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Haven't got a clue, nor remedy for being up at this ungodly hour of 3am..
Anyhow, I don't suppose it will be long before making it's way, unless it has done and I'm just being redundant (forgive for lack of sleep) regarding the suggestion of Kevin Gameiro of PSG agreeing to terms for a loan move to LFC away from France..
It was originally stipulated that he'd be first choice after Sturridge if he did not get wrapped up, but now that Ince is at a complete impass, which irks the living sh*t out of me, over a mere 2M, Gameiro takes priority, "supposedly"..
The story I've just read on this side of the hot tub, is that again he's agreed to personal terms and OK'd a move away on loan, and the final decision is on PSG.. For anyone not familiar, Gameiro is a fantastic, pacey striker, and the reason he's possibly leaving is because PSG are basically the new Madrid/City, where he can barely get a game in over Ibrahimovic and their other embarrasing wealth of rich additions over the summer, and now Lucas Moura..
For those that don't fancy Borini, and may never give him a chance, despite having not played in the Prem, KG is far more experienced while still young, IF it's the truth and IF it is done/close..
Here's a good clip, and yes every clip can make anyone look good, but just focus on the blistering speed, movement, beating high lines and finishes..
Hoping for good news in the am, if I ever do crash as my eyeballs are burning..
Don't worry about the Tom Ince, it is a deal that will definitely happen before the end of the window. As soon as our 1st bid was rejected, it was always going to drag out. LFC have first refusal, we bid £4m, which is the equivalent of £7m from anyone else. If someone else trumps our bid then we get another opportunity to bid.
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Think by this point of the window, we're both (all I mean) going to hear the same pieces of news, just a matter of who hears or sees what first and vice versa..Regards to Ince, I still believe it will happen as well
The one thing that was said is that Blackpool actually had a 8-9M tag on him at one point, regardless of our 4M bid, which while he may end up great and a star, is a bit much now, and even they know that. The other interesting symantic to his deal, was Blackpool actually did use a decent poker face, credit to them, keeping him before they played the FA Cup, since he's now cup tied, it's dropped his value. He had (per the article one of us posted) wanted to arrive at LFC before that. But, he handled it professionally..
On Gameiro, really love it, and while loans haven't always worked out for us, you can't teach his pace and finishing.
Regards to Sahin, yep same here.. Having seen him that year winning Bundesliga player of the year, I thought he was brilliant, and alot of those players adapt seamlessly, esp to La Liga. Who knows.. His best position was holding mid, but since even Lucas is struggling a bit there at the moment, he's the last one I'd want as any type of ball winner in a big match..
The Coates going out on loan story did continue, even was mentioned during the Fa Cup commentary here, so we could still see 2-3 ins, and 2 outs.. Tick Tock..
I've heard the Gameiro rumours and certainly welcome another addition to the squad, cossing fingers etc. that it turns out to be positive. If it happens that is.
Ince? I'd heard a similar thing with regard to a haggle over a millon or two here and there. Yesterday however I'd heard that Blackpool were ready to drop their price a bit. I think the deal will happen myself.
Finally I've read this morning that Sahin may be going back to the Bundesliga.
Well I've just seen that we may in fact be trying to get something sorted with Sneijder.
probably not the best source but this is one possible move that excites me a bit cause we to strengthen that midfield. It's potentially a bit of a marquee signing too, so maybe a few will stand up and listen
I asked my neighbor to translate some Italian papers, and websites etc., plus to see if there's anything he trusts in regards to Sneijder, and he said "no".. Furthermore, and I think you'll see it if you have not already, Sky has just said absolutely no interest from LFC.. I take it all with a pinch, but just don't see it..
Tom Ince, as again, I'm sure you'll see, or have done, is at a complete impass with Blackpool asking 8M and refusing to budge AND asking for a sell on clause of their own, or something else to trick the deal..
Lastly, I haven't seen yet, but spoke to some I talk to over on your side, and apparently Ian Ayre (our Chief in Getting Nothing Done) has said he is trying to step it up further this window (what that means to him vs us, I'll never know) and if not, will make for a BIG (again Ayre talk) pushes / moves in the summer..
