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  • Petrus

    Re: F1 Drinking Championships

    Petrus by Petrus . Nov 17, 2007 07:06 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Lickin' my lips already!!

    Lickin' my lips already!!

  • paddockbend

    Re: F1 Drinking Championships

    paddockbend by paddockbend . Nov 21, 2007 18:57 . Permalink . Go to topic

    tehehehe. Nice one, Petrus. Why, I wonder, does the board censor "a male chicken" but leav...

    tehehehe. Nice one, Petrus.
    Why, I wonder, does the board censor "a male chicken" but leave other, possibly more offensive, words entire?
    Must be a total bl**dy nightmare to post on The Fowl & Poultry Keepers Message Board.

  • A Yahoo! User

    Re: Rules and appealers

    by A Yahoo! User . Nov 18, 2007 00:48 . Permalink . Go to topic

    I appeal, you appeal, he appeals ........we appeal, you appeal they..................loose...

    I appeal, you appeal, he appeals ........we appeal, you appeal they..................loose appeal

  • paddockbend

    Re: Closure? Or will the wheel keep rolling?

    paddockbend by paddockbend . Nov 18, 2007 02:50 . Permalink . Go to topic

    If I`m wrong, I`ll always apologise. I might sometimes take some convincing I`m wrong in t...

    If I`m wrong, I`ll always apologise.
    I might sometimes take some convincing I`m wrong in the first place, though ;-)

  • paddockbend

    Re: On topic but off the wall

    paddockbend by paddockbend . Nov 20, 2007 18:37 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Just my very unPC humour. It was actually from some newspaper to explain the timeline of e...

    Just my very unPC humour. It was actually from some newspaper to explain the timeline of events.
    I giggled that JT had to stand on a chair to tick off NS :)

  • A Yahoo! User

    Re: On topic but off the wall

    by A Yahoo! User . Nov 22, 2007 18:29 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Uhmm.... More 'Silence of the Lambs' really. Hannibal Lecter quote at end of film "I'm b...

    Uhmm....

    More 'Silence of the Lambs' really.

    Hannibal Lecter quote at end of film "I'm busy tonight...having some friends for dinner"

    Enough to make you turn vege!!

  • paddockbend

    Re: How does Kimi feel about his title?

    paddockbend by paddockbend . Nov 21, 2007 06:09 . Permalink . Go to topic

    “These were joyful days with many celebrations,” he said. “It seems I can't stop smiling."

    “These were joyful days with many celebrations,” he said.
    “It seems I can't stop smiling."

  • A Yahoo! User

    Re: Ferrari Ducati Aprilia

    by A Yahoo! User . Nov 23, 2007 01:45 . Permalink . Go to topic

    do they partecipate directly ........? they probably substain private teams ...given that...

    do they partecipate directly ........? they probably substain private teams ...given that they pay . Come on ....let' s give up ..............why don' t you say them ...''bravi'' .......at least once in a life ? There is technical culture in that NORTHERN italian triangle I cited ..........as there is in England and Germany.........
    sometimes those who are in competition should recognize the value of those that stand in their front. There' s also an Austrian motorbyke mark competing in races that if I'm not wrong has its reserch centre near Venice which is the home of Aprilia.

  • Chas

    Re: Who will get the other seat at McLaren

    Chas by Chas . Nov 9, 2007 01:21 . Permalink . Go to topic

    lol....I'm not paranoid...just stating facts...think we ought to drop this now don't you

    lol....I'm not paranoid...just stating facts...think we ought to drop this now don't you

  • Ian

    Re: Who will get the other seat at McLaren

    Ian by Ian . Nov 10, 2007 00:02 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Or just press the blue reply button and below the reply message box is the whole original ...

    Or just press the blue reply button and below the reply message box is the whole original message.

    Also you can "thread" the messages by pressing the "threaded" word top left of the post. I find it a bit confusing though to be honest.

    If thats what you meant.

  • GRAHAM J

    Re: new F1 spy allegations

    GRAHAM J by GRAHAM J . Dec 7, 2007 00:53 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Will somebody please buy (or push) out Uncle Ron! Enough is enough, it's been good while i...

    Will somebody please buy (or push) out Uncle Ron!
    Enough is enough, it's been good while it lasted but it's maybe time to go. Massive damage has been done to a once proud team, it's time to put things right.
    There are enough "idiots" involved in F1 at the moment, we just don't need another one...

