times, and no need to mention the miss in front of goal. In fact reminded me of Keane on more than one occasion.
Second, yet again we've been found lacking defending set plays. This is an area we need to work on. Its the most important weapon lesser teams have, and its our biggest weakness. I don't blame the zone marking, but an obvous lack of disipline, or maybe a lack of understanding of assignments. Eitherway, it needs to be addressed.
Now feel free to blast if you like. But just remember, currently sitting top, and today was the type of performance that gives a side hope. They dug in, found character, and did what it takes to get 3 points. That is what championship sides do.
People also forget tha Rafa makes substitutions that win games more than any other manager in the Prem - and by a country mile too.
And, when people [I mean the press and TV here] say that Torres saves Rafa on a number of occasions, maybe they shoud remember tha it was Rafa who signed Torres, an he signed him toscore important goals.
Many of those who bang on about Torres 'saving' Rafa are the same people who also bang on about his bad signings. Well, you can't have it both ways.
I saw an article last week that listed ALL Rafa's signings, and up to buying Torres, his biggest [most costly] signing was Alonso for £10.25M - not bad going, especially at a time when Chelski and ManUre were buying about ten players each costing between £15M and £30M.
Most of Rafa's signings have been free transfers, and many of his buys have been moved on at a profit or at break-even.
In Rafa we trust.
Back the manager, the team, the club - AND ignore all these fakers who are on here as a wind-up, claiming to be Reds. That's what 'Ignore User' is for.
'Now I'll admit the formation threw me'
Dsteer, you're a respectful poster and deserve it in return. But how many times this season can you say the above about one of Rafa's team selections? Or his substitutions? And yet to seem to dismiss it so easily without the slightest concern about how it might undermine our season.
Fact is, more often than not he does things that simply baffle not just LFC fans, but pretty much everyone. Is there another manager in the league who would start a game with 6 defenders, 3 of them in midfield? It's nuts. Noone knows or understands what he's trying to do.
Fans like you who back the team and the manager no matter what are to be respected. But to have a go at those who struggle to blindly accept the indecipherable is just a wee bit harsh. Maybe some fans care about HOW their team actually plays the game.
I respect your stance. Hope you can do likewise to those who hold a slightly different view to yours.
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Bruce, I don't have a problem with those who've given up on Rafa. I don't agree, but its all about opinion here, and we've all got one, so fair enough.
But, I came on here an hour after the final whistle and saw posts written, some before kick off, some during the match, and some at half time, most of which laid into Rafa with glee. What happend to getting behind the team when they play?
Its one thing to see the wind up artists on here, but to see so called reds almost delight that rafa might have screwed up again, went just a little far for me. After the match, or down the pub fine, but never while the lads are still fighting the battle.
Haha that musta hurt being called a manc eh zogs!!!
Mate, with respect there is no point checking your posts as you've been saying the same f*cking thing here for months. Change the record and stop falling out with your fellow reds lad. A supporter of 50 years should know better.. that's NOT how we did things in the glory days old timer!
Now get yourself on my new thread and start with a clean slate.
Well said Aces (and other supporting posts on this thread).
Personally I put the negative viewpoints on here down to rival fans pretending to be Liverpool supporters. Coz a regular Liverpool supporter should be ecstatic that we're in a challenging position this year. Especially if they've been a fan from before the lean 90's era.
Well hes either a wind up merchant or the most clueless liverpool fan ever. Scolari has been a flop, Sammy lasted 6 months with bolton before getting the boot, and you want 29 yr old gerrard to work alongside sammy hmm personally id prefer to see him concentrate on playing for the team for the next 5yrs
psredpool...check my last post headed :to aguycalledpa: Give me or probably u self five years the same start point and the same money RB has had to work with and Im sure we and thousands of others are capable of doing a better job.
Well, well - aces the over-analyser pops up from his chemistry set. As my latest post suggests aces YOU are yet another fence sitter like STEER who doesn't know which side of the MASSIVE divide to jump to!
The FACT that the club is SO DIVIDED tells you all you need to know about WHY this manager and everything at the club bar a few players needs to be OVERHAULED.
It wasn't like this in the glory days mate... trust me on that one!
psredspool...yeah I think it likely Agger will walk he has as I said been reported as saying that RB wont play him regularly and that for him he said was an untennable situation..he will probably buy out his contract come summer. In my opinion it would be a great loss for the club hes proven his ability, give him a contract and let the boy play ! Skrtl I think is a good workman but not the class act that Agger so obviously is.
psredspool...I stand by that comment yes I really do think that thousands of others could ..with this squad...do a far better job than RB. I believe that had we been prepared in ALL our games this season to go all out for the three points we may have lost one or two more games at most but our position at top of league as a result would have been by now almost unasailable. So many people on this board seem to forget the obvious ...that u get THREE points for a win and only ONE for a draw...Spurs away a ten man Arsenal away STOKE at home and away HULL at home West Ham at home...on...and on you know the score.
You've really been a Liverpool fan for fifty years? Really???
What's your justification for picking either Sammy or Scolari over Rafa? Neither have a great record at club level or in England so I'm dying to know why you are sure that they would be better than the current manager.
Of course, you might just be a wind-up merchant Utd fan in disguise ... Isn't amazing how many are on these boards this year. Must be worried about something ...
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