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  • Fiorentina

    Mysteron by Mysteron . Nov 28, 2009 05:57 . Permalink

    We always support the club, no matter what. However, given the distain on here, for the current situation regarding the team, the manager and the owners. The match with Fiorentina offers the perfect opportunity to show our unhappiness. This is now a nothing match, stay at home and watch it on tv and save our hard earned money for more important games.

    • Re: Fiorentina

      NICOLA by NICOLA . Nov 28, 2009 16:47 . Permalink

      i hope no one takes you seriously and you will find the true fans on here would attend eve...

      i hope no one takes you seriously and you will find the true fans on here would attend every match they possibly can,its only the armchair fans and i put you in that category who are constantly posting stupid messages about sacking everyone and letting 2/3rds of the squad go for free that will agree with you
      no one is happy with the situation but anyone calling for benitez to go is crazy,he is one of the top 5 managers in world football

    • Re: Fiorentina

      Mysteron by Mysteron . Dec 1, 2009 01:13 . Permalink

      Sehlfc. Actually I don't think King Kenny is the answer and have never urged that conc...

      Sehlfc. Actually I don't think King Kenny is the answer and have never urged that concept. You seem to add 1 and 1 and get 4 every time. Please engage brain cell eh.
      In fact in another thread I said that I still believe that Rafa is the answer, but questioned has he learnt from his mistakes.

    • Re: Fiorentina

      kopalot79 by kopalot79 . Dec 1, 2009 03:18 . Permalink

      According to various reports we have lost revenue to the best part of £30,000,000 by going...

      According to various reports we have lost revenue to the best part of £30,000,000 by going out at this stage. That could of paid for rafas departure. Oh Bollox

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      • Re: Fiorentina

        dsteer_lfc_68 by dsteer_lfc_68 . Dec 1, 2009 03:32 . Permalink

        Kopalot, I’m curious where you sourced your reports from. The club is officially saying t...

        Kopalot, I’m curious where you sourced your reports from. The club is officially saying the impact is neutral as they never budgeted for any money coming from the knockout stage as how much you get is so unpredictable depending on how far you go, and also how the TV share divides up which is also dependent on how many other clubs from your home association are involved late in the competition. Therefore as I understand it, the club doesn’t put it into the figures until they know actually how much they are going to get.

        Also, even if you’re looking at the potential lost revenue its really hard to know how much we'll miss out on as we don't know how far we would have gone in the knockout phase of CL, and we don't know how far we'll go in the Europa league. On the one hand as the knockout stage in Europa starts with 32 teams we get an extra round, or 2 additional fixtures. But on the other the TV money is obviously less, and depending who we are drawn against no way of knowing if we can charge the same ticket prices for Europa fixtures versus CL fixtures.

        So while 30M maybe one estimate, I'd like to know where it comes from, and based on what assumptions. I mean is this a worse case scenario number, a best case scenario number or a guess, which to be honest with all the variables I can only assume it is.

    • Re: Fiorentina

      dsteer_lfc_68 by dsteer_lfc_68 . Dec 1, 2009 05:06 . Permalink

      Really I was looking to find the actual source. Any names or anything published. To be...

      Really I was looking to find the actual source. Any names or anything published.

      To be honest it seems a little high to me, an even if these are so called experts, it would seem they are pulling numbers out of the air. If the club itself does not budget these numbers as they are so unpredictable, its a bit hard to understand how so called experts outside the club can be so certain about how much money we've given up.

      I mean put it this way. End of the day we potentially could play actually more European games because of this, and considering I don't think we even made 30M during all of last years competition when we made it to the quarter finals, I'm not sure if your experts sums add up. But let’s take a look at them so we can see.

    • Re: Fiorentina

      dsteer_lfc_68 by dsteer_lfc_68 . Dec 1, 2009 02:55 . Permalink

      Couple questions before people rush to think this might be a good idea. First does anyone...

      Couple questions before people rush to think this might be a good idea.

      First does anyone know how much LFC has to pay out when we play at home? Just turning the lights on for a start, but also paying everyone who has to work inside or outside the ground?

      Second, does anyone know what kind of money in gate receipts we'd normally take in from a European night?

      And if you know both of these maybe you can tell us how much money we stand to lose if a boycott was held, and how much we'd make if there is no boycott. Just remember that goes to the bottom line of the club.

      While some think getting rid of Rafa is a good idea, I would hope all agree that without money our club, with or without Rafa is not going anywhere. And if you think the Yanks or even Dubai who has its thoughts elsewhere, are going to stick there hands in their wallets and make up the share lost on a Wednesday night, you need to wake up.

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      • Re: Fiorentina

        kopalot79 by kopalot79 . Dec 1, 2009 03:23 . Permalink

        "First does anyone know how much LFC has to pay out when we play at home? Just turnin...

        "First does anyone know how much LFC has to pay out when we play at home? Just turning the lights on for a start, but also paying everyone who has to work inside or outside the ground?

        Second, does anyone know what kind of money in gate receipts we'd normally take in from a European night?"


        Youre just such an "accountant " Steer. Jeeeez .

        Anyway, whatever the figures are matey, we've lost out and will continue losing out big time.

        Have you ever heard of the phrase "money for old rope" "Good money after bad"

        yep, if we keep Rafa, then all phrases such as the above apply. We need to cut our losses 'n fast

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