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Looks like a balls up by our friends at Yahoo! There were plenty of posts following the match yesterday and all was right with the world until about 11.15 GMT when they switched over to the new layout. For some reason they are not displaying any posts between the 15th and the time of the switch over. It does not look like they have lost the content because if you go to the Yahoo Liverpool home page and look at the Yahoo message board box low down in the right hand column you can see the latest posts. However if you click them it does not present the thread but just takes you to the message page.
Does this mean my words of wisdom from earlier will be lost to posterity?
Squirl, you are spot on with this post.
A lot of the regular posters on here fall in to one of four categories:
1) “Sugar Daddy Cravers” – These moan constantly about the fact that we do not have as much money to spend as Chelski and Citeh and that if only we could find a rich benefactor we could buy our way to becoming a great team. Yes, as the above teams have shown, you can buy success, but would you really want LFC to become a rich man’s play thing like them? I believe we need to work for success so that when it comes it will be all the sweeter, in the meantime if you want instant gratification, support Chelski or hire a prostitute (much the same thing really)!
2) “Wasn’t the past grand!” – These focus on how great everything was 40 years ago and how it would all come good if we could only go back to the time of the boot room, heavy studded boots and diphtheria. They seem to ignore the fact that while our past was glorious (as it undoubtedly was) it remains the past and will not earn us one more point nor win us a single piece of silverware in the future.
3) “Eternal moaners” – These are perhaps the hardest to understand in that they delight in finding something negative to say even when things go well, and for them every silver lining had a cloud. In the immortal words of Thumper “If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all”. In the meantime, why not see the above point re instant gratification to cheer yourselves up!
4) “Fifth columnists” – Call me paranoid but I’m pretty certain that amongst the self-proclaimed supporters’ posting on here is a fair sprinkling of wind up merchants who are no more fans of LFC than fly. You can normally tell them by their constant digs which usually stop just short of saying LFC are @*#&!. Such pond life is usually best ignored.
In conclusion, no one objects to genuine discussion or criticism where due and constructive but for my money a supporter supports. So when anyone next feels like having a moan, decide in advance which category you want to go in to!
No, just a general dig at the merchants of woe!
Like you, I now look forward to upcoming games with eager anticipation rather than nervy trepidation. I feel decent runs in the FA and Europa cups (semis or better) and top 6 or higher in PL are on the cards.
We took my mother in law out for dinner the other week to a local pub which has a really good menu. When I asked her what she thought of the choice she replied that there we not much on there for a vegetarian, even though she eats meat!!!
The reason I recount this merry tale is that it reminds me of a good few posters on this board who refuse to be positive even when things are generally looking up.
Yes we would all like to higher up the league, yes it would be good if we could be more consistent against “lesser” opposition and yes it would be great to start turning over some of the bigger names. But I can also see a bunch of reasons to be upbeat including:
• Suarez is playing out of his skin.
• Sturridge has more than hit the floor running.
• Sterling has been an unexpected bonus and will become even better once he sorts the final ball
• Henderson is starting to look the player he should be.
• Lucas is back from injury and starting to return to effectiveness
• Stevie G. has emerged from his relative trough and has looked immense in the last few games.
• Injuries aside we have a good set of wider, defensive players, all of whom are capable of attacking the wings (Kelly, Enrique, Glen).
• The style of play we have occasionally shown recently (albeit not as consistently as we would want) is both exciting and effective.
• A good run of results, including 6 from 9 in the PL.
So feel free to call me a hopeless optimist, but I would much rather be like Eric Idle in the Life Of Brian than Marvin the Android in the Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy!
The pope is Catholic, Luxembourg is small, bears do sh!t in the woods and most footballers cheat if they can get away with it. The difference if that Suarez has owned up but it appears that he is now being condemned for being honest about his past dishonesty!
I don't remember diver in chief Drogba every fezzing up for his regular Tom Dayley impressions, maybe he had better PR men.
I don't know if anyone has been tracking the Leveson enquiry but the Hillsborough disaster and subsequent reporting was covered in some detail as an example of how the press lies and gets away with it.
Anyway, despite the fact that Leveson has recommended the press should be properly regulated in looks like Cameron in going to let them off easy.
Hacked Off is running a petition at http://hackinginquiry.org/ to try and stop Murdoch and mates from getting off the hook so if you hate the Sun it's well worth a look.
So Sean shall hereafter be known as Jane. Perhaps his gender confusion is the reason he apparently hangs around in pubs trying to pick up men he has never met before!
Sean, while there may be people out there interested in your lascivious liaisons with strange men in pubs I could frankly care less. Meanwhile it may come as a shock to you to find there is more than one ‘Bob’ on these boards so next time at least try to get the right one. I’ve never been nor claimed to be in the military or a mercenary (or even a mercinary to use your rather peculiar lexicon).
I believe haha is the expression!
- Reply to Hobitez Oct 19, 2012 14:04
Let's face it, he might have worn the shirt but he was never a true LFC player as his disgusting antics at Celtic proved.
And as for that hair cut, someone really should tell him that a Brazilian is meant to go somewhere else on the anatomy!
I know you like to use the loss of Andy Carroll as a tacit means of taking a dig at BR but anyone would think from your posts that AC was a goal scoring machine who knocked them in with monotonous regularity. In truth his £35 million cost returned 11 goals from 58 appearances.
