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This guy is an out- and out cheat. I'm aware that most players cheat but Suarez's incessant cheating is ridiculous.
How he can go down like that to con the referee like he has been shot is unbelievable.
Thank goodness justice was done when Foster saved the soft penalty awarded.
He's certainly cheated in the past (as has pretty much every professional footballer) but if you're going to call him a cheat for feeling a nudge in the back and going to ground, then I think you should be complaining about many others.
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Sorry for a belated response.
As I highlighted in my opening post, most footballers cheat. In fact, I was ashamed and felt badly for WBA when Cazorla dived against them early in the season at the Emirates. Being an isolated incident in his game, I was able to forgive Cazorla on that occasion but what he did was wrong and uncalled for as we were on top of WBA at the time. Even though we won the match but I felt that the 3 points was tainted as a result of cheating.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to singled one Suarez unfairly for criticism, but what I dislike about him is the constant bickering to the officials, trying to gain advantage unfairly when playing and electing to go down at any slightest of touch on him. Strangely enough, I was watching the African of Nations final on Sunday between Nigeria and Burkina Faso. An incident happened in Burkina Faso's penalty box leading up to Nigeria's match winning goal when Victor Moses was clattered by one of the Burkina Faso's defenders. Moses could have easily gone down and nobody would blame the referee for awarding a penalty kick, in fact the commentators said that he should have done that to earn his side a penalty, but Moses didn't and tried to stay on his feet. And they were rewarded for his honesty.
I'm not disputing the fact that there's a nudge in his back, but for me he played for the penalty by sandwiching himself between the two defenders which is another form of cheating in my book.
I am seeing more and more posts from Reds on other forums deploring this guy. He wears the shirt but he discredits it so many times with his antics. Tonight again was no different.
He is an exceptional player. But I find myself disliking him more and more with each unsavoury incident.
If you're going to ask me questions that I've just answered then this might turn into a lengthy thread!
"Honestly Robert - not really" - was my answer.
Maybe that is because I've gotten used to it as I see it every time I watch a football match (Liverpool or not). So, no, it's not Liverpool/Suarez dependant.
How about you - do you find those things unsavoury? And if so, are they still unsavoury when a Chelsea player does them? Or are they unsavoury when a Chelsea player does them but you think it shouldn't be said?
Honestly Robert - not really. Certainly no more so than watching any game of footy.
Players whinge at referees and have done for years (Ashley Cole, John Terry & Wayne Rooney are just three high profile examples). Players hit the turf when contact has been made with them (I have given an example of Shane Long in the same game there are loads other).
In short, lots of players behave in the way Suarez does. I wish it wasn't so (and I'm certainly not excusing Suarez for it) but to continually single him out above anyone else strikes me as not right.
I think the last time we discussed unsavoury behaviour by a Chelsea player was when you raised on the Liverpool board the behaviour of Eden Hazard. I repeatedly said he had overstepped the mark and recognised the red card as appropriate. There was greater discussion about it on the United board.
You can talk about that more if you like, but I suspect everything that can be said has already been said.
I haven't criticised any Liverpool player moaning at the referee. I criticised Suarez sarcastically clapping a referee's decision for which I said he was rightly booked. No Chelsea player did that on Saturday that I saw. I'm not sure Terry has ever done it. Cole did it once, that I remember, several years ago in a 4-4 draw against Spurs(?), for which the press went to town on him.
As it happens, Chelsea players don't do a great deal of whingeing at the ref these days. Generally rather less than their opponents do, that I've noticed. I think we generally get good points in the Fair Play Table for this.
Sorry, I meant to say ...
Re:Shane Long. I note you assume that Sky didn't show the incident because it didn't result in a penalty which is fair enough.
That said I somehow doubt that, if a penalty had been awarded to him, he missed it & Liverpool went on to win by 2 goals - Sky would have asked three questions about it or that there would be "Long in unsavoury cheating" posts.
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