  • danimik

    Re: McLaren vs Renault

    danimik by danimik . Nov 24, 2007 00:01 . Permalink . Go to topic

    or it could be a journalist doesn't know the difference between a floppy and a hard-drive,...

    or it could be a journalist doesn't know the difference between a floppy and a hard-drive, a floppy and a cdrom. Wouldn't be a first. I think you'd probably get this on one of the dvd formats.

    Mind you, I've no idea how much space a blueprint takes - I know that photos and videos are expensive in terms of memory, but a blue print? 'Tis only two colour which would reduce the amount of space, I think, but that's where my knowledge stops.

  • GRAHAM J

    Re: fisichella and r.shumacher

    GRAHAM J by GRAHAM J . Nov 29, 2007 22:26 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Good comment lady, got to back you and Andy up on this one, it looks like they are both ju...

    Good comment lady, got to back you and Andy up on this one, it looks like they are both just looking for a payday again.
    Move over, there are young drivers waiting in the wings for their chance to shine.
    Get rid of the "has been's" (they know who they are) and bring some new talent onto the grid

  • GRAHAM J

    Re: Hamiltons new team-mate

    GRAHAM J by GRAHAM J . Nov 30, 2007 01:16 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Didn't know they fitted front air-bags in F1 cars? And the mirrors are in the wrong place ...

    Didn't know they fitted front air-bags in F1 cars? And the mirrors are in the wrong place for Naomi to put her lippy on... so the Sun must be wrong (for once).

  • paddockbend

    Re: Melbourne GP under threat....

    paddockbend by paddockbend . Nov 8, 2007 23:11 . Permalink . Go to topic

    roflolol! Oh, and I sooooo wanted to enter my Husqvarna ;-)

    roflolol! Oh, and I sooooo wanted to enter my Husqvarna ;-)

  • paddockbend

    Re: Melbourne GP under threat....

    paddockbend by paddockbend . Nov 8, 2007 23:48 . Permalink . Go to topic

    BTW that`s Fields In Australia regs.

    BTW that`s Fields In Australia regs.

  • probablygraham

    Re: Guilty but not penalised

    probablygraham by probablygraham . Dec 8, 2007 04:06 . Permalink . Go to topic

    The whole thing stinks, and Mosley still wants to ruin Ron Dennis because he (unlike Max) ...

    The whole thing stinks, and Mosley still wants to ruin Ron Dennis because he (unlike Max) managed to run a successful team.

    As I understand it, there was proof of Renault being in possession of stolen material (as in the case of McLaren) but there was no proof that this material was used (as in the case of McLaren). So just a slight difference in the punishment, where one team has the championship taken away and has to pay half a billion and may still be punished more if evidence is found. Strange that the same statement has not been made about Renault - unless I missed something nobody is sniffing around their factory looking for anything that might be a stolen idea....

    Can you imagine a court case coming up where the judge makes comments to the press a few days before like "I'm pretty sure there won't be a conviction because this is nothing like the case we had a few weeks ago" or "I'll give up my job if the defendent is found guilty" etc. etc. which is basically what Max and Bernie were saying - and however you see it Bernie is the judge and Max is his puppet.

    If F1 is to have any credibility at all in future, any cases involving what in the "real" world is regarded as illegal - as in industrial espionage, not flexible wings and floors - must go to a proper criminal court. I wouldn't want to see it but I doubt anyone would ever use the option.

  • Paul

    Re: Fair verdict

    Paul by Paul . Dec 7, 2007 20:15 . Permalink . Go to topic

    it seems as though the verdict was because Renault didn't actually use any of the info, or...

    it seems as though the verdict was because Renault didn't actually use any of the info, or at least no evidence of it. McClaren appeared to make use of the Ferrari info so the case is slightly different.

    if you read the statements about the decision you will see that the penalty will be if the championship was altered due to the use of stolen info. renaults didn't gain anything from the info they got but mcclaren appeared to gain something. their performance certainly seemed to improve dramatically from the start of the season.

  • Ian

    Re: Fair verdict

    Ian by Ian . Dec 7, 2007 21:41 . Permalink . Go to topic

    You know quite well paddockbend that there is no evidence that McLaren had any benefit or ...

    You know quite well paddockbend that there is no evidence that McLaren had any benefit or used the Ferrari info. They got punished becouse it became evident that others, as well as Coughlin, had seen or discussed the Ferrari stuff. This is the starting point for Renault. They should be punished.
    Your transcript just shows that Renault had information they couldn't or didn't want to use. They only found out they couldn't use it becouse they discussed it at high enough level. The intent is clearly there.