The much castigated Borini has scored 1 from 10 but for an outlay of £10 million. Even though he is still early in his LFC career this suggests a better financial return on goals per game than AC so how about a little perspective?
Turning to the match as a whole, it was a bit of a curate’s egg. We did dominate possession in the first half but there were times when we were keener to just keep the ball than go for the riskier but potentially more penetrative pass. As a result we had nothing like the attempts on goal we should have considering our possession.
In the second half our defence looked pretty shaky and two of the goals were very poor. Steve G and Suarez still stand out, and we really need the rest of the team to learn from them how to combine passing accurately with being able to penetrate defences.
Enrique has had a couple of dodgy performances this year but I'm not sure we can call him lazy. If anything I think he is trying too hard to impress, using his speed to shoot off up the left at every opportunity or looking for the miracle long ball, when a simple pass might have been the better option. He needs to calm down a bit and show he is buying in to the passing game that BR is developing. If he can't do that then he probably does not have much of a future.
First off I had no family involved and cannot for a second begin to imagine the pain and hurt suffered by the families affected, nor their frustration that it has taken so long to get to where we now are.
Today’s release has confirmed what we have all believed for a long time, that there was a concerted cover up by the police, that lives could have been saved if different decisions had been made and that the reputations of the innocent were cruelly and cynically smeared. At long last there is also an official apology from the PM on behalf of the state.
I do wonder however what is to be gained by yet another round of investigation or in particular by a new set of coroners reports. Yes it might change some words on a death certificate but at the price of further prolonging the pain of all concerned.
As I say, I suffered no loss and it is not my intention to dismiss the feelings of the families. But perhaps now might be a time for focussing more on trying to remember their loved ones from when they were alive rather than another round of painful reminders of the circumstances of their death!
Always happy to admit my mistake, I was indeed intending to use the word clamouring much as I believe you meant lexicologist rather than grammarian!
With regard to KK, I have the upmost respect from what he achieved at the club as a player and in his earlier stint as manager. However I think his 2011 appointment was a mistake which knocked some of the lustre off his reputation. His age meant it would never have been a long term appointment, his absence from the game meant he was out of touch with what is required of the modern manager (e.g. his press handling during the Suarez affair), and while he made some good appointments (Luis and Jose), there were also some turkeys (Adam and Carroll at the price). This is not 'dissing' (or disrespecting for those who respect the English language), simply my opinion.
I believe BR will prove to be an inspired appointment which will bring back the style of play that we love. This will not happen overnight so he must be given time. You call him a 'Yes man' (as you have ad nauseam in other posts), but would a confrontation with FSG at such an early stage really have helped to give him the time to deliver his plan or simply have led to an early demise and the start of another manager merry-go-round?
I would agree that we wait and see what progress we make this season. In the meantime I would hope we all continue to support the club INCLUDING the manager.
Has dsteer committed some terrible crime against you in a former life? I ask this because when you are not posting to bemoan the inadequacies of FSG you seem to spend most of your time having a pop at Dave. So he mixed up the Basque region with Catalonia, I'd never realised this board was part of the GCSE Geography assessment!
We have all made mistakes in the past, I can remember a certain 62 year old fan clambering to get rid of Benitez so as to bring back King Kenny. Tell me how did that masterful piece of strategic planning work?
So in the words of JC (Jesus Christ that is, not John Cleese), "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
A lot of the perennial prophets of doom on here seem to have lost sight of a few key truths:
a) BR is trying to introduce a different style of play which will take time. We saw some flashes of it against City but it may take months before it is truly embedded. I’ve seen a lot of Swansea over the last 18 months and if we can play with their poise but a better end result because of our players then I for one would be happy.
b) Joe Allen looks as good a purchase as we have made in years. Borini and Sahin have virtually no Premiership experience between them so will take time to adjust, but if BRs judgement on Allen is anything to go by I would suggest we give him the benefit of the doubt on their purchase.
c) Whether out of necessity or not, BR is having to blood new players (e.g. Stirling), or put greater reliance on them (e.g. Shelvey). From what I have seen so far these players are stepping up brilliantly and will only improve with more top level exposure.
d) Much as I respect Kenny for his former glories, some of his acquisitions were frankly awful so it is right that we have a bit of a clear out (e.g. Adam) and try to get control of the inflated wage bill (e.g. the loan of Carroll).
e) We are not Man City or Cheski so we cannot afford to simply buy success. We will instead have to be cleverer and build something over time. Of course some will say we have been without sustained success for some time but the blame for that can hardly be laid on the current incumbents.
It has been frankly a little depressing to see people who I had thought were fans calling for “FSG out” or taking a pop at BR already. Yes we all want LFC to be a success, but continuing the short term mentality will get us nowhere other than perhaps having the same conversation this time next year.
The classical scholars amongst LFC fans will know that the wearing of purple was a status symbol in the ancient world, indeed in Byzantium its use was restricted to the colouring of imperial garments. Perhaps our new owners have finally recognised that they are dealing with football royalty!
Of course there is always the other explanation which is that strip selection was handed over to a colour blind numpty with no more sense of what looks classy than a weasel on heat.