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Why should FSG allow Rodgers to make LFC his experiment just so he can gain experience? We need a seasoned manager who knows his stuff and knows what it's like to win titles. I've no idea what BS Rodgers said to Henry but it was clearly good enough to con him. I'm now thinking would we have been better off with Martinez? Then again I'd have neither of them and gone with Villas Boas. He's doing well at Spurs. We missed a trick there by not getting him..
Do you lads know what an apprentice is? You speak as if Rodgers has no management experience at all, when the facts are actually quite the opposite; he's been involved in coaching for nearly 20 years. But I suppose learning the ropes as a youth coach or a reserve team coach does not count in your eyes, although most would consider this to be the apprenticeship period for first team management.
But if your only willing to look at experience as a first team manager it’s at Watford and Reading where he cut his teeth, and then I suppose getting promoted from the championship and ensuring his clubs safety by establishing Swansea as a mid-table prem club does not count either. The excuse being it was Martinez's side he got promoted not his own. But if he can't take credit for what he did in 2 seasons at Swansea why should he be blamed for what he's done in less than a season with us. Surely the logic should be if you’re not happy with BR right now, is to blame KD!
But since we're on the subject of being short sighted or long sighted or the need to have experience doing it at the highest level before being trusted with a top job, I'd just ask some to reflect on what our past great manager did. Shanks had never managed in the top flight before he came to us; it took him 2 full seasons to get promoted back to the first division, then another 2 seasons to win the title. But by the logic on here while some would never have hired him because he'd never done it with a big club before, others would have chucked him out before he finished his first full season, and most likely we'd never have seen what most of us miss.
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Dave I was there when Shanks was appointed please dont mention this Muppet Rogers again in the same breath as u use to mention the Great Man. Bill Shankly established an attitude at Anfield that transformed into a winning mentality that in turn became a habit of winning. This guy has just got a collection of individuals without a winning mentality as he hasnt even yet managed to establish the "attitude" that precedes te "winning mentality"....Yes he came from Huddersfield Town and nobody less than Dennis Law himself said that had he not left for Liverpool he would unquestionably have turned Huddersfield into a similar dynasty that he managed to establish at Anfield...Law was his protoge at Huddersfield. He bought in very well and immediately upon his arrival he started to dismantle the first eleven and upon returning to Div 1 made an immediate impact via his signings of RonYeats a towering centrehalf "The Collosus" as he was known and Ian St John to partner Roger Hunt up front along with Cally on one wing and the inspired signing from PNE the flying winger Peter Thompson on the other...he made at this time no poor signings at all and inculcated that winning mentality into his lads...Rogers will never do that because hes incapable of it he can produce an average Prem side maybe mid table side but his sides will always labour under the curse of inconsistency and that is all down to him.
"Why should FSG allow Rodgers to make LFC his experiment just so he can gain experience?" - Is it not their experiment? They appoint the manager and the types of player we bring in are heavily influenced by their philosophy.
"We need a seasoned manager who knows his stuff and knows what it's like to win titles." Like who? Rafa Benitez? Roy Hodgson? Kenny Dalglish? Thats 3 managers all experienced and all won titles, did that do the trick for us?
"I've no idea what BS Rodgers said to Henry but it was clearly good enough to con him. I'm now thinking would we have been better off with Martinez? Then again I'd have neither of them and gone with Villas Boas. He's doing well at Spurs. We missed a trick there by not getting him.."
Martinez and AVB, 1 portugese league title between them and both combined been in the managerial game for less then BR.
Slate the manager all day long, you have to have some logic to it though!
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No thinking along the lines of Manchini that calibre.. Hodgson is #$%$ and KD had been out of the game too long. Had KD still been a manager at the very top when we appointed him that would've been different. We got a KD that hadn't been a manager for many years. He was out of touch and it showed. So you approve of a manager trying to cut his teeth at a top club like ours then? There's plaent y of candidates out there that would've been perfect for us.. it's just dangling the carrot in front of them to get them. Villias Boas has been great with Spurs just the man we needed. Yes manybe that contracts my statement about wanting someone with expererience. He's the exception to the rule. We missed a trick there by not getting him. He never was suited for Chelsea but at a club like Spurs & LFC he'd have more freedom.
Hobitez ..another question , who has Rogers added to the squad via his transfer dealings since he arrived that has made it a better squad ? Couhtino...yes perhaps. Allen..NO ! Borini ..NO ! Assaidi..NO ! Sturridge..NO ! Now he wants 12 mill to bring in another Swansea deadleg a 28 yr old deadleg too in Williams and he will be another defo NO ! So for the most part whos team is this..Id suggest KK's.
Hobitez...my logic..... results and the football we have been playing this last month the awful inconsistency that plagues this side that derives zero inspiration from their manager inanimate on the sideline. There is a problem some kind of weird undercurrent running through this squad and it needs to be dealt with and Rogers aint the man to deal with it. I believe its there primarily because of him and his style of management. I think despite all the well publicised kick-up-the- #$%$ hes sposed to have given certain players this same tactic isnt working with others hence this weird undercurrent in the squad and I think this is the main reason for the inconsistency in our form. Its HIS JOB to address such problems and I dont think hes doing it. This is a problem of "attitude" where certain members of the squad are concerned.