    I am a McLaren supporter and know that the team didn't want the same level of punishment for Renault but there should be some sanction.

  • paddockbend

    Re: Fair verdict

    paddockbend by paddockbend . Dec 7, 2007 21:19 . Permalink . Go to topic

    Explain to me why this is NOT a fair decision? It`s exactly the same as the first McLaren ...

    Explain to me why this is NOT a fair decision?
    It`s exactly the same as the first McLaren decision which many here thought was extremely fair.
    The complaints now seem to be less about how the WMSC punishes but more to do with who they should or shouldn`t punish at all!
    I have absolutely no axe to grind on this one - McLaren & Renault, I have no preference.
    What I`m seeing is a lot of people suddenly using the exact opposite of the arguments they used in the Ferrari/McLaren cases.

  • Petrus

    Re: Fair verdict

    Petrus by Petrus . Dec 10, 2007 06:50 . Permalink . Go to topic

    You're right .... that's a dreadful analogy you've given, means absolutely nothing. You ar...

    You're right .... that's a dreadful analogy you've given, means absolutely nothing. You are not even slightly receptive to my point about 'Use' and/or interpretation of 'Use'. I know exactly your point, what I'm trying is to get you to think outside the box - don't think 'word of the law', think 'interpretation of word of the law'. Then apply it pragmatically not dogmatically. I can't put it any clearer nor can I make it clearer than my previous post and my other posts on the other thread. If umpteen people in Renault's works have seen and discussed information then they have gained a sporting advantage. They can be punished for that under existing rules. Refer it to Danimik, Graham and the others, have a brandy AND a port - get your head out of the rule book!

  • A Yahoo! User

    Re: Max Mosley gunning for Brundle

    by A Yahoo! User . Dec 10, 2007 02:22 . Permalink . Go to topic

    I suspect your right andy k, but in an idealistic world and with more than my stomach full...

    I suspect your right andy k, but in an idealistic world and with more than my stomach full of sensitivity to political correctness, we cannot even suggest Max was influenced by his parents. Sounds bizzarre, but that's the way it is. We don't need to look any further than Max himself and his own history to see he's a complete weasel.

  • andy

    Re: Max Mosley gunning for Brundle

    andy by andy . Dec 11, 2007 02:17 . Permalink . Go to topic

    if you want to know whats happening in the race these days you need to use the live timing...

    if you want to know whats happening in the race these days you need to use the live timing feed from the f1 site, if you dont you are not seeing the whole race. the commentary cant be relied on to be factually accurate let alone give the whole picture. james allen just makes it up as he goes along sometimes.
    hammond in the f1 car was funny, but i think he was playing up a bit too. really it was the tyres he was having problems with. if they made f1 wheels with rubber from a normal race car hed probably have been ok to a point.
    ok well lets give mosely the benefit of the doubt, maybe he has deprogrammed himself from being a facist, but hes still an #$%$

  • Gray's Ghost

    Re: Mosely biased towards Ferrari?

    Gray's Ghost by Gray's Ghost . Dec 13, 2007 04:02 . Permalink . Go to topic

    I'm sorry, I'll admit openly that I was wrong. Your name isn't Max. Is it Jean Todt or M...

    I'm sorry, I'll admit openly that I was wrong.

    Your name isn't Max.

    Is it Jean Todt or Michael Shumacher.

    I'm only asking because you are so scary as you do not appear to be able to admit that Ferrari is:

    1 - just another constructor
    2 - just as able to make mistakes and break the rules as any other constructor
    3 - owned by another company (15% shares is a minority holding in anyone's book except yours)
    4 - supported by Max Mosely, and if you're in doubt of this listen to his statements to the press

    I'm out of here because there are times when you meet people that are beyond rational conversation and Paddock .......

  • Chas

    Re: Mosely biased towards Ferrari?

    Chas by Chas . Dec 13, 2007 18:22 . Permalink . Go to topic

    I've seen it too and I'm sorry paddock I tend to agree with danimik...his whole demeanor i...

    I've seen it too and I'm sorry paddock I tend to agree with danimik...his whole demeanor is different when talking about RD...as others have said for the good of the sport..he should step down. We need someone (although I admit I'm not sure who) who loves F1, knows the sport inside out and is clearly not biased against any team or individual and does not favour one team over others also..someone who can be trusted to see fair play done and makes sure that all penalties are consistent throughout the pit lane

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