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Winning against Spurs would go a long way towards securing 4th. We are lucky they played on Thursday but what is it with all our injuries. It is hard to believe they are all the result of bad luck.
Wilshire, Ramsey, Theo, Ozil (no point in mentioning Diaby.)
The mind boggles that in the modern game a player is aloud to injure himself after a few minutes but continue to finish the 45 minutes. Unless that rumor is nonsense.
I have done my hamstring, and you know when you have done it or are in the process of doing it. Stopping as soon as you feel that twitch reduces the recovery time greatly.
- Govinda Govinda Mar 12, 2014 12:17 Flag
Part of Neville comments:
And finally he will improve more when he has a Striker that runs beyond and provides movement for his strengths.
'Some rightly pointing out others who have been up and down in the first season but then improved second and third.
'Every good num 10 needs 2 to 3 players that make runs behind and sacrifice themselves! Modern game problem - Too many want to be a num 10!
'On Xmas break - no excuse really for an experienced manager. He could have given him one first two weeks in Jan- Ronaldo used to get one!"
- Govinda Govinda Mar 12, 2014 11:52 Flag
Forgot to ad Robben is miserable little diver. No point to go on about it but I think the world of football would be a better place if divers got dealt with more harshly. There are too many around for my taste.
- Govinda Govinda Mar 12, 2014 11:35 Flag
Good result for confidence. Continue to believe we suffer from lack of pace and that this is part of the reason Ozil has trouble to impact games. You could see that the only guy with real pace, Ox, was our biggest threat.
Arteta but also Giroud and Podolski lack pace and good luck trying to pass your way through 6 well organized defenders. You need guys like Theo or Ox or other true speedsters to get behind defenders so that guys like Ozil can open up defenses with forward passes instead of sideways passes.
We were clearly better in the 2nd half IMO but I continue to wonder if Wenger doesn't play Flamini instead of Arteta because he wants to keep Flamini fit for the PL of because he does not see we are a better team with Flamini.
Nevlille wrote a decent "defense" of Ozil's problems and I agree with a lot of the article.
I feel semi good after the Bayern game, going into a stretch of difficult PL games.
You have to feel sorry for the lad that he picked up an other long term injury. In the short term I don't think this has to be all that bad for Arsenal sine it prevents Wenger playing Arteta and Wilshire at the same time, a combination I was not a great fan of and not only because of the lack of pace it introduced to our game.
I is possible this forces his hand to play Ox a little more often in the middle and Narby out wide. I think we do better with a little more pace in the squad and Ox has been playing with conviction.
Of course this thins our squad out even further but I don't think this injury, given Wilshire's indifferent form, will be as devastating to our season as Ramsey and Walcott's injuries have been.
And who knows maybe the new Swede, Kallstrom, will pleasantly surprise us, he is supposedly near ready to play.
There must be something in the water over here. There is no other reason I would continue to exchange with messages that have so very little content other than anger. Peace be with you brother.
It is your day today so I will throw you a bone:
irk: to make weary, irritated, or bored
So if you ask me why I would say that it irks (for you read: irritates) me Giroud and Wilshire go down so easily, it is not difficult to understand if you had the will to understand or the intention. In your case your intention is to look for things you can pretend to take exception with. But for your benefit the reason is because they go down too easily IMO.
I am sure I am blinded by biased with respect to Arsenal but I try to be objective, even if it is from time to time, and to me Giroud and Wilshire are like babies on the pitch. Talking about not knowing football. How do you explain going down as often as they do, crying for a whistle by the ref, but not getting it? They clearly have trouble figuring out the limits of each game. There is little purpose in falling down and not getting a whistle, taking for ever to get up, and leaving your teammates to recover the ball because you exited the game for a while.
But football is a very difficult game, maybe that is why Einstein did not write too much about it.
Are there two of you yet? Are you aware when you have split in two?
Part of me would take 4th. What is better a guaranteed 4th or a possible 3rd or 5th? All are still possible for Arsenal. 5th would not be unlike a kiss of death, it would likely result in Wenger not spending this summer.
I think it would help the PL teams in the CL and Europa league if they started to call the same game, ie the same fauls as in the rest of Europe. I think the physicality of the PL teams gets punished in the CL. You could see that even "tame" Arsenal were thrown of by the fouls called against them when we played Bayern.
Had the Stoke game been a CL game Stoke would have gotten a lot of yellow cards early on which would have forced them to play football. I think England might have the same problem in the WC.
Having said that the PL is what it is and it looks to be true that we don't like a physical game. That is why I missed Flamini, he might well have been a bit of an enforcer for us. It irks me seeing the likes of Wilshire and Giroud go down so easily.
Sanogo should get a chance but is clearly not the finished product. We should have at least one world class striker. This summer we need a nr 1 striker with Giroud and Sanogo as nr 2 and 3. Look at what City, Man U and Liverpool have upfront and you can be sure Chelsea will get there top striker this summer as well, making Torres nr2.
We desperately need as striker in the mold of RVP 2 years ago, Aguero, Suarez, Lewondowski, Costa, Dzeko etc. Giroud will never be that player, he simply does not have the talent or the physical attributes IMO.
You have the intelligence of a one celled amoeba. Clubs like Arsenal have 10's of millions of fans around the world, as do many big clubs, and only a very few can afford season tickets. The rest of us have to rely on TV or other media. I have been lucky to go to Arsenal games but far and few between because I can not afford to. Without the 10's of millions (or more) of Arsenal fans, and the same goes for all clubs, there would be no TV revenue and there would be no games for you to go watch. Not to mention the fact that even those who are rich enough and lucky enough to have season tickets can not all go see the road games like the one at Stoke.
Are you saying that fans who watch football games on TV can not have an opinion or see what is going on? You are truly a one celled amoeba albeit of enormous proportion. I honestly can not think of a single poster on this board with less apparent logic and inside in the game of football.
I like that little syndrome you named. And I have to agree with you that to some extend the players on the pitch should have been able to win but showed less interest in the game than Stoke. Compare that against the first half against Bayern and one wonders why we can't press, as a team, like we did against Bayern in every game.
You see Bayern do it in their lesser game and so did Barca. I remember Wilshire was calling for us to press high up and as a team in every game. I think he made those comments after the Sunderland game. They lads need to show some work ethic, The rest of this month is crucial, we need to take points of Chelsea and City and we need to beat Spurs.
As Wenger said, Liverpool look good with lots of rest between games.
This is probably not the time to debate what we don't have in our squad. We can reflect after the season. However one can take the view that it was clear this summer that we needed and finished product striker.
I am more concerned with finishing 4th as this would once again mean that top players won't want to come until they were sure we qualified for CL football. Finishing 3rd would be positive for not having to qualify and it would show improvement with respect to final position in the league. We can't keep finishing 4th even if we are closer to the top than before.
I don't really understand why we didn't bring in some speed earlier in the game? Arteta, Wilshire, Giroud and Pod non of these guys will worry defenders with their speed. Ox brought at least a little threat with his speed.
We pay the prize a little for not having signed a top quality striker in the last two windows.
Well done to Stoke. Not sure if we deserved much more than we got. We didn't have the individual talent today you need to create something out of nothing. As a result we really didn't create anything other than the Sanogo chance to equalize. But you get what you pay for and Sanogo is not the finished product.
We keep struggling without Flamini.
4th place here we come? I hope not.
Not sure if I share your optimism. They had some impressive results against City and Chelsea and are one of the teams we seem to struggle against. A win would be very welcome and confidence building IMO.