HAHA!Read this to see how butch got EMBARRASSED by me, clive and to a certain extent, fab.....http://uk.messages.eurosport.yahoo.com/Football/Teams/threadview?m=te&bn=UKS-FO-manchester-united&tid=230520&mid=230520&tof=1&frt=1#230520To figure out the whole story read the thread entirley and look at the links I posted...