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.. of modern football is if we wanna win titles we need:
1 owners that can splash the cash on players who can do the business, and not penny pinch and expect cheapy youngsters to do the job.
2. A manager with drive and ambition and with the skills and ambition to do make us a force again (sorry Brendan thats not you nor will it ever).
3. A huge stadium in which to pull in the fans and add to further revenue on top players.
4. Improve our status worldwide so we get monies from foreign countries.
Sofa, I know I and others have encouraged you to do a little research on FFP in the past so you can get a basic understanding of what the new regulations are, and the constraints on spending they will create.
However that seems to have fallen on deaf ears, so let’s try a different approach.
I assume you live on a budget of some kind, even if you don't formally write down all you’re income and outgoings. I also assume you can understand the basics of how a company keeps its books, including adding up earnings, taking away outgoings or costs, before ending up with a number that is something like profit.
So in that light, please tell me what happens to you if you spend more than you take in? If what you spend on rent or a house payment, what you spend on food, clothing, and other expenses is actually more than whatever earnings you have, how do you finance the difference?
Now I know your answer is both 1 and 3 in your points, that is get yourself a really rich sheik to give you the money, and then build a shiny new stadium. But is that really realistic? Let's leave aside that FFP does not allow the sheik to just to write you cheques, do you really think there are many people in the world who are willing to just hand over 50M or more every year plus stump us 400M or more so you can sit in a nice shiny stadium and watch the over paid players their money bought?
Let's go back to the analogy and ask yourself if you are living beyond your means, and you’re lucky enough to find someone willing to give you money to make up the difference, how long do you think they'd keep handing over cash so you can dress up in nice cloths and drive around in a car you can't afford?
- 2 Replies to dsteer_lfc_68
Ok then Steer.. answer this one for me why is it that Man City & Chelsea can just go out and buy the best players?
Are they playing fair to FFP?
As it seems rather unfair that we're trying to control our budget )LFC) yet they're able to spend willy nilly..
As for my own income thats my own business and not privvy to discussion on a public forum.
...stererage are you dumb as you sound
sofa DOSENT HAVE TO spend any money on rent etc
he gets it all paid for by the state
he sits in that fancy souped up drag machine scamming of the tax payer for everything
FFS, wise up, thank fook i earned enough to retire at 40 and not pay any more money into that QUNTS internet fund, of which is paid for and he gets a new laptop every 3 years cos of his dyslexia
WHAT A QUNT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so how the foook do you expect it to understand what you have asked never mind have even the remotist football conversation
it took the QUNT 10 yrs to support lfc....................that says it all
And here we are. We have now fully circumvented the sofa.
1. FSG did that. We bought Carroll, Downing and Henderson. Go figure! How would it fit with FFP?
2. And how long does it take to change a clubs position? How long would you give the new manager?
3. Didn't we discuss this some time ago?
4. FSG are doing that already.
Read the article below and tell me if you were around at that time if you were asking for Shankly's head in 1961 when after 18 months in charge he hadn't won the league; and in 1967 when Liverpool didn't win the league title and didn't actually win it again until 1972-73.
Dave...yes u answer to Sofa does make sense but as u say spending on infrastructure doesnt count towards FFP regs. So therefore what Sofa is saying about John Henry selling to a rich Sheik actually does make sense. Why ? Because that Sheik can spend all he wants on a huge 80,000 seater stadium built via 3 round the clock shifts creating a big chunk of employment in the process and during this time we can empty the lists waiting for season tickets on a first come first served basis and voila the club is earning oddles of cash and is fully in compliance with FFP. We might then also be able to compete with Chelski Citeh and UniTURD...IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM ! Which means we could afford to bring in World Class talent such as Cavanni as opposed to Squad Dross like Borini !
I Think ED has it right Robertalia ;o)
ha ha, I am glad someone enjoyed it, I personally found myself very funny. Ok, if we are going like this....
Chelsea FC is like Anna Nicole Smith. Never quite the big story but attractive nonetheless, skint with her looks beggining to fade she married a multi millionaire who developed an obssesion for an acquired taste of pretty. He spent millions on making her happy, firing employee after employee whilst blowing astonishing amounts on new jewelery and clothes. In the end, Mr Marshall died and left her what she thought was a fortune, she dwindled into chaos and eventually died ending the sorry tale of financed happiness.
Colin, maybe it is best we agree to disagree on what the business plan should be. I'll continue to support the owners if they implement the same or a similar plan that has brought them great success in the past, and you can advocate something different.
btw, not many want to watch women’s soccer, that was the point. The league went belly up, so is a good example of not all American sports franchises increasing in value.
Just to add to that dsteer, I am encouraged to find that, Armchair apart perhaps, the reality of our situation has dawned on just about everyone on this board. Though I like the occasional moan when we take those inevitable backward steps, I have a growing confidence in the way the club is being shaped. I have a better excuse for impatience than our "reclining "friend too, being 70 this month. But, unlike him perhaps, I´m prepared to wait and see for quite a bit yet!
DAVE..iM FULLY AWARE NOT MANY WANT TO WATCH womens soccer over there the only thing that surprises me is that ANY want to watch it !
As for agreeing to disagree sounds right to me. As I said thing is if u put out u own money to build a stadium you will have the aditional earnings over increased capacity up until the day u sell the franchise then for sure the owners have their money back in total for the stadium plus... so cant see the problem here unless of course they dont have deep pockets and are not too well off and cant afford to invest that kind of money.
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