I think seeing the latter part of today with Sturridge, Suarez and Borini on, we saw some very exciting things, so if we could add just 1 more, and scrape by, while climbing up to top 6 maybe 5th, then we could be in for a nice summer.
I hate waiting, and even making myself feel like I'm settling, but it's the reality, and seeing as how Downing was back to Downing, he and 1-2 more need to go, so we can free up dead wages.. That's the bottom line.. wages
That, while I think can be offset by Lucas at his very best, ie- going into the Chelsea cup match where injuring himself, is something that would result in us having to offload at least 1-2 existing cms..
Since they are all very talented, but some a bit redundant, the question is who, and not why. It's nice to have depth, but we don't have enough at fullback and wide areas (slowly improving w/ Borini's return up front), and 6 in central is just too much really, espcially with Gerrard still being a class above..
Jonjo? I wouldn't
Jordan? Finding some form, but a bit redundant yet..
Allen? Some would say yes, but the answer is no..
Sahin - out the door basically
Spearing on loan, will be sold for very little
Coady? I wouldn't.. on peripheries of breaking in and very talented..
All have their strenghts and weaknesses, obviously Sahin/Spearing aside, but none truly excels at any one thing like Gerrard does with his set pieces and command of the deep mid..
For whatever reason, and maybe it's just my perception, on the few occasions Jordan has paired with Gerrard, they seem to have been impeccable.. Neither is a "monster", but Jordan's work rate and athleticism is probably best of the lot, and Gerrard can stick a tackle like anyone else.. You'd think they were the "odd couple", but again, this could just be perception of my own, from only a few instances..
Maybe we shouldm put in a cheeky bid for Torres.. as Chelsea will be keen to offload him. He'd suit our style well I'm sure.. He'd give us a bit more bite upfront.. he still has a lot of love for LFC.
He isn't injured, he was till November but has just not been selected much since his return, partly to do with regaining fitness but mostly to do with refusing a pay cut, why would he take a pay cut on the contract they had given him anyway, we didnt even do that to Joe Cole or Jovanovic!
There are a number of problems as to why he hasnt gone anywhere else, United seem taylor made for him but they are strongly linked with Lars Bender and Kevin Strootman as enforcer style players plus they already have rooney who seems destined to play deeper from now on.
Chelsea are trying to buy the best young talent from all over the world so he just doesnt fit their philosophy. Man City have got Silva already though you can never rule them out. Arsenal and £150k a week wages? Don't think so, Spurs the same and sadly, most probably us too.I know I am daydreaming a bit but lets be honest, take the wages out, that guy could boss it at most clubs in the world, an enquiry has to be made at least!
Gerrard - Alonso - Sneijder, you know it makes sense!
To be honest those days for Lucas are over with.. and I'm not saying that because he's not physically capable of it, it's just that since he's been at Liverpool, which I believe is 7 years now, he's been groomed as nothing other than a defensive or holding midfielder..
The irony of it all was, when Rafa signed him from Gremio back then, he was named Young Attacking Brazillian of the year (maybe missing "midfielder" in that), and immediately, as Rafa was known to and still does, tinkered with him all over the park, and we saw what a negative affect it had on the lad for so long until he got better..
So credit to Lucas, but while he could do a job going forward retaining posession, maybe pick a pass or two, his shooting is woeful, I couldn't even remember him landing one on target, aside from a goal in a summer friendly vs Bayer Leverkeusen this past August, but also, he's not the most athletic or quick.
Of the ample mids we have, Stevie aside, Jonjo and Jordan seem to be the most comfortabe, athletic and improving, and while not a midfielder, that's where Suso should eventually end up, further advanced ala David Silva who lines up left, but never spends 1 second there..
Aside from Gerrard and Henderson at the moment, none seem healthy or in good form, but when they all are, we have quite a plethora of choices, only I think 1 or 2 may be redundant, where in the summer or further along we could use a creative 10, like Christian Eriksson of Ajax, Munaian from Bilbao, Belhanda from Montpellier etc etc.. World class, young with experience